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[quote]Bronnikov
Denisov
Zolotov
The Making of the
Russian Superbeing

by Kostya Kovalenko




One day, Boris Zolotov and several persons from his team were riding in a car with the Commander-in-Chief of the Russian Black Sea Fleet. They were discussing the attempts of an American and a Russian scientist to determine, using a high-tech device, which of the Russian battleships were carrying nuclear weapons and which were not.

A woman on Zolotov's team offered the observation that one does not need such a device to determine something of this nature. Moreover, she said, she could prove it!

So they drove to the Russian naval base, where this woman was able to describe to the Admiral not only which ships had nuclear weapons, but their type and quantity.

It is reported that this Russian Admiral went into a drinking bout that lasted several days, in his frustration that he — a high-ranking Navy officer — had not been informed by his country's government that such things were possible.


Bronnikov: Teaching Blind Children to ''See''
In two previous articles, I have discussed the work of Viacheslav Bronnikov, a man from Feodosia, Ukraine, who teaches blind children to ''see.''[1] In this article, I will present to you the work of two other Russians — Nikolay Nikolayevich ''Nik-Nik'' Denisov, and Boris Zolotov — who are doing the same kind of work. Both of these men are quite different from Bronnikov and from each other — not only in their methods, but in their philosophical emphasis and their personal motivations.

First, before going on to discuss Denisov and Zolotov, I would like to say that — despite Bronnikov's great results, as reported in my previous articles — there are some limitations worth considering when we evaluate the man and his methods.

First of all, Bronnikov has been criticized by some for his disinterest in spirituality — his ''mechanical'' approach. (This criticism is much less applicable to Denisov, and not at all to Zolotov, for whom spirituality is a key aspect of his work.)

Secondly, Bronnikov's ''biocomputer'' model apparently can become so obsessive that a person needs to turn this imaginary device off for the night, and must not forget to turn it back on in the morning. This seems like an unnecessary limitation, since of course there is no real ''biocomputer'' in our heads — only formerly ignored neurons that, when activated, reflect the world around us in new ways.

Thirdly, it is said that the Bronnikov Method for the most part only reaches children. Even Bronnikov's instructors, although they can teach alternative vision, reportedly do not possess this faculty themselves. Both Denisov's and Zolotov's teachers possess alternative perception abilities.

Finally, on the medical side it is claimed by some that in the human sight center there is only so much energy, and that in using the Bronnikov Method of alternative vision, one's normal eyesight will worsen. Alternative vision, critics say, is thus a good option for blind people but not for the normally sighted. (Denisov has also found difficulties with this ''energy barrier.'' Zolotov, as you will see, neither believes in nor encounters an energy barrier in the use of superpsychic abilities.)

Denisov: A Trainer
Nikolay DenisovIn my view, Nikolay Nikolayevich ''Nik-Nik'' Denisov has gone farther than Bronnikov. Denisov's students learn to do the same things that Bronnikov students do — alternative vision, and so on — but Denisov's reason for learning and teaching it are very different. If Bronnikov seems interested in using ''superhuman'' skills to perform better in society, Denisov wants to use them in order to free himself and others from society's limitations.

Before devoting full time to study and teach alternative perception, Nikolay Denisov studied at the Moscow Energy Institute and the all-USSR Foreign Trade Academy. In 1972 he began researching human evolutionary development and won recognition for his work in the area of information access technologies.

Today, his priority is to teach as many people as possible to use alternative data-access channels, both in their private lives and in their jobs. He believes that the use of these abilities will heighten human adaptability to our changing lifestyles, and also will initiate or enhance people's artistic and spiritual development. In this connection, he developed the ''Golden Ray'' program, a method that allows people to broaden their perceptual limits by a factor of several hundred. More than 10,000 people from a few score Russian and ex-USSR cities have taken the Golden Ray program, and it has received wide coverage in both newspapers and TV.

Predicting the Future

Although he is striving for 100 percent accuracy, Denisov has already achieved results that seem remarkable. He can predict the future with 70 to 80 percent probability. And that's enough for one of his students, psychologist Dr. Boris Boyar, whose Academy of Game Technologies teaches students to win at gambling casinos by ''seeing'' dealers' cards and influencing the roulette ball. Also, casino personnel can learn to psychically prevent players from winning, and businesspeople are taught how to influence others and arrive at optimum decisions.

Scientific confirmation

Moscow Psychiatry Institute researched the work being done by Denisov and his students — specifically brain activity when a person is using alternative vision or during telepathic communication. The scientists found specific areas of the brain that were apparently responsible for the processing of extrasensory information. Denisov says that he is using the research results to make the learning in his school ''more conscious, more directed, more accurate, and faster — and not for children only but also for adults.''

''All the instructors in my school,'' Denisov asserts, ''can read blindfolded. This is why they can provide the students with both theoretical and practical help.''

Economic work in the USSR

Nikolay Denisov is a very practical person. He used to work as a negotiator for Soviet foreign trade institution Vneshtorg, and enjoyed the privilege — very rare in the USSR — of traveling abroad once every two months to negotiate building contracts.

''Others considered me a man that had everything one can dream of,'' he writes. ''But I was bored!'' He saw that his position made him part of a social machine, and decided to get out of this predictable routine and look for something new, unusual, and unknown.

Denisov met Boris Zolotov early on, during his university student years. ''Boris and I are friends back from the Institute,'' he says. ''He was the first to show me that a man possesses many abilities unknown to science. It's because of him that I began my learning of this vast and interesting world of extrasensory perception. Now I am doing my own research. I have a school of my own — my own methods and personal approach to the world. But our friendship is something very big. It's a mutual understanding and respect between two men that transcends the usual.''

In his own research, being as I have said a very practical person, Denisov takes nothing for granted. He believes in nothing that cannot be proved. For this reason he is skeptical of channeling and of otherworldly ''Teachers,'' claiming that sources of this nature do not serve his needs. Instead, Denisov develops his techniques from working closely with people who actually possess the unusual abilities he seeks to learn. In this way, he acquires understanding of the phenomena and develops methods of teaching this to others.

Denisov's Seminars

Denisov first used 14-day seminars, but decided to make them shorter because his students wanted faster results. Now, he aims for his students to have their first results in only five days.

His seminars usually take place at night in a big hall, where students go through a series of exercises and one-to-one interactions. Night time is chosen, not only because some of the students work during the day, but also because the techniques seem easier to perform at night.

Parazov: an alternative viewing exerciseThe alternative-vision seminars last for two hours, and take place in a typical classroom environment, with desks and chairs. Denisov — a trainer, as he calls himself — teaches his students a specific ''meditation'' that allows them to achieve the desired results. But it is not verbal teaching. Instead, Denisov himself enters the meditative state and ''broadcasts'' it. By tuning in, his students are quickly able to have experiences proving that what they have come there to learn is possible. They go on from there to develop the abilities themselves through exercises.

