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well, here is the kick in the teeth, from the finance guru himself...

By Graham Searjeant, Financial Editor



WALL STREET shuddered yesterday after Alan Greenspan, the United States’ central banker, warned American homebuyers that they risk a crash if they continue to drive property prices higher.
He said that the US house-price spiral had become an economic imbalance, threatening stability like the country’s trade gap or its budget deficit.



In a pre-retirement speech to fellow central bankers at Jackson Hole, Wyoming, Mr Greenspan said that people were investing in houses as if they were a one-way bet, not allowing for the risk of price falls. He said “history had not dealt kindly” with investors who kept ignoring risks.

The Federal Reserve Chairman’s warning, his strongest yet, sent share prices falling on Wall Street, at one point knocking 66 points off the Dow Jones industrial average. By the close the Dow had recovered to 10,397.30, down 53.30 points.

Traders said that Mr Greenspan’s comments were reminiscent of his 1996 inveighing against “irrational exuberance” on the stock market, for fear that a crash there would hit consumers and push the economy into recession. When the share price bubble finally burst, Mr Greenspan cut Federal interest rates to 1 per cent, triggering the flood of cheap loans for housing. He fears that rate increases set in train as the economy recovered could throw the housing market into reverse and suggested that the twin deficits would now restrict his room to manoeuvre if a house price downturn hit spending. Asset prices were, he complained, driving monetary policy more than ever before.

Share traders were also worried by an unexpectedly sharp fall in the University of Michigan consumer confidence index, a small but influential barometer, which fell for the first time in three months. The expectations index slid from 88.5 to 76.9.

Rob Carnell, of ING Bank in London, said that Mr Greenspan’s warning was an eerie reminder of a successful campaign last summer by Mervyn King, Governor of the Bank of England, to “use rhetoric rather than interest rates” to cool an overheating homes market. Britain has avoided a crash thus far.

On traditional tests, about a third of US local homes markets are now markedly overpriced. Over the past five years, the average US house price has risen by 50 per cent, half the rate of increase in UK prices in the five years to summer 2004. However, prices have risen more sharply in favoured areas, such as New York, and more than doubled in a few cities, such as San Diego.




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there are three types of risk we want to accept because we have opinions on them: stock-specific risk, industry risk and sector risk.
We want to squeeze out all of the other risk factors that we view as macro or top-down factors, such as currency, country, region, style, size and interest rate sensitivity.
We do that by shorting individual stocks in the same industry and hopefully country. We have a strategic interest in certain industries which we think can compound at high rates of return.

We have little interest in commodities, cyclicals, transportation, usually energy, any industry where the individual constituents of that industry or the industry itself has not been able to compound at high rates of return at any point in its history.


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We are a value shop and we are trying to buy great businesses that are mispriced, with high marginal cash flow generation, good management teams and large and increasing market share in a well-defended business. If we can find companies that can compound at 12% to 15% a year and buy them 10% cheap, we can get 15% plus returns on our long portfolio. On the short side, I am interested in shorting stocks after they have said they have a problem, and we are looking for companies with bad business plans, accounting or management.


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When interest rates fall, state and local governments often seek to reduce their borrowing costs by paying off outstanding bonds through the issuance of new bonds paying lower interest rates. When the old bonds cannot be paid off until a future call date, the municipality can still obtain a benefit from lower interest rates through an advance refunding. An advance refunding can lock in current interest rates and ensure that the municipality will realize debt service savings over the life of the new bonds.


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Now, so as a market participant I don't need to give way to moral considerations. That is one of the things that makes markets so efficient. However, as a society we can't live without moral considerations. In other words, we do have to protect the public good.

And markets are not designed to do that, so we need a political process. A political process is much less efficient than market, but we absolutely need it and this false theory has led to the idea that we don't we need to have any government intervention.

