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 Post subject: hakomi chambers 13-21
PostPosted: Mon Jan 10, 2011 1:33 pm 
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Do anybody understand why not the latest Hakomi Chamber project is out on cd? I mean chambers 13-21. Mark seems to be too busy answering emails. In my experience, original cd quality is dramatically different from mp3s at 160kbit/s. Sure, it's directly available, but patience (shipping time) usually pays.


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 Post subject: Re: hakomi chambers 13-21
PostPosted: Tue Jan 11, 2011 12:12 pm 
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I don't have an answer for you but thank for sharing that they are available for download. I didn't know that. I only had 1-12


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 Post subject: Re: hakomi chambers 13-21
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I don't know if they are going to be released as a CD Loran ... haven't heard a thing, but I was glad that they showed up :D

the Hakomi project has a different focus than the Ancient Arrow collection ... maybe the last 11 tracts were more focused on "healing" at least that has been my experience with them ... and I really appreciate all the other track that have been added to the collection ... the Heart Songs are so potent.


anyway, someone requested that I "translate" what I could of these tracts and I thought that others might like to contribute what they hear - that may be the words of another language or something different than what I hear.

track 13
1;25 - That's beautiful !
We are all (perferating) ? Universe
Ahhhh00000hh
To feel that deep inside, abandon the tempting will and dwell in emptiness
I know how to do that
We think twice - is the elixir of freedom , absorb in the ultimate reality ... choice disappears, and all that exists is freedom
I know that
and everything that moves through us as an expression or an experience, is born from the heart of the Universe, in pure love
That's IT!


the only other words I know are Ommmm and Shanti (Peace)

tract 14 is all in a language that is foreign to me

tract 15
8:26 Listen, listen, l i s t e n , Secrets become visible when Love draws your soul to ITself

listen, listen, listen, Suffering, in its own design, heals in a symphony of merging particles

Listen, listen, listen, Open hearts court the void in silent suspense,

waiting - waiting - waiting at the threshold of the fifth sound (?), nestled in the warmth of fate's changing myths

Listen, listen, listen, Surrender to hear the message

tract 16 is all some language I don't know
tract 17 (dito)
tract 18 (dito)
tract 19 (dito)
tract 20 (dito)
tract 21 (dito)

it is funny, because when I was reviewing these, tract by tract, I was so sure there was a "message" in English in everyone of them ... I think I "got" the message anyway :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: hakomi chambers 13-21
PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:40 pm 
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Sorry I'm late on the scene again but only just discovered this message today about the hakomi chambers 13-21
here's a bit of input about the first track...

track 13
This one starts out with a beautiful Sanskrit mantra "The Gayatri Mantra"
Aum Bhuh Bhuvah Svah
Tat Savitur Varenyam
Bhargo Devasya Dheemahi
Dhiyo Yo nah Prachodayat
(this link has quite a good discussion about its inherant meaning http://hinduism.about.com/library/weekly/aa061003b.htm) Although we must remember that it is more important to feel the energy, heart and soul from where the mantra is emanating from... and also into which it is being received)
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1;25 - That's beautiful !
We are all pervading Universe
Ahhhh00000hh
To feel that deep inside, abandon the tempting will and dwell in emptiness
I know how to do that
We think choice - is the elixir for freedom , absorbed in the ultimate reality ... choice disappears, and all that exists, is freedom
I know that
then everything that moves through us in expression and experience, is born from the heart of the Universe, in pure love
That's IT!

The Gayatri Mantra also continues to be resounded again from 5:01 through to 9:01... it then continues again from 10:07 to 10:30 and then the track finishes with the resounding of Om Shanti

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 Post subject: Re: hakomi chambers 13-21
PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2011 6:49 pm 
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Found this today re: the Gayatri Mantra.

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The mantra, has a great scientific importance too, which somehow got lost in the literary tradition.The modern astrophysics and astronomy tell us that our Galaxy called MilkyWay or Akash-Ganga contains approximately 100,000 million of stars. Each star is like our sun having its own planet system. We know that the moon moves round the earth and the earth moves round the sun along with the moon. All planets move around the sun.


Each of the above bodies revolves round at its own axis as well. Our sun along with its family takes one round of the galactic centre in 22.5 crore (225 million) years. All galaxies including ours are moving away at a terrific velocity of 20,000 miles per second.

And now the alternative scientific meaning of the mantra step by step:

(A) Om bhur bhuvah swah:

Bhur the earth, bhuvah the planets (solar family), swah the Galaxy. We observe that when an ordinary fan with a speed of 900 RPM (Rotations Per Minute) moves, it makes noise. Then, one can imagine, what great noise would be created when the galaxies move with a speed of 20,000 miles per second.

This is what this portion of the mantra explains that the sound produced due to the fast-moving earth, planets and galaxies is Om. The sound was heard during meditation by Rishi Vishvamitra, who mentioned it to other colleagues. All of them, then unanimously decided to call this sound Om the name of God, because this sound is available in all
the three periods of time, hence it is set (permanent). Therefore, it was the first ever revolutionary idea to identify formless God with a specific title (form) called upadhi. Until that time, everybody recognized God as formless and nobody was prepared to accept this new idea. In the Gita also, it is said, “Omiti ekaksharam brahma”, meaning that the name of the Supreme is Om, which contains only one syllable (8/12). This sound Om heard during samadhi was called by all the seers nada-brahma a very great noise), but not a noise that is normally beyond a specific amplitude and limits of decibels suited to human hearing. Hence the rishis called this sound Udgith musical sound of the above, i.e., heaven.They also noticed that the infinite mass of galaxies moving with a velocity of 20,000 miles/second was generating a kinetic energy = ? MV2 and this was balancing the total energy consumption of the cosmos. Hence they named it Pranavah, which means the body (vapu) or store house of energy (prana).