Here is where Denisov's work differs most markedly from that of Zolotov, for he feels that ''lazy'' people cannot learn to do what he teaches, and that seems to be what happens. In one seminar, for example, my friend Alina was able, with closed eyes, to read a newspaper. But she couldn't do this at home because she did not pursue the exercises. (Even so, her overall ESP level became very much heightened after the Denisov seminar.)

Energy: It's Not Free?

So, in line with the above-mentioned exercise requirement, Denisov differs from Zolotov in his belief that achieving results requires energy — not only the energy of practicing and not being ''lazy,'' but a kind of psychic energy. The impression I get is that he and his students feel that energy is not free: You have to work hard to get these extraordinary results.

Also, Denisov feels that remote viewing (e.g. reading a text that was in the room yesterday, or one that is in another room today), requires a ''high density'' of the energy body that most students cannot achieve. Denisov and his students have been working with lucid dreaming, as taught by Castaneda and others, in an attempt to solve the dilemma of this ''energy barrier.''

Freedom in an Unfree World

What perhaps attracts me most about Denisov is his view of personal freedom.

In an email interview, I wrote to Denisov saying: ''Jim Schnabel[2] claims that the U.S. used psychic spies against the USSR, but later dropped this practice because of the 'weirdness factor' and because one can't be 100 percent sure of data that's gathered in such a way.'' And I asked Denisov whether the Russian military and intelligence people were cooperating with him, or whether instead they perhaps interfered with him, or tried to limit what he was allowed to teach.

Here is Denisov's answer:

Same thing here. They [the government] say: ''We will give you help, financing, students, a laboratory — if and when you have developed data-gathering techniques that we can use.'' They don't understand that when I can access any information at will, I will need help from nobody. I will simply disappear from society, it will no longer hold any interest for me. What are they talking about financing me to do, if I can already predict tomorrow's market quotes, or next week's sports results and lottery numbers?

I don't possess big ambition, and I am not looking for popularity. So as soon as I achieve success in my research, nobody will hear from me [any more]. As for now, they neither impede nor help me.

So Denisov's vision is one of personal freedom, for himself and others.

Trainings in the United States

Denisov has conducted alternative vision seminars in the United States, in the Russian language, for about 40 immigrants from the former Soviet Union. There were articles about this in Russian newspapers, and a program on Russian radio. ''Everybody was reportedly satisfied with the results,'' Denisov says, and adds that he would be willing to do this again for an English-speaking audience.

Boris Zolotov: A Teacher
For half a year I have been starting and stopping the process of writing about Boris Zolotov.

Boris ZolotovIt was easy to write about Bronnikov. He explains all that he does. And it was not difficult to write about Denisov. He uses normal logic when communicating with his students.

It's totally different with Zolotov. For although he talks a lot, he doesn't really teach with words. Instead, he teaches by creating transformative experiences for his students, using Sufi-like teaching stories and other similar methods.

So although I have strong feelings about Zolotov's work, I couldn't seem to make an article from them. It seemed that Zolotov was giving just enough left-brain ''food'' to his students so that they would return to class each day (Zolotov's courses usually last from ten days to two weeks, but students may come and go as they please) — and no more.

The solution I came up with was to tell some of his stories, and to describe, not theories, but ''what happens'' to people when they take a Zolotov seminar.

For example, it's pretty common to hear from Zolotov's students, especially novices, that his lectures reveal knowledge of what they are thinking. It seems to many that he is tuning into their unspoken thoughts, and giving them answers to unspoken questions. These experiences convince them, in a left brain way, to continue with the work.

Another way that Zolotov talks to attendees' left brains is by telling stories from his own life. Half legendary, half ordinary, these tales excite something in the listener — perhaps the inner child who has always known how easy miracles are to do.

One ''miracle'' story Zolotov's tells concerns a time during his student years when he was in charge of bringing the ''booze'' to a New Year's party at a dacha outside Moscow. But he had forgotten to get the address of this dacha, and there was no one left in Moscow for him to ask. So what did Boris do? He simply hailed a taxi, got into it, and told the driver: "To dacha!" The driver did not even think to ask for further directions. He simply drove, while they two men made small talk about hunting. And after some time, they arrived in a village where Boris's friends were gathered waiting for him in the street.

Another story Zolotov likes to tell gives some insight into the man himself, rather than miracles or superpsychic abilities. It concerns a time when he was working on dolphin research at Russia's Far East Institute. One evening he went with a group of girls — young scientists — to a border outpost to give a lecture for the guards. There, the master sergeant (Starshina in Russian) invited them all to a dinner of roast suckling pig. This invitation had a catch, however. Literally, the guests were supposed to ''catch'' the meal. It turned out that the border guards grew their own pigs for food, and watching city girls in their short skirts trying to collar these baby pigs was one of their favorite and more hilarious forms of entertainment. As for actually rounding up the pig in this way, the guards had given their guests an impossible task.

Impossible, that is, until Zolotov came along. He simply thought about the problem for a moment, then removed a single plank from the pen and chased the pigs toward the too-small hole in the fence, where one of them, in trying to escape, got stuck.

In telling this and other stories, Zolotov is engaging our left brains, but he is really talking to our right brains. Some of his critics even claim that he uses NLP to ''program'' his listeners.

Usually, when asked questions, Zolotov does not answer in plain language, but gives half-cryptic explanations. When asked once why he does this, he explained — half cryptically, of course — ''I say this not for your mind to understand, but in order to let your mind change in such a way that it would be possible for you to understand me.''

Love and Learning

In the summer of 1999, at a time when I was feeling very full of love from experiencing Klaus Joehle's work,[3] I felt I really just knew everything about love-as-energy! But Zolotov showed me something new: the connection between love and learning. In a seminar I attended, he gave the following hypothetical example:

Let us say that a husband is a member of an expedition to the North Pole, and his wife is a surgeon back home. There is an emergency in the expedition — somebody needs urgent surgery. If those two people are really in love, then the husband can connect with everything his wife knows, and do the surgery as she would do it.

Zolotov's work takes account of this love energy. And as a result, in his seminars people fall in love, go through jealousy and suffering — everything that happens around being in love in everyday life. So if you dare to love in one of Zolotov's seminars, then you learn a lot — and quickly.

For example, my friend Irina fell in love in a Zolotov seminar, and all three individuals — she, the man she fell in love with, and her husband(!) — learned a lot about freedom, love, and jealousy.

Seminar Format

matrasnik & ploschadkaZolotov seminars usually take place in out-of-city sanatoriums throughout Russia, Bulgaria, and Hungary. The part of the hall where the seminar attendees sit is called matrasnik — referring to the Russian word for ''mattress'' — because during lectures it is covered with mattresses for people to sit or lie down on.

A large rectangular area in the center is called the ploschadka, or ''the work,'' and the word also refers to what goes on. It is where the one-to-one processes take place. This area is free of mattresses. It looks like a dance floor or an improv theater stage.

EOI: Expert-Operator Interaction

What happens during ploschadka is what Zolotov calls ''expert-operator interaction,'' or EOI.