And so there is a presumption that the markets actually are moral, and that is a false assumption. And if you leave it to the market a lot of things can go wrong and we now find out, for instance, with the excesses that the corporate executives took advantage of their companies and so on.
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Soros could certainly extend this trail of thought to touch the aspect of political corruption. Because eventually when profit in the market is all that one cares (and we're talking about big players) then he will try to make sure he has everything in place that will assist to this direction. Let's say use money, fund or bribe politicians and then their influence will be used as a leverage to push the desired company in a more favorable position by getting preferential contracts and things like that. And by doing so, the company's shares go up.

This is a very common phenomenon so I wonder why exactly he has simplified his view so much as to say that there need to be political process/government intervention - when ultimately these very people who he calls to control the situation, are in turn most likely controlled by corporate interests.

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[b]"I think we have some very serious defects in the global financial system. Actually that system has really broken down, only we haven't realized it."[/b]

“The planners of the Incunabula believe that by consolidating control of the oil supply and its distribution it is the best way to impose rationing at a global level without setting off Armageddon.”


Dr. Neruda: “There are serious flaws within the global economy, and the United States will, within the next seven years, begin to express these flaws in ways that ripple through the globe and cause financial unrest. The best way to ensure that these flaws are controlled is to tighten corporate loopholes that allow greedy executives to exploit their shareholders, and to seize control over the price of oil.”

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just another country that has gone from bad to worse, with the infulence of the almighty dollar...

If we were all paid the same wage...perhaps people would work at a job where they either would "learn" something...or DO what they felt "inspired" to do...instead of working at a job they hate and do poorly...because it pays well.

when you consider a-morality is one of the "perks" of the wealthy and that they live "above the law" of comon decency... while taking advantage of those that do...I have little respect for them or their wealth and power...

to me it is simple... cut off their heads...quit feeding them and quit working for them...and the system that supports them...

stop (or at least limit) watching TV, buying newspapers, going to the movies, and professional "games", buying clothes from the sweat shops, gas from the OPEC...and GM food and paying taxes (with barter)... become self sufficient...create your own job...and use OLIN to sell it.

there will always be enough "sheeple" to slave away for "them" stuck in the black hole of hierarchy and dependant upon kissing their self made "saviors" fat asses...but I don't choose to be one of them (a long time ago).

My dad says that I don't "contribute" anything to the "system"... well I don't diminish it either... by being comfortable and happy- I have that to share.:)

"Reuben, Reuben, I've been thinking,
what a grand world it would be.
If the Pigs were all transported,
far below the ole Dead Sea... "

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amazing...12% flat tax...and in a matter of less than ten years...they are now offering aide to the US (katrina relief)... mind boggeling...

The deeply in debt Mormon Church did the exact same thing...with a 10% "tithe"... at the turn of the 20th centruy...and even though only 1/3 of the members voluntarily pay a "full-tithe" the church, not only came out of debt but is perhaps the richest (percentage wise) in the world.

I am sure that you also heard the "rummor' that the "colapse of Russia" was a "staged" event and a "secret part" of the Communist agenda...to appear "weak" while redoubling their (inner) stregnth from the "contributions" of others ... with similar interests...

also interesting to note, that the last tzar of Russia, looked enough like his cousin...the king of England to be mistaken for twins...

jeeze...makes you wonder what hasn't been "rewritten" about "history"

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Greetings Roberto...
This just in....


Government Intervention in Stock Market is Detailed by New Report, GATA Says
Tuesday September 6, 8:30 am ET


MANCHESTER, Conn.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sept. 6, 2005--A major Canadian financial management firm that a year ago published a compilation of evidence of central bank manipulation of the gold price has just done the same in regard to the U.S. stock market and has reached a similar conclusion.
The new report is titled "Move Over, Adam Smith: The Visible Hand of Uncle Sam," and has been published by Sprott Asset Management of Toronto. It was written by the firm's president, John P. Embry, and his assistant, Andrew Hepburn, and concludes that the U.S. government has intervened to support the stock market so many times that "what apparently started as a stopgap measure may have morphed into a serious moral hazard situation, with market manipulation an endemic feature of the U.S. stock market."

The new report relies largely on reports of news organizations and the essays and research papers of economics academics that, as might be expected, have not been well-publicized in the United States. But some of these reports have been circulated by the Gold Anti-Trust Action Committee over the years.