(B) Tat savitur varenyam:

Tat that (God), savitur the sun (star), varenyam worthy of bowing or respect. Once the form of a person along with the name is known to us, we may locate the specific person. Hence the two titles (upadhi) provide the solid ground to identify the formless God, Vishvamitra suggested. He told us that we could know (realize) the unknowable formless God through the known factors, viz., sound Om and light of suns (stars). A mathematician can solve an equation x2+y2=4; if x=2; then y can be known and so on. An engineer can measure the width of a river even by standing at the river bank just by drawing a triangle. So was the scientific method suggested by Vishvamitra in the mantra in the next portion as under:-

(C) Bhargo devasya dheemahi:

Bhargo the light, devasya of the deity, dheemahi we should meditate. The rishi instructs us to meditate upon the available form (light of suns) to discover the formless Creator (God). Also he wants us to do japa of the word Om (this is understood in the Mantra). This is how the sage wants us to proceed, but there is a great problem to realise it,
as the human mind is so shaky and restless that without the grace of the Supreme (Brahma) it cannot be controlled. Hence Vishvamitra suggests the way to pray Him as under:

(D) Dhiyo yo nah prachodayat:

Dhiyo (intellect), yo (who), nah (we all), prachodayat (guide to right Direction). O God! Deploy our intellect on the right path.

Full scientific interpretation of the Mantra:

The earth (bhur), the planets (bhuvah), and the galaxies(swah) are moving at a very great velocity,the sound produced is Om, (the name of formless God.) That God (tat), who manifests Himself in the form of light of suns (savitur) is worthy of bowing/respect(varenyam). We all, therefore, should meditate (dheemahi) upon the light (bhargo) of that deity (devasya) and also do chanting of Om. ?May He (yo) guide in right direction (prachodayat) our (nah) intellect (dhiyo).

So we notice that the important points hinted in the mantra are:-

1) The total kinetic energy generated by the movement galaxies acts as an umbrella and balances the total energy consumption of the cosmos. Hence it was named as the Pranavah (body of energy). This is equal to ?

mv2 (2 means squared)
(Mass of galaxies x velocity2).

2) Realising the great importance of the syllable OM, the other later date religions adopted this word with a slight change in accent, viz., amen and Ameen.

3)The God could be realised through the saguna (gross), upasana (method), i.e.,

a) by chanting the name of the supreme as OM and
b) by meditating upon the light emitted by stars (suns)

~ from http://community.humanityhealing.net/profiles/blogs/scientific-meaning-behind

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 Post subject: Re: hakomi chambers 13-21
PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2011 4:21 pm 
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Le Voyage Dans la Lune by Georges Méliès (& Gaston) in 1902,
the first science fiction movie. And a man declared bankrupt,
as it had been stolen and openly featured everywhere.

Uploaded on Lyricus' Hakomi Project Chamber 13 music.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8rqf8KaW7Rc

Enjoy.

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 Post subject: Re: hakomi chambers 13-21
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Thank you so much for sharing that SF ... I have a very personal "testimony" related to these mantras ... they were sent to me, when I was at my lowest point suffering from Lyme's Disease ... The specialist had given up, none of the super antibiotics were working and I was stuck in a wheel chair ... everyone told me they couldn't do anymore ...and because I flat refused pain pills, I would just have to deal with it ... so I just quit fighting it ... and started taking "homopathic" vit ... and listening exclusively to these mantras ... which - whether one chooses to believe it is psychological or not ... healed me

I liken them to some of the work that Wm Reich did with frequencies ... He said that all bacteria /viruses (life forms) have a frequency and that you could rid your body of some of these, if you knew that frequency ... apparently the frequencies - tones, that Charlotte-Marie lends to these mantras are what activates the "words" that you have shared with us ...

can't say, which mantra, cause I listened to all of them, whenever the pain came on ... and within ninety days, there was no more pain ... which is not to say that it was a miricalous cure ... because there was some irreputable damage done to some of my joints ... but that all the "limeys" vacated the host, when I saturated them in the frequencies of these mantras ... these are the same mantras, that you can download for $.99 ea, in the Products section of the WM website ... that work - when 2 years and $50K worth of Super antibiotics (that came closer to killing me than the LD) failed to even phase those critters .

That was when I became totally focused on frequencies ... which I believe is what "it" is all about ... at the very core of existence is Sound and Light

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 Post subject: Re: hakomi chambers 13-21
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2011 10:18 pm 
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I have just come to the point of getting a better understanding in my heart for this set of music.

The beautiful energy they bring to the heart feels me with such joy.

James' ability to put together such wonderful experiences of music which goes to the heart before it goes to the mind is just amazing to me.

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 Post subject: Re: hakomi chambers 13-21
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yes, and the "Heart Music" (as I call it - four tracts for free) is the Hakomi Bonus - IMO ... I just couldn't get enough of them either (like Hakomi 3 and the Grand Portal) ... it is no exaggeration to say that I listened (on and off ) to the WMs music for five years ... the first three almost continuously 24/7 ... for months in a row . I didn't feel compelled to do that, nor "programed" either - I just preferred it to the "static" ... its frequencies, when you surround your self in them, it creates a noticeable - comfortable environment ... to me

IMO the Wingmakers' AA music, to getting my feet wet and learning how to swim ... the Hakomi music allowed me to access the deeper currents - breathe underwater, and introduced me to the Whale's song

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