Expert-Operator InteractionAs an expert, you learn to feel with your body — to feel your body moving, to express your feelings through your body. You learn to feel your partner, or anything else. This experience starts with an ''operator'' — a person who is conducting the work and who is broadcasting his feelings to those working on ploschadka.

As an operator, you learn to send different signals. You can, for example, make deep contact with an object, and after that contact is established — after you become ''one with'' the object — you can make changes to the object by changing something in yourself. The easiest example that is regularly shown in seminars is making clouds appear and disappear. (After my first Zolotov seminar I was able to disperse tiny clouds myself, but for some reason this ability left me later.)

Using EOI

Using EOI, you can cure a person from cancer. ''Ten years ago,'' Zolotov says, ''we were researching curing cancer, and we cured everyone who came to us at that time. But we have learned it, and it's no longer interesting for us. Now we are doing other things.'' (You will note in the picure below-left that there are spots of white light in the photo; these were not visible when the photo was taken.)

Zolotov healing paralyzed manNow — and this is where the crazy stuff begins — Zolotov's team uses EOI to ''cure'' things like submarines. After all, both a person with cancer and a malfunctioning submarine are simply outside objects, and you work with them using the same methods. In fact, it is said that Zolotov's EOI team helps take care of the Russian Pacific submarine fleet. While the subs are still at the base, the team tells commanders which parts might malfunction during the next underwater cruise. His team doesn't fix the problems, Zolotov said, leaving that part to the Russian sailors. But I know, from my own personal knowledge, that the tragedy to the Russian submarine Kursk happened exactly after, and apparently because, Pilulka — one of Zolotov's most important EOI team members — left his organization.

If this all seems unreal, other examples of EOI results are equally so: radiation-resistant human skin. . . the prevention of earthquakes. . . releasing Souls that descended into Hell to find and free their loved ones, then got stuck there.

Zolotov's tales, although provocative, used to seem far-fetched to me, unreal. But I began to take him seriously when I met live people who had been cured in his seminars. Here are some examples:

* Tania, from Kiev, had had her spleen surgically removed at the age of 15. Recently, both she and her doctor were surprised to find on a CAT scan that Tania's spleen had regenerated. Tania is sure that this was due to her work on Zolotov's team.


* Larisa, from Moscow, told Zolotov in a seminar that she had been diagnosed with a type of incurable cancer. Zolotov worked with her personally. His method was to take her into his arms and to lie with her, side by side, for two hours, while a seminar was going on all around them. Subsequent tests showed that Larisa no longer had cancer.


* Vita's parents insisted that she attend a Zolotov seminar, despite the time shortage — it was only days before she was to defend her graduation diploma. But doctors had found a benign tumor in her breast, and so her father was being insistent. Vita came to a seminar and was shocked to receive, from a Zolotov team member, a breast massage, right in the middle of matrasnik. While this was going on, the EOI team member explained to the audience what he was doing and how. And the result was there — the tumor dissolved.


If You Meet the Buddha on the Road. . .

I was present in a seminar near Moscow when Pilulka, mentioned before in connection with the Kursk submarine, was leaving Zolotov's team. It appeared to me then that Zolotov was taking this very hard, as she had been his closest friend. But I have since come to a different understanding. For it appears that Zolotov — in the way of all truly important Teachers — intentionally creates situations where his most promising students will leave him. It is the only way that they can continue to progress.

Here again, Zolotov uses what seems to be a Sufi-like method. He doesn't send his students away, explaining why they must go. Instead, he makes it happen in a natural way, where the former student begins to feel that he or she must begin to rely on the Self alone.

Sergey Romasenko is a 22-year-old from the small Ukrainian industrial town of Alchevsk who left the Zolotov team to conduct his own seminars. At first, he tried to mimic Zolotov, and this didn't work well. Since then, Sergey has begun to do more things that are natural to him, things which happen to be about love and feelings. In doing this, he is attracting students away from Denisov, whose focus is more on superhuman abilities. People seem to be ''voting with their feet'' for love.

Sasha Klein, of Moscow, is another example of a leader who realized himself because Zolotov ''sent him away'' at the right time. He has expanded his website to include a great print-version magazine, conducts seminars, and conducts a "Second Logic" school on the internet. His teaching method involves the use of koans.

Zolotov and Alternative Vision

As with curing cancer, there was a time when Zolotov also was interested in alternative vision. He no longer works with this in his seminars, but doesn't let an opportunity pass to demonstrate what he and his teams have achieved in the past. In Moscow seminars, for example, you can usually meet Denis Savkin, a teenager who can play computer games with a blindfold on. Denis also enjoys rollerblading blindfolded on the streets of Moscow.

Null Transportation and Borders

Null transportation means instantaneous travel at any distance. I like this that Zolotov said about it: ''When you learn null transportation, this will be the end of states as you know them. No longer will there be any borders. There would be no sense in maintaining them.'' I cannot help wondering if the ''Invisible Government's'' apparent resistance to letting us know about UFOs might have something to do with these kinds of eventualities.

Laziness: The MiniMax Principle

If Nikolay Denisov says that his students must not be lazy in order to learn from him, Zolotov goes in the other direction. ''The best student,'' he claims, ''is the laziest student.'' He also likes to say, ''The universe is the place where everybody practices being lazy.'' (In Russian, this is an amusing pun, because the Russian word ''universe'' (vselennaya) sounds like ''everybody lazy'' (vse leniatsia).

And I guess this is what I like best about Zolotov's work, and why I am more attracted to it than to the other work that is being done in teaching superpsychic powers. Because for me, laziness about doing something is my body's way of protesting that what I am thinking about is not in harmony with my universe.

Closely related to Zolotov's ideas about laziness is his MiniMax Principle: ''Maximal Result with Minimal Cost, and the Result Is Guaranteed." He likes to tell his students: "Why bother? Why work hard? Instead, make it so that you do nothing, and everything happens by itself — and happens in just the way you need it.''

It seems that because of the MiniMax approach, there is no ''energy barrier'' in front of Zolotov. The only barrier is how far and how deeply his students can follow him.

Three Men of Power: In Conclusion
Bronnikov: I can say that I felt great excitement when I first learned of Bronnikov's work, and I certainly support what he accomplishes in teaching blind children to see. But for myself, when I had a chance to join the Bronnikov Method group in my city I declined. What do I need radar vision for? I don't even use 100 percent of the senses that are already available to me! That was my thinking. Somehow, it felt that learning the Bronnikov system did not take me where I wanted to go.

Denisov: Denisov's work resonates well with my left brain, and his motive — personal freedom — resonates with my own interest in freeing myself from society's limitations. But. . . I don't want to work hard! I prefer to allow myself to be lazy. And, again, I am not that interested in the results themselves (although my left brain is). Denisov is truly conscious about who he is and who he's not: ''I am only a trainer,'' he says. ''I am not a Teacher.''