The Sprott report does not maintain that the government should never intervene in the stock market; it recognizes that certain emergencies may argue strongly for temporary intervention, such as the 1987 stock market crash and the terrorist attacks of September 2001. But, the Sprott report notes, frequent surreptitious intervention, conducted through intermediaries, the government's favored financial houses in New York, gives those intermediaries enormous advantages over ordinary investors. Frequent intervention, the Sprott report adds also makes it impossible to distinguish between national emergencies and political expediency.

The Sprott report concludes:

"Given the available information, we do not believe there can be any doubt that the U.S. government has intervened to support the stock market. Too much credible information exists to deny this. Yet virtually no one ever mentions government intervention publicly, preferring instead to pretend as if such activities have never taken place and never would.

"It is time that market participants, the media and, most of all, the government acknowledge what should be blatantly obvious to anyone who reviews the public record on the matter: These markets have been interfered with on numerous occasions. Our primary concern is that what apparently started as a stopgap measure may have morphed into a serious moral hazard situation, with market manipulation an endemic feature of the U.S. stock market.

"We have not taken a position on the wisdom of intervention in this paper, largely because exceptional circumstances could argue for it. In many respects, for instance, the apparent rescue after the 1987 crash and the planned intervention in the wake of September 11 were very defensible. Administered in extremely small doses and with the most stringent safeguards and transparency, market stabilization could be justified.

"But a policy enacted in secret and knowingly withheld from the body politic has created a huge disconnect between those knowledgeable about such activities and the majority of the public, who have no clue whatsoever.

"There can be no doubt that the firms responsible for implementing government interventions enjoy an enviable position unavailable to other investors. Whether they have been indemnified against potential losses or simply made privy to non-public government policy, the major Wall Street firms evidently responsible for preventing plunges no longer must compete on anywhere near a level playing field. It is most unfair that the immensely powerful have been further ensconced in their perched positions and thus effectively insulated from the competitive market forces ostensibly present in our society.

"In addition to creating a privileged class, the manipulation also has little democratic legitimacy in the sense that the citizenry has not given its consent. This has tangible ramifications. By not informing the public, successive U.S. administrations have employed a dangerous policy response that is subject to the worst possible abuse. In this regard, the line between national necessity and political expediency has no doubt been perilously blurred.

"We can only urge people to see what the evidence indicates and debate what is and ought to be a very contentious matter. The time for such a public discussion is long overdue."

The Sprott report can be found in Adobe Acrobat format at the Sprott Internet site here: http://www.sprott.com/pdf/pressrelease/ ... leHand.pdf

It also can be found at the GATA Internet site here: http://www.gata.org/SprottReportTheVisibleHand.pdf



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Also...this piece is interesting...hhhmmmmm!!!

THE BELL TOLLS FOR THE DOLLAR

Alf Field

The bell tolls for the US Dollar because it is doomed. Like the Dodo bird, the US Dollar will, within the foreseeable future, disappear into the history books in the chapter on "Extinct Species".

This will be an event of profound importance that will impact every being on the planet. It will impact all corporations and businesses around the world. It is not too far fetched to say that it will be the most important investment variable in the years ahead. It will transcend fundamental and technical analysis. Such analyses require a firm measuring device, but that measuring device will be destroyed.

It is vital for our mental, physical and financial health that we all understand what is happening and why. I am only the messenger, so please be kind to me. I just call the shots as I see them, so let me explain my reasons in more detail.

Let's start with the following recent posting from Richard Russell's Dow Theory Letters web site:

August 23, 2005 -- The American Institute for Economic Research out of Great Barrington, Mass. 01230, publishes an index for the dollar along with the dollar's purchasing power. Every time I look at this index it makes me angry. Why? Here's why. When I left the Army Air Force in 1945 the Institute's dollar index stood at 100. In other words, a dollar bought a dollar's worth of goods.