Zolotov: Above and beyond the intrigue of developing superpsychic powers, I am basically interested in living a life of joy and love. Love and joy seem to be the method of walking the path, and the compass in our journey. And so this takes me back — and forward — to Boris Zolotov. I see in him a real life person who radiates the Light of a Teacher.



Footnotes:

1. See Kostya's articles in the October and May issues of the Spirit of Ma'at, Teaching Blind Children to ''See'', and Bronnikov Update: Developing Genius Abilities.


2. Remote Viewers: The Secret History of America's Psychic Spies, by Jim Schnabel, Paperback, Dell Publishing (1997), ISBN: 0-440-22306-7.


3. See Kostya's article in the July Spirit of Ma'at, Klaus Joehle: Living on Love — The Messenger.


References: Below are several websites from which some of the material in this article was gleaned. All but one are in Russian.

1. The feature photo of this article is of Denis Savkin, riding blindfolded on rollerblades through the streets of Moscow. See rostov.ru.
2. Denisov article.
3. Lucid Dreaming site.
4. Academy of Game Technologies website.
5. Denisov's ESP website and Denisov's ESP website in English.
6. Photo of EOI is by Klein, from zen.ru/zen-spirit/foto-fr-00.htm.
7. Photos of Zolotov and the Parazov exercise are from zen.ru.
8. Photos in black-and-white of Zolotov seminar healings are by Mike Kemerovo, of Prokopievsk, Russia (mike@mail.kmr.ru).
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[quote][i]Originally posted by thyme[/i]
this is a good article.
[quote]Bronnikov
Denisov
Zolotov
The Making of the
Russian Superbeing

by Kostya Kovalenko



EOI: Expert-Operator Interaction

What happens during ploschadka is what Zolotov calls ''expert-operator interaction,'' or EOI.

Expert-Operator Interaction. As an expert, you learn to feel with your body — to feel your body moving, to express your feelings through your body. You learn to feel your partner, or anything else. This experience starts with an ''operator'' — a person who is conducting the work and who is broadcasting his feelings to those working on ploschadka.

As an operator, you learn to send different signals. You can, for example, make deep contact with an object, and after that contact is established — after you become ''one with'' the object — you can make changes to the object by changing something in yourself. The easiest example that is regularly shown in seminars is making clouds appear and disappear. (After my first Zolotov seminar I was able to disperse tiny clouds myself, but for some reason this ability left me later.)

Using EOI

Using EOI, you can cure a person from cancer. ''Ten years ago,'' Zolotov says, ''we were researching curing cancer, and we cured everyone who came to us at that time. But we have learned it, and it's no longer interesting for us. Now we are doing other things.'' (You will note in the picure below-left that there are spots of white light in the photo; these were not visible when the photo was taken.)

Zolotov healing paralyzed manNow — and this is where the crazy stuff begins — Zolotov's team uses EOI to ''cure'' things like submarines. After all, both a person with cancer and a malfunctioning submarine are simply outside objects, and you work with them using the same methods. In fact, it is said that Zolotov's EOI team helps take care of the Russian Pacific submarine fleet. While the subs are still at the base, the team tells commanders which parts might malfunction during the next underwater cruise. His team doesn't fix the problems, Zolotov said, leaving that part to the Russian sailors. But I know, from my own personal knowledge, that the tragedy to the Russian submarine Kursk happened exactly after, and apparently because, Pilulka — one of Zolotov's most important EOI team members — left his organization.

If this all seems unreal, other examples of EOI results are equally so: radiation-resistant human skin. . . the prevention of earthquakes. . . releasing Souls that descended into Hell to find and free their loved ones, then got stuck there.

Zolotov's tales, although provocative, used to seem far-fetched to me, unreal. But I began to take him seriously when I met live people who had been cured in his seminars. Here are some examples:

* Tania, from Kiev, had had her spleen surgically removed at the age of 15. Recently, both she and her doctor were surprised to find on a CAT scan that Tania's spleen had regenerated. Tania is sure that this was due to her work on Zolotov's team.


* Larisa, from Moscow, told Zolotov in a seminar that she had been diagnosed with a type of incurable cancer. Zolotov worked with her personally. His method was to take her into his arms and to lie with her, side by side, for two hours, while a seminar was going on all around them. Subsequent tests showed that Larisa no longer had cancer.


* Vita's parents insisted that she attend a Zolotov seminar, despite the time shortage — it was only days before she was to defend her graduation diploma. But doctors had found a benign tumor in her breast, and so her father was being insistent. Vita came to a seminar and was shocked to receive, from a Zolotov team member, a breast massage, right in the middle of matrasnik. While this was going on, the EOI team member explained to the audience what he was doing and how. And the result was there — the tumor dissolved.

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This is an interesting article, Thyme. I was particularly attracted to the above description of EOI or Expert Operator Interaction, which I think is closely akin to the concept of LERM. What appears to be happening is that the Expert Operator has learned to interact with matter at a sub-nuclear state and knows how to "manipulate" quantum and sub-quantum consciousness membranes into a particular cause and effect manner. I will attempt to bring more to light on the subject at a latter date. Thanks again!
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Miracles and the concept or technology of LERM or Light-Encoded Reality Matrix is very closely related. Because there is much more known or at least published about miracles and their manifestation, I think that I, for one, need to know what constitutes a miracle and how they are made manifest into our lives. There has been volumes of related materials added to our libraries of understanding in the last fifty years or so. I hope that we all can benefit from this exercise.

If it were left to the theologians and philosophers the debate about what specific events should be classified as miracles could go on for eternity, and that, folks, is a long, long time. Certainly it has been going on at least since [b][i]New Testament[/b][/i] times, and it continues today. In the final analysis, however, miracles are not just events that are “out there” in the super-natural realm which, might or might not, have the ability be measured, qualified and quantified, debated and proved. They are also events witnessed by an audience, and [b][i] their effect is to provoke in that audience a sense of wonder, awe, or transcendent understanding. [/b][/i] Miracles, in other words, provoke or strengthen “faith” in those who witness them. Thyme listed several examples of "miracles" in his entry, which I think are completely valid and worthy of notation. I know that it is hard to put into words some of the incidents in our own lives that we [b][i]know[/b][/i] were miracles, but I sincerely hope that some of you will do that for your own blessing and for our edification.

The concept of faith is very important to the subject of Miracles and of LERM. Faith, according to [b][u]Webster’s Dictionary[/b][/u] is [quote][b][color=red](1)(a) allegiance to duty or a person: LOYALTY. (b) fidelity to one’s promises. (2)(a) belief and trust in and loyalty to God (b) belief in the traditional doctrines of a religion ( c ) firm belief in something for which there is no proof. (d) complete confidence. (3) something that is believed esp. with strong conviction: esp. without doubt or question. [/quote][/b][/color]. But faith is much more!


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I am curious about the use of the term "miracles." I don't believe there is such a thing. Jesus went around and LERMed. He showed people that it can be done. Because he shouldered the mantle of messiah, what he did was interpreted as "God like powers" or "miracle" when actually, we were designed to do such a thing.

The more I continue to read the wingmakers material. The more I am inclined to believe LERM happens when we least expect it, when we don't need it. We should look at LERM as if were easy to do, like walking or talking.

I have had a puzzling question in my mind now for 2 years. If I could LERM what would it be. I haven't been able to decide between an apple or a bowl of spinach. 2 years mind you...

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[quote][i]Originally posted by AmericasMostWanted[/i]




I am curious about the use of the term "miracles." I don't believe there is such a thing. Jesus went around and LERMed. He showed people that it can be done. Because he shouldered the mantle of messiah, what he did was interpreted as "God like powers" or "miracle" when actually, we were designed to do such a thing.

The more I continue to read the wingmakers material. The more I am inclined to believe LERM happens when we least expect it, when we don't need it. We should look at LERM as if were easy to do, like walking or talking.

I have had a puzzling question in my mind now for 2 years. If I could LERM what would it be. I haven't been able to decide between an apple or a bowl of spinach. 2 years mind you...




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Beautifully put Joel and it corrects something I stated earlier; to be specific, I have previously stated that when organic and inorganic objects have "miraculously" manifested in my presence, they appeared when I [i]needed[/i] them.

With hind sight, I now realise I did [b]not[/b] need these things, however, their appearance did defy every rational explanation at the time!

Will, if you are curious about the circumstances behind these "miraculous" manifestations, I hope you understand that these [i]personal [/i]events are just that; personal.

Regarding proof, I reckon it's fair to say that more than enough has already been experienced by members of this forum, to "prove" on a personal level that the WM and Lyricus materials are indeed catalytic in enhancing our understanding and experience of "the divine".

In recent years, have you noticed how those with "miraculous" powers are being brought down to earth?!

I have, and I think it's pretty cool.

To give an example, there's a guy over here in England called Derren Brown. To earn a living, he does T.V. and stage shows which, to me, and clearly his audience, are showcases of his amazing "powers"; he even performed here in Salisbury recently and did a special from the U.S. where he fooled some of the religious establisment into accepting him as a modern day messiah; [b]Ha![/b]

Now to the subject of modern day messiahs:P

To quote James, "there is not a [b]single [/b]Messiah, Prophet or Saviour in this era that will come and balance these elitist forces. In [b]our [/b]time, it [b]is [/b]a co-mingling of cosmic, extraterrestrial and human forces because the stakes are too important, the [b]macro[/b]environment too complicated, and the histories too muddled for any [b]one [/b]person to step forward and help humanity leap over the hurdles that lie ahead."

As starduster recently reminded us, from Liminal Cosmogony,

"These four phases occur sequentially, unfolding in time and informing and catalyzing the next phase until it culminates in the discovery of the Grand Portal. This progression operates in subtle, intricate, and meticulous processes, and despite the apparent surface chaos the deeper ordered systems prevail and entrain the surface effects of time, space and matter.

At the end of the fourth phase the energy of UIS and the virtual structures of the master template begin to “descend” within the planetary dimension of time and space – attracted by the shifting consciousness of the species. Those members of the species that are energetically attracted to the higher dimensional regions of the genetic mind will – during this time – reveal the science of multidimensional reality that has always been encoded into the master template, waiting for the resonance of minds and hearts to uncover it.

The Grand Portal is holographic, emitting from First Source and extending to UIS, embedded within the master template, conducted into the quantum fields of the genetic mind, drawn into the energetic systems of the soul carrier, and finally coiled within the DNA molecule of the species. This masterful interchange of energy, information, and expression is orchestrated by the magnetic field that surrounds the Grand Portal.

The Grand Portal is similar to a gravitational field that entrains all surrounding matter to its presence. This presence is electromagnetically released into the three-dimensional realms, whereby it becomes the beckoning force that literally tows a species through time and space to the Grand Portal, and through the energetic field that it represents.


*Underivative Information Structures (UIS)."

I feel that, oh, roughly 2000 years ago, a cool dude called Jesus did indeed "shoulder" the expectation of many people, however, today, there are many cool dudes and dudettes who are, in [b]essence[/b], shouldering a similar burden or expectation.

Will, when you mentioned.....

"..... miracles are not just events that are “out there” in the super-natural realm which, might or might not, have the ability be measured, qualified and quantified, debated and proved. They are also events witnessed by an audience, and their effect is to provoke in that audience a sense of wonder, awe, or transcendent understanding. Miracles, in other words, provoke or strengthen “faith” in those who witness them. Thyme listed several examples of "miracles" in his entry, which I think are completely valid and worthy of notation. I know that it is hard to put into words some of the incidents in our own lives that we know were miracles, but I sincerely hope that some of you will do that for your own blessing and for our edification."

.....I hear ya loud and clear!

But do you, me or any of us want to build a temple for those witnesses?!

.....far better to encourage people to experience for [i]themselves[/i] the miraculous, don't ya think?!




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miracle or "super-natural"... James hints at this becoming more natural as we adjust ourselves while "establishing a new, higher dimensional
consciousness on earth",,,, as explained in the Energetic Heart Paper:


[quote]This is part of [b]the process for a planetary consciousness to move from one
dimension to a higher dimension where the attributes of that higher
dimension [/b]can find expression in the mass consciousness and transform the way in which hierarchical systems like government, commerce, religion and culture function.

This re-gridding or transformation of the key systems of the planet must
occur before the major discoveries of humanity can manifest. These major
discoveries include the repositioning of intelligence as something
supernatural, interconnected and heart-centered. This is the precursor to the irrefutable scientific discovery of the human soul and its interconnection
with the broader multiverse, which will come about in the last quarter of this century.

....

Your thirst for knowledge is admirable. Your thirst for experience in the
other dimensions waxes and wanes from fear of the unknown. Your thirst
for heart intelligence is more powerful than you imagine because you relabel and redistribute it as the thirst for knowledge and experience. This is because you have focused on the third eye, on the higher mind, the crown chakra, the cosmic knowing; and you have struggled to bring knowledge and experience into your mind.

There is nothing wrong or misguided about this.[b] It is natural and is part of the encoding of those present in this time[b] I am only explaining that it is time to shift to the heart. It is a fair question to ask “why”?

Abundant knowledge exists on this planet relative to man’s spiritual quest
and ascension career. It does not require layers upon layers of
embellishment. Indeed, these “layers”—in many cases—create the new
filters and densities that obscure the pure understanding inside your hearts.

This is a time of creativity and co-creation. It is not a time of re-working,
embellishing, or enlarging the knowledge systems of the past, and there is a reason.

Human destiny is focused on establishing a new, higher dimensional
consciousness on earth, and in so doing, creating conscious, two-way
linkages to the multiverse and the entities and beings therein. As we rampup to this shift in consciousness, each of us will require an enhanced
creativity and intuition, which is the very fiber of our energetic heart.