By 1960 the index was down to the point where the 1945 dollars that I'd been saving bought only 61.1 cents worth of goods. The erosion continued. By the time that Alan Greenspan took over the Fed in 1983, the index bought only 18.0 cents worth of goods. By 2003 the index bought only 9.9 cents worth of goods. I don't have the latest figure for 2005, but let me put it this way -- the dollar that the Army Air Force paid me in 1945 will now, here in 2005, buy me less than a dime's worth of goods.

So thanks, Federal Reserve. Thanks Alan. Since my youth when I was 22, I've seen the buying power of the dollar collapse over 90 percent. You see, the dang irony of the thing is that we hear our government talk about only 2 percent inflation today -- but they don't dare talk about what's happened to the dollar over five, ten, twenty, forty years. They don't dare even whisper it because it would sound God-awful. It would tell the American people that not only are they being taxed by their government, but they are being viciously taxed again by Fed-created inflation. - Richard Russell, Dow Theory Letters.

Richard Russell is indignant about the destruction of the purchasing power of the US Dollar, but why is there not a general outcry against what is happening?

There appear to be two main reasons, these being:

The decline in purchasing power of the US$ has been fairly slow and people have been able to adjust to it;
There has been deliberate deception, distortion and dis-information of the items that would alert people to problems in this area.
The trend toward loss of purchasing power of the US Dollar over the past 30 odd years has been very gradual and people have adjusted to the annual changes. People seem to have the ability to absorb and adjust to small, gradual changes in their lives but react poorly to dramatic changes.

We all have the problem of earning our daily bread, of simply managing our day to day lives. Earning a dollar has been more important than worrying about the fact that the dollar was gradually losing purchasing power. We simply adjusted to it. Our salaries and wages were increased or we found ways of increasing our capital by taking advantage of the declining purchasing power of the currency.

There is an experiment that I cannot vouch for (I have never tried it) that involves dropping a frog into a pot of boiling water. The frog apparently will leap out of the boiling water. If the frog is dropped into a pot of cold water it will happily stay there while the water is heated very gradually until the frog is boiled to death. The frog simply adjusts to the gradual temperature change until it is comatose.

I have been able to conduct a different experiment which proves that we humans are no different. We react violently to dramatic change but we do have the ability to adjust to gradual change. I tried the following experiment on a German autobahn where there was no speed limit. I was driving at a safe speed of about 70 mph when I suddenly speeded up to 100mph. The reaction from my wife was instantaneous: "Slow down, you're going too fast!" I dropped the speed back to 70mph and after a while started to very gradually increase the speed until I was doing 110mph - this time without getting a reaction. My wife had adjusted to the gradual speed increases.

The items that are included under the "deliberate deception, distortion and dis-information" reason include the official price indices, the gold price and the exchange value of the dollar. These manipulations have all been dealt with extensively elsewhere and I don't propose to spend much time on this issue. The disinformation will continue for a while but once we enter the period of rapid change, the deception will be obvious to everyone.

So we have adjusted to the gradual loss of purchasing power of the US Dollar over the last 30 years, but why should it not take another 30 years to lose a further 90% of its current purchasing power? Why should things not continue as before?

The answer is that the problems that have been building up in the US economy over the past many decades have been brought to the point where they are approaching crisis level. The expectation is that the creation of new US dollars to meet these crises will accelerate very rapidly. We will have entered the period of rapid change, when the depreciation in the purchasing power of the US$ will become exponential, and the changes will be so rapid that people WILL react to this.

The problems facing the US economy all seem to start with the letter "D". They are:

DEBT,
DEFICITS (both Balance of Payments deficit and Federal Budget deficit), the DOLLAR itself,
DEVALUATIONS (competitive depreciation of foreign currencies to protect their export industries),
DEMOGRAPHICS (Baby Boomers reaching retirement age, under funding of pension funds, social security etc),
DERIVATIVES (possibly the largest problem with the biggest numbers,
DEFLATION (which will cause the budget deficit to mushroom) and
DWELLINGS (as in Real Estate boom).

These problems have been dealt with exhaustively elsewhere, so I will not comment further. Suffice to say that the financial stresses that they will give rise to will be "solved" by "throwing money at the problems" by resorting to the electronic money creation process. The size of these problems guarantees that the creation of new US$ will rapidly accelerate, causing the decline in purchasing power to become exponential.