When I speak of creativity, I’m not speaking to the activities of art, music,
or writing.[b] I am talking about the ultimate creativity—creating new
perceptions of your reality. When you view your reality through the prism
of your energetic heart, your reality will shift in the direction that humanity
itself is shifting. In other words, there is an alignment between your view of
reality and the future reality of humanity.[/b]

In this alignment, there is power to leverage in achieving the shift (or
leaping over the hurdle). This is why it is so vital. It is also why it touches so many.[/quote]

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Thank you Chakobsa8, in a moment I felt how your elimination of what you felt extraneous to your concept of LERM and miracles . However, what this is and means can be so very simple if one is able to go beyond the complications of a mind , only.;)

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[quote][i]Originally posted by Shayalana[/i]
Thank you Chakobsa8, in a moment I felt how your elimination of what you felt extraneous to your concept of LERM and miracles . However, what this is and means can be so very simple if one is able to go beyond the complications of a mind , only.;) [/quote]


Yes, I deleted words better left unsaid. Sometimes my mind is a seething cauldron of conflicting theories and laws, and sometimes it is singular and full of peace and harmony.

What I was trying to convey was my very personal feelings and opinions about subject matter that draws on feelings, opinions, and, at times flawed observations of events that appears to be beyond the realm of revelation for those involved here.

This has been an exercise in, at once, elation, enlightenment and in humiliation. Please excuse my sometimes overzealousness. In many respects we are all very much alike here...perhaps, at times, truly of one mind and of one accord. Sometimes, however, I feel disjointed and alone. That is a shortcoming that I am still working on. Again, thank you friends!

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There are many and sundry accounts of miracles sprinkled throughout literature and spoken legends. One has but to open his or her eyes and ears and the world, our solar system, the invisible and invisible universe and multi-verse eagerly displays itself in all its miraculous splendor and glory. Pick any day, any hour, and any minute and there are miracles there just for the experiential delight of the beholder.

As a matter of fact, it is often those who have witnessed more miracles who have a tendency to no longer recognize them and acknowledge them for what they are, because it is then that the miraculous can enter into the world of the mundane. Contrary to all of the previous views of what constitutes a miracle presented herein, all of life, indeed, is one continuous, interconnected chain of phenomenal occurrences. I believe that the more we can recognize that the more each of us can sense the divine thread by which we are all sewn together.

As to producing matter from non-matter and non-space, just as Shayalana so aptly stated, that ability might not always be such a glorious or welcome thing. There are more than just two sides to the gold doubloon.: It can produce pleasure, and it can produce pain.

There is a story told in slightly different versions throughout almost all the Eastern traditions of a man who, because of his extraordinary goodness, was approached by God and offered the power to perform miracles. The man refused and stated, [b][i]“My life is so simple now with so much beauty, why would I want to complicate that? I cannot imagine, for one thing, that there could be anything more, nor can I imagine that the ability to perform miracles, as you say, is not something that is already occurring around me daily without my interference. If You gave me the power to do miracles, you would be giving me a possession that I am doing perfectly well without. Indeed, I have renounced all possessions long ago. So please take your miraculous powers and give them to somebody else.”[/b][/i]


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[i][b]"God argued with the man, of course, because the world was so much in need of miracles and there were so few good people who could be entrusted with the power to perform them. At last the man agreed, but only on one condition---that any miraculous happening should only take place behind his back so that he never knew about it. In that way, he could be safe from the temptation to start to possess these powers and thereby fall into the trap of self-importance and ego-indulgence. The condition was agreed upon and the miraculous powers were placed in the man’s shadow."[/b][/i] The story continues:

[b][i]"When the man walked along, his shadow made arid paths green, caused withered plants to bloom, gave clear water to dried up brooks, fresh color to pale children, and joy to unhappy men and women. The man, meanwhile, simply went about his daily life diffusing virtue as the stars diffuse light and the flowers scent without being aware of it. The people, respecting his humility, followed him silently never speaking to him about his miracles. Soon they even forgot his name and, instead, called him “The Holy Shadow.” " [/b][/i]


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It is the Shadow of God that Fifteen insisted his group address the discovery of the technology of Light-Encoded Reality Matrix or LERM as Dr. Neruda described it in his interviews with Sarah:

From Neruda Interview #2:

[quote][b][color=red] Sarah: “Now you’ve really crossed over the line. You’re going to tell me that Fifteen discovered GOD. That He has proof of GOD?”[/color]

[color=brown]Dr. Neruda: “Yes, in a way, but--but GOD isn’t what we call it. It’s LERM. And Fifteen was quite emphatic that we never refer to LERM as GOD or even GOD-like. He preferred to think of LERM as the shadow of GOD. The light that casts the shadow, and the object of the shadow itself, he believes, is impossible to prove through science or any other objective form of inquiry.”[/color][/b] [/quote]

Logic tells me that it is much easier to take the stance of “The Holy Shadow” than that of the “Miracle Worker”, who can materialize energy and matter at will. Many of us, including myself, still, however, often need an overt “sign” at times to direct our paths and enlighten our being. We still need constant reassurance that First Source is still creating according to some divine order or plan, and miracles are the icing on the cake or the spice of life in all its various ramifications.


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[quote][i]Originally posted by starduster[/i]
miracle or "super-natural"... James hints at this becoming more natural as we adjust ourselves while "establishing a new, higher dimensional
consciousness on earth",,,, as explained in the Energetic Heart Paper:


[quote][b][color=blue] "This is part of the process for a planetary consciousness to move from one dimension to a higher dimension where the attributes of that higher
dimension can find expression in the mass consciousness and transform the way in which hierarchical systems like government, commerce, religion and culture function.

This re-gridding or transformation of the key systems of the planet must occur before the major discoveries of humanity can manifest. These major discoveries include the repositioning of intelligence as something supernatural, interconnected and heart-centered. This is the precursor to the irrefutable scientific discovery of the human soul and its interconnection with the broader multiverse, which will come about in the last quarter of this century.

Your thirst for knowledge is admirable. Your thirst for experience in the other dimensions waxes and wanes from fear of the unknown. Your thirst for heart intelligence is more powerful than you imagine because you relabel and redistribute it as the thirst for knowledge and experience. This is because you have focused on the third eye, on the higher mind, the crown chakra, the cosmic knowing; and you have struggled to bring knowledge and experience into your mind.

There is nothing wrong or misguided about this. It is natural and is part of the encoding of those present in this time I am only explaining that it is time to shift to the heart. It is a fair question to ask “why”?

Abundant knowledge exists on this planet relative to man’s spiritual quest and ascension career. It does not require layers upon layers of embellishment. Indeed, these “layers”—in many cases—create the new filters and densities that obscure the pure understanding inside your hearts.

[b]This is a time of creativity and co-creation. It is not a time of re-working, embellishing, or enlarging the knowledge systems of the past, and there is a reason.[/u]

Human destiny is focused on establishing a new, higher dimensional consciousness on earth, and in so doing, creating conscious, two-way linkages to the multiverse and the entities and beings therein. As we ramp up to this shift in consciousness, each of us will require an enhanced
creativity and intuition, which is the very fiber of our energetic heart.