It is not a question of IF the dollar is doomed but rather WHEN sufficient people understand what is happening and panic out of their US Dollars. In my opinion, this should be within 10 years and possibly within 5 years, maybe much sooner.

The following is from a recent article by Robert Kirby:

Murray Rothbard, the brilliant student of Mises, explained the genesis of the boom. "Why do booms, historically, continue for several years? The answer is that as the boom begins to peter out from an injection of credit expansion, the banks inject a further dose. In short, the only way to avert the onset of the depression is to continue inflating money and credit. For only continual doses of new money on the credit market will keep the boom going and the new stages profitable. Furthermore, only ever increasing doses can step up the boom, can lower interest rates further, and expand the production structure, for as the prices rise, more and more money will be needed to perform the same amount of work. Once the credit expansion stops, the market ratios are re-established, and the seemingly glorious new investments turn out to be malinvestments, built on a foundation of sand.

"It is clear that prolonging the boom by ever larger doses of credit expansion will have only one result: to make the inevitably ensuing depression longer and more gruelling."

Mises continues, "It is true, the banks (or the governments) are in a position to prolong the boom for some time by injecting progressively increasing quantities of bank notes and deposits into the market. But the artificially created prosperity cannot last forever. Sooner or later it must come to an end. There are only two alternatives: 1. The banks do not stop and go on expanding credit at a progressively accelerated pace. But the spell of inflation breaks once the public has the conviction that the banks and the authorities are resolved not to stop. If no limit of the inflation and, consequently, of the general rise of prices can be foreseen, a general flight into real values starts. Everybody becomes aware of the fact that to hold cash and deposit balances with the banks involves loss, and that he does better to buy and store goods. Everybody is anxious to get rid of money and to exchange it for some other commodities, no matter how much he must pay for them. Prices are running away, and the purchasing power of the monetary unit drops to zero. The national currency system cracks up. 2. As a rule, the banks do not let things go so far. They stop sooner by restricting credit. Then the day of reckoning dawns. The illusions disappear, people begin again to see reality as it is. The blunders committed in the boom become visible."

The fact is that IT IS TOO LATE FOR OPTION 2.

We have been told in no uncertain terms by Federal Reserve Governors that there will be no deflation. Whatever funds are needed to avoid deflation will be made available. The electronic printing press will be resorted to.

That simply means that the US Dollar is doomed to extinction.

The bell is tolling for the US Dollar but the bell is also tolling for us. We need to make some important investment decisions in the months and years ahead.

Gold is the only commodity that has always been produced for ACCUMULATION and not for CONSUMPTION. Silver used to be in the same category, but has recently become more of an industrial metal.

The reason that gold has been accumulated over the millennia is because IT RETAINS ITS PURCHASING POWER OVER TIME. It is a haven where wealth can be stored during times when existing Government money is being rapidly debased and losing its purchasing power - exactly the situation we are facing over the next few years.

Currently the price of gold is at bargain basement levels. Not only has the price been manipulated downwards, but investors have to re-learn the benefits of holding gold. This they will do rapidly as the events relating to the US Dollar become obvious to everyone. We need to acquire some additional gold holdings while the bargain prices remain. I suspect that, like all bargains, this situation will not last much longer.



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CONVERSATIONS WITH SPECIFIC Q-MEN

I have personally met and had an opportunity to converse with several Q-Men and here I will say what I learned from them.

The first Q-Man I met was assigned to Tulane University in New Orleans. Our conversations took place in the mid-sixties. He was interested in space travel. He stated that the US Government had developed the technology necessary to construct a starship similar to the "Star Trek" idea. The problem, he stated, was financing. Congress saw no use for a starship to go off exploring what would most likely be empty space. They wanted to spend money on other things more practical. Also, since the knowledge of how to make a ship and the ship itself would always be Top Secret and not revealed to the American people, the funding, which was described as "massive" would have to be hidden in the budget some kind of way. He indicated that the estimated cost was extremely high.

The next Q-Man I met, later in the sixties, was assigned to the Federal Office of Police [FOP]. He was older and probably was working here as sort of a "retirement job" from whatever his original work had been. He was kind of silly and perhaps a bit senile.

I said, "Heard any good secrets lately ?". We were just having an idle conversation. I think he may have thought that I was a young Q-Man too. He said, "All the money in the world passes through Washington, D.C. - remember that !" And, I did.

The next and last Q-Man that I am going to talk about was very open. He said his "Q" number was "273". This meeting was very late in the sixties. We talked quite a bit about lots of things. He knew all about the UFO's that had landed or crash-landed here. I was discussing with him more esoteric things that he apparently did not know. In our last meeting, he thanked me and said that he had been notified that his rank had now been elevated from "Q-273" to "Q-10".

In closing, let me just briefly explain the rating system. The number of Q-Men is artificially kept right around 10,000. So, if you join up your rating or number would be Q-10,000. Throughout your life-career as an agent, your rank is advanced, based upon intellectual sophistication. To reach the rank of 273 [out of 10,000] is a significant movement. And, to go from 273 to 10 in a couple of days is VERY significant. The only new event in this man's life during those few days was the conversations we had; and so I have wondered about this because I am obviously not a Q-Man and I do not consider myself to be anything special.



mega projects
http://www.tfhrc.gov/pubrds/04jul/01.htm
http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/publicaccess/1095rail.html
http://www.spectrum.ieee.org/publicaccess/1095twin.html
http://www.worldchanging.com/archives/001523.html
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Megaprojects (sometimes also spelled "mega projects") are very large investment projects. The US Federal Highway Administration defines megaprojects as major infrastructure projects that cost more than US$1 billion, or projects of a significant cost that attract a high level of public attention or political interest because of substantial direct and indirect impacts on the community, environment, and budgets. Some megaprojects, like Boston's Big Dig at $15 billion or the Channel tunnel between France and the UK at $10 billion, cost several times this minimum definition of a megaproject. Other projects that cost less than $1 billion are sometimes also called megaprojects; it depends on the context, because a, say, $500 million project in a medium-sized town may be considered "mega," wheras this would not necessarily be the case for a similar-sized project in a major world city.


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'PHYSICAL' RELIGION vs. ' SPIRITUAL ' RELIGION

World leaders and their inner circle of followers can be said to practice a form of religion. However this religion, which we will call "Physical Religion" for want of a better title, is
essentially 180 degree opposite of "Spiritual Religion".

In Spiritual Religion, the Soul is seen as primary and the body as secondary. The body is viewed as a temporary tool of the Soul as it gains experiences which will eventually allow it to evolve to a higher and non-physical state.

In the Physical Religion of world leaders and controllers, however, the physical body is considered primary and the Soul - if it is acknowledged at all - is seen as just some
component necessary to keep physical bodies going.

While leaders of Spiritual Religions debate the correct procedure for bringing the Soul to complete fulfillment, the leaders of the Physical Religion have essentially completed their research in their quest to make their physical existence permanent. They have broken the genetic code, solved the problem of disease and perfected effective methods for obtaining new physical bodies when the ones they are using cannot be kept going any more. Their continued existence as physical beings for "eternity" has been established.

Consequently, the concept of God or higher "realities" is merely academic to them because they have no intention or inclination to leave this physical reality which they totally control.

In Physical Religion, the "masters of technology" see themselves as gods. They create and maintain a reality to suit their fancy and control all other living creatures. They exercise the power of life or death over their subjects. They live with every conceivable luxury and have all of their desires fulfilled. What more could a god want.


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could be myth

could be creative fiction

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THE US ECONOMIC MATRIX

INTRODUCTION

We wish now to take up and discuss the US Economic Matrix. Basically, the United States is a "corporate state" composed of public "outer corporations" which are controlled by less public corporations - which are finally controlled by "THE COMPANY" [the CIA].

BASIC OPERATION

Anyone can start a company. If it is small and the product or service it provides is meaningless or mundane, no one really cares about it. However, all large corporations are under direct Government control. A "Q-Man" is positioned at a strategic point in the companies' organization so that it is not possible for that company to do anything that the Government does not want.