[u]When I speak of creativity, I’m not speaking to the activities of art, music, or writing. I am talking about the ultimate creativity—creating new perceptions of your reality. [/u]When you view your reality through the prism of your energetic heart, your reality will shift in the direction that humanity itself is shifting. In other words, there is an alignment between your view of reality and the future reality of humanity.

[u]In this alignment, there is power to leverage in achieving the shift (or leaping over the hurdle). This is why it is so vital. It is also why it touches so many.[/b][/color][u][/quote] [/quote]


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The previous quote from [b][i]The Energetic Heart[/b][/i] is what this thread is all about. It isn't about the miracles that I have experienced or any individual's experiences that may or may not constitute a miraculous occurrence. If what you have experienced is personal and private, far be it from me to intrude on that. On the other hand, if you care to share your experiences, I am sure that any and everyone here will look upon those experiences with a certain amount of distance and ambiguity. Also, I am not trying to create a shrine to or make any miraculous activity an object of veneration.

If you choose not to believe in miracles, or if you want to call miracles "LERM" because of the stigma that has grown up around the use of the word, "miracle", that, too, is totally your business. I respect that.

I am not here to antagonize anyone or to convince anyone of my beliefs or lack of beliefs. I am not writing down my thoughts here for anyone's edification including myself. As I said before, This has been an exercise in, at once, elation, enlightenment and in humiliation. This, too, is an attempt to quantify and qualify my own beliefs and ideas on the subject of miracles and LERM.


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[b][i]“To explain all nature is too difficult a task for any one man or even for any one age. ‘Tis much better to do a little with certainty, and leave the rest for others that come after you, than to explain all things.”[/b][/i] Sir Isaac Newton

Alongside the efforts of the religious men and women to define and quantify the miraculous, there have long been efforts by those with more scientific leanings to identify the natural forces they felt must underlie extraordinary events. Albertus Magnus, Roger Bacon, Ramon Lull, and other scholarly priests and philosophers of the Middle Ages believed that the “scientific” secret of miracles might lie in the practice of alchemy. The fact that two or more substances combined could produce a new and totally different substance was no less than miraculous to these men. They devoted much time in study and speculation about any psychic or magical ingredients that might be at work in their experiments--an ingredient, most of them concluded, that must come somehow via the experimenter himself.

They were supported in this view by the translations of many texts from the Arabic, which began to flow out of the university in Toledo during the twelfth century. Among these were secret teachings from the Pythagoreans, Egyptians, and Babylonians, along with the Cabbala from the mystical Jewish tradition. These medieval scientists did not, however, in any way consider themselves to be working against the Christian Church. In fact, their science was in their own minds [b][i]“dedicated to the glory of God.” [/b][/i] Their search was not for a magic separate from Christianity, but to support the miraculous claims of the Church by bringing to bear whatever insights could be found in the study of the occult lore of the ancients.

The sixteenth century scientist, Cornelius Agrippa’s stated aim was to [b][i]"restore that ancient magic, studied by all the wise, purged and freed from the errors of impiety, and adorned with its own reasonable system’ to the spiritual life of his day." [/b][/i] His contemporary, Paracelsus, saw the possibility that both scientists and magicians, physicians and healers, if properly trained and disciplined, could be [b][i]"holy men in God who serve the forces of nature."[/b][/i] Agrippa and Paracelsus were, nevertheless, continually forced to flee from one city to the next to avoid persecution by church and government authorities. A few decades later Giordano Bruno, the Dominican friar who insisted that miracles and magic must have a natural scientific basis, was burned at the stake. Why? Apparently, the idea that human beings could stand on an equal footing with God was unacceptable.


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Montague Summers, author of [b][u][i]The Physical Phenomena of Mysticism[/b][/i][/u], embodies the medieval view, notwithstanding the fact that he was writing in this century. In discussing the work of Pietro Pompanazzi, an Italian scientist and philosopher whose approach to the miraculous was similar to that of Agrippa, Paracelsus and Bruno, Summers begins by reminding us that [b][i]"the bigotry of science is obstinate and blind."[/i][/b] He goes on to say that Pompanazzi [b][i]"did not hesitate to spawn in his copious works such horrible errors as the proposition that the curative power of Holy Relics consists in the faith of the pilgrim who comes to venerate them"… [/b][/i] For Pompanazzi, a miracle is the effect of some natural cause which may in future be discovered, although as yet we do not know the material reason. Nor, I might add, asserts Summers, [b][i]"are we likely to know it until God, in His own time, reveals it, which may or may not be here.[/b][/i]

He goes on to tell us that Pompanazzi claimed[b][i] "that man within himself is a perfect battery of marvelous force, which he can, if he knew how, energize with amazing results."[/b][/i] Then he points out that [b][i] "the sorcerer, Cornelius Agrippa, and the atheist Giordano Bruno shared Pompanazzi’s subversive ideas."[/b][/i] The argument advanced by Summers against these blasphemies is straightforward if not entirely satisfying, [b][i]"God, and God alone, makes miracles…argument finished.[/b][/i] To suggest that ordinary humans might have within themselves the capacity to do miraculous things is tantamount to blasphemy.

In the past few decades, there has been a growing acceptance of scientific research into the inexplicable forces that sometimes enter our lives. This is due in no small part to the persistence of the researchers in conducting their experiments, responding to criticism, redesigning their experiments to satisfy the skeptics, and insisting that their findings be taken seriously. Much of the research on such phenomena as clairvoyance, psycho-kinesis, out of body travel, and so on, is, in fact, very serious indeed, and seems to be not very much fun (unless one is interested in that sort of thing). The laboratory conditions, statistical probabilities, and sober earnestness that characterized the experiments in the 1930’s of Joseph Banks Rhine, father of experimental parapsychology, set the tone for virtually all the experiments to follow. Although the results of these tests do indeed prove that some people are clairvoyant, able to affect material objects with their minds, or transfer their thought to one another without speaking, there is very little room for playfulness or spontaneity to emerge. Certainly the sacred quality that characterizes the miraculous is neither encouraged nor, one presumes, could it be measured in the same way one can measure how many cards are correctly identified by a blindfolded subject gifted with ESP.


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The scientific investigators of paranormal human abilities so far haven’t been able t explain why some people have these gifts and others don’t, or, for that matter, where their gifts might come from. But they have at least, for the most part, succeeded in creating an atmosphere where those among us who are gifted with unusual abilities are no longer subject to accusations of demon possession or witchcraft . That in itself is a tremendous contribution towards expanding our collective vision of the miraculous possibilities available to human beings. But the question remains of what we would do with these miraculous powers if we had them. If we could read the minds of others, move large objects about with nothing more than the force of our will, see through walls, or into the future, would we have the integrity and wisdom not to misuse our abilities?