Also, all labor unions are secretly operated by men from "THE COMPANY." It was publicly exposed during the Seventies, during the period when the US Government was in a state of slight de-stabilization, that George Meany of the AFL-CIO was a CIA Agent.

The basic system is designed to present to the naive public the impression that "free enterprise" is taking place and that corporations are independently operating institutions. The linkage system that connects the publicly operating "private corporations" to the "COMPANY" is, of course, one of the "Top Secrets" of the United States.

The political sector is a similar design. The impression is presented that everyone is free and has freely elected their regulating officials and that the people are in control of the Government. In reality, of course, officials to be elected are Preselected in secret and the Government controlled press then "programs" the masses to vote them in by convincing them that they are the only logical choice.

THE NEXT LEVEL UP

So, the Government of the United States is the legal owner of its 50 States and assorted territories. And, because you are trapped in its economic matrix and need money to exist, it is the owner of you as well.

But, the US Government is in debt - deeply in debt. And the people to whom it owes the "National Debt" are the real owners of the United States and, therefore, the owners of the 50 states and assorted territories and of the citizens of these.

So, who owns you ? Well, here is the list. They are called "international bankers" and they own the United States and all its politicians and the President and every citizen of the United States.

They own you because you have accepted the philosophy of "Dialectical Materialism" and you express everything in terms of money. They control the money and so therefore they control you.

The owners of the United States are:

1. Rothschild & Morgan

2. Barring

3. Hambros

4. Lazard

5. Erlanger

6. Warburg

7. Schroder

8. Selingamn

9. The Speyers

10. Mirabauld

11. Mallet

12. Fould

Every year the Government pays [only] the interest on its national debt. That payment is 20 Billion Dollars. And, it is split up among the twelve people above. A nice salary, to say the least.

This group of people who are not elected by anyone can, by virtue of the fact that they essentially "hold the mortgage on the United States," order the US Government to do anything they want and it must obey them. It must obey regardless of any US Law or the Constitution for the United States because naked ownership supersedes and overrides all Law and Constitutional authority.

So, that's the story. Incidentally, these twelve men consider the citizens of the United States to be their private "herd of cattle" to be used as they please and to be disposed of as needed.


fiction ... ? fact based myth ... ?




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Bilderberg from 1982 onwards (Canada)

MacDonald, Donald S, Senior Partner, McCarthy & McCarthy; ex-Fin. Minister
Black, Conrad M, Chairman, The Telegraph plc.
Kravis (nee Drouin), Marie-Josée - Senior Fellow, Hudson Inst. Inc. (& US)
Griffin, Anthony GS, Company Director (Guardian Group)
Klein, Ralph, Premier of Alberta
Asper, Israel; Chairman, CanWest Capital Group Inc
Axworthy, Lloyd, Minister for Foreign Affairs
Bassett, Isabel, Parl. Asst. Finance Minister, Ontario
Chastelain, John A.D. de - Chair, Indep. Intl. Commission on Decommissioning (N Irl)
Chipman, John, Director, International Institute for Strategic Studies (invited) (IN)
Chretien, Jean, Prime Minister
Chretien, Raymond A.J. - Ambassador to the U.S.
Cohen, Marshall A, President, Olympia & York Enterprises Ltd
Courtis, Kenneth S. - First Vice President, Research Dept., Deutsche Bank Asia Pacific (IN)
Cross, Devon, Head Donner Canadian Foundation
Delorme, Jean-Claude, Chairman of Caisse de Dépôt et Placement du Quibec
Dion, Stephane - Queens Privy Council for Canada and Minister of Intergov. Affairs
Eaton, Fredrik S., Chairman, Executive Committee, Eaton's of Canada
Flood, A.L., Chairman, Canadian Imperial Bank of Commerce
Fréchette, Louise; Deputy Secretary-General, United Nations (IN)
Frum, David, Columnist, National Post Newspaper
Godsoe, Peter C. - Chairman and CEO, Bank of Nova Scotia
Gotlieb, Allan E., Former Ambassador to the United States of America
Harris, Michael, Premier of Ontario
Herrndorf, Peter A. - ex-Chair & CEO, TV Ontario; Snr Visiting Fellow, Univ. of Toronto
Johnston, Donald J. Secretary-General, OECD. (IN)
MacLaren, Roy - High Commissioner for Canada in Britain; former Finance Minister
MacMillan, Margaret - Ed. International. Journal, Can. Inst. of Intl. Affs, Univ. Toronto
McDougall, Barbara, Secretary of State for External Affairs
McKenna, Frank, Premier of New Brunswick
Manning, Preston - Leader of the Reform Party
Martin, Paul, Minister of Finance
Munroe-Blum, Heather. VP, Research and International Relations, University of Toronto
Mustard, J. Frase, President Canadian Institute for Avanced Research
Ostry, Sylvia, Chairman, Centre for International Studies, University of Toronto
Pattison, James, Chair, President & CEO, Jim Pattison Group Inc.
Polanyi, John, Prof of Chemistry, University of Toronto
Pritchard, J Robert, Pres, Univ. of Toronto
Reuber, Grant L, Deputy Chairman, Bank of Montreal
Rogers, Edward S., President and CEO, Rogers
Communications, Inc.
Sabia, Maureen. Corporate Director and President, Maureen Sabia International.
Simpson, Jeffrey, National Affairs Columnist, The Globe & Mail
Smith, Gordon S, Perm Rep and Ambass., Canadian Deleg. to the North Atlantic Council
Spector, Norman, former Chief of Staff, Office of the Prime Minister
Thorsell, William, Editor, The Globe and Mail
White, Peter G, Chairman of Unimedia; Former head of Prime Minister's Office
Wilson, L.R., Chairman, President and CEO, BCE Inc.
Wilson, Michael, Minister of Industry, Science & Technology & International Trade




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Ways to Remove Fluoride from Water

Reverse Osmosis Filtration
This is used to purify several types of bottled water (not all), so some bottled waters are unfluoridated. Reverse osmosis systems are generally unaffordable for personal use.

Activated Alumina Defluoridation Filter
These filters are used in locales where fluorosis is prevalent. They are relatively expensive (lowest price I saw was $30/filter) and require frequent replacement, but do offer an option for home water filtration.

Distillation Filtration
There are commercially available distillation filters that can be purchased to remove fluoride from water. On a related note: When looking at bottled water, keep in mind that 'distilled water' does not imply that a product is suitable for drinking water and other undesirable impurities may be present.

These Do NOT Remove Fluoride
Brita, Pur, and most other filters.

Some websites about fluoride removal state otherwise, but I checked the product descriptions on the companies' websites to confirm that fluoride is left in the water.

Boiling Water
This will concentrate the fluoride rather than reduce it.

Freezing Water
Freezing water does not affect the concentration of fluoride.

Steps to Reduce Fluoride Exposure

Don't take fluoride supplements.

Read labels on bottled beverages.
Unless they are made using distilled or reverse-osmosis water, they are probably made with fluoridated public water.

Consider using unfluoridated toothpaste.

Avoid drinking black or red tea.
They come from two different types of plants, but both leaves naturally contain high amounts of fluorine.

Be wary of tinned fish and canned food items.
Fluoride may be used as a preservative.

Avoid black or red rock salt or items containing black or red rock salt.

Avoid long term use of medication that contains fluorine.
Certain antidepressants and medications for osteoporosis contain fluorine. link


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thanks for putting all this together... just too many "co incidences" to be anything other than the Incunebula... now you see them, now you don't ... I find it amusing that Dub has to "hang around"... and sneak into these affairs... and where is Daddy and Billy... oh yes... gathering money.
Who knows, they might even be able to aford a seat in the balcony.

somehow...I believe the internet has done a great job of exposing these guys...and they have changed their tune since '97 (the year of the interviews) and the heat is on...and their race to save their own butts has become a priority... they have turned viscious...as James said..."evil" with no where to run and no where to hide, they are cornered with a "shift" happening on all levels of existance...it's a mad scramble ...now or never.

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