At the risk of going too far a field to find a relevant example, we might look at the relatively recent experiments with powerful hallucinogens to find an answer. After 1943, when the Swiss chemist Albert Hoffman accidentally discovered the hallucinogenic properties of lysergic acid diethyl amide, commonly known as LSD, among the first people to be interested in the compound were officials of the U.S. Central Intelligence Agency. Now for centuries, hallucinogens have been used by various cultures as part of sacred ceremonies because of their effect in clearing away the normal filters of the mind which enable us to function in the mundane world. The aim of clearing away these filters was to enable the participants in religious and healing ceremonies to be in direct, although chemically induced, communion with the divine, or spirit world. The first thought of those in the CIA who were interested in the possible uses of LSD was not, needless to say, to discover whether one might invite all the world’s leaders to a beautiful spot and ask them to take a sacred journey together to understand God’s message of love and peace. Rather, they hoped that they might be able to spray it on battlefields to confuse enemy soldiers, or administer it to taciturn captured spies to get the truth out of them. On the civilian side of things, the first generation of those who experimented with psychedelics might have embarked upon their journeys in the spirit of sacred pilgrimage, but subsequent generations have tended more and more to use the same drugs as entertainment, or even as part of demonic rituals.

The previous example serves as just another reminder that no matter what tools we are given, scientific technology, psychic abilities, or mind-altering drugs, the tools are not miraculous in and of themselves. Without a firm grounding in what we characterize as the good or the sacred, we seem to be all too likely to misuse these wondrous gifts in one way or another.


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In 1947 a man named Dennis Gabor was looking down the barrel of an electron microscope when he grew as frustrated with its clumsiness and inadequacies as Sir Isaac Newton must have been with the telescope before he improved it. Digging around in the storehouse of his scientific education, Gabor found a particular type of calculus invented by an eighteenth century Frenchman, Jean B.J. Fourier. Fourier, in his pursuit of the particular beauty and truth offered by mathematics, had discovered a way to convert any pattern, no matter how complex, into the language of simple wave forms---mathematics. Once converted, of course they could also be converted back again through a set of corresponding equations. These Fourier transforms, as his equations are known, enabled Dennis Gabor to work out the theories that led to the development of the hologram.

Mr. Gabor’s Nobel Prize for his discoveries didn’t come until 1971. By then laser technology had enable us to produce holographic images as we know them today. One of the extraordinary characteristics of holographic film, (the kind that you shine light through to create the three-dimensional images, not the kind that holds a three-dimensional image that can be seen without any special illuminations), is that if you cut it into pieces, each piece still contains the whole image. This, the interference patterns created by Fourier’s wave forms, contain all the information needed to reproduce the original complex pattern, no matter which bit of them you use. The image does get less clear the smaller the pieces are in relation to the entire sheet of film. However, all of the basic information is there.

This news provoked sparks in a number of scientists, and explained some problems they had been pondering for years. To Karl Pribram, for example, it explained why people’s memories worked the way they did and even remained intact after the parts of the brain that were supposed to contain these memories had been destroyed by disease or surgery. If the brain functions like a piece of holographic film, then the memories must exist everywhere in the brain, not just in a particular place. It also explained some of the more mysterious aspects of how we learn things---not bit by bit, particle by particle, but through a complex and multi-layered interaction of wave forms that is much more efficient and, so to speak, more holistic.


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The hologram also provided a powerful metaphor for physicist David Bohm, and his theories about the nature of the universe still remain controversial today. To Bohm, reality is in fact one undivided whole. The three-dimensional reality through which we move day by day is the unfolded, or explicate order of a deeper level of reality he calls the implicate order. This unfolding and enfolding is happening constantly, which is why he prefers the term holo-movement to the term hologram to describe the universe.

The idea that life, the universe and everything, can be seen as a hologram or holo-movement is all very heady stuff, about as far removed from Isaac Newton’s clockwork world and the common sense notions that allow us to get up and go to work in the morning as one can get. The beauty of his theory is that it also includes these everyday realities and allows them to exist in their own way as illusory or holographic as they might be. It also, many scientists are beginning to believe, allows many other realities to exist as well including the realities of all sorts of things that have been called miracles. If everything, including human consciousness has its home in Bohm’s implicate order, for example, then why should we not be able to return to that home or travel to a specific location different from the one we occupy in it---to see reality as it must be enfolded there?

If we can travel through time as is suggested previously and which is certainly indicated in the WingMaker material then, of course, it is theoretically possible that a medium can read the past of an individual or that a psychic healer can read the source of a disease and its cure. All that is needed is the “gift” of being able to scan the information contained in the implicate order, or, to use other languages, in Edgar Cayce’s [b][i] "Universal Consciousness"[/b][/i], Barbara Brennan's, author of [b][i][u]Hands of Light[/b][/i][/u], concept of [b][i]"higher intelligence."[/b][/i]Rupert Sheldrake’s, [u][i][b] The Presence of the Past, Morphic Resonance and the Habits of Nature[/i][/u][/b], concept of [b][i]“non-physical or Trans-physical reality”[/b][/i], St. John’s [b][i]“God equals The Word”[/b][/i], and Dr. Neruda’s, [b][i]“Light-Encoded Reality Matrix” (LERM).[/b][/i]

Thus, in the latter part of the twentieth century, scientists appear to have just about reached the limit of taking things apart and have started to try and put them back together again. That was the original meaning of the word “religion”---to bring together. It has always been the goal of religious mysticism in its search for wholeness, union with the source, or with the divine. As Rene Weber points out in the introduction to her collection of interviews, [b][i][u]Dialogues With Scientists and Sages[/b][/i][/u]. She states,[b][i] “It is mysticism not science which pursues the Grand Unified Theory with ruthless logic---the one that includes the questioner within its answer. [color=red] Although the scientist wants to unify everything in one ultimate equation, he does not want to unify consistently, since he wants to leave himself outside that equation.” [/color][/b][/i] She also points out that with the advent of quantum mechanics, where [b][i]“the observer is the observed,” this separation starts to break down."[/b][/i] Ultimately, as Weber so eloquently states, [b][i]“A parallel principle drives both science and mysticism---the assumption that unity lies at the heart of our world, and that it can be discovered and experienced by man.”[/b][/i]

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Our culture has tried for a rather long time to suppress the human longing for the miraculous and to deny the reality of a transcendent force that we have most often called God, (or in the case of the WingMaker material, First Source). To recall the words of C.S. Lewis, we have for some time lived in a world where [b][i]“the mass is still simple and the seers are no longer attended to,”[/b][/i] and we have indeed achieved a great deal of [b][i]“superficiality, baseness, and ugliness.”[/b][/i] Our recognition of this fact is evident in the growing sense that even though we might have lessened the prospect of nuclear, biological, or chemical warfare in the past few years, we may yet be facing extinction. Added to the fears of warfare are the affects of super volcanoes, massive earthquakes and tsunamis, collisions with meteors and comets, famine and starvation, and perhaps even a possible invasion from hostile aliens such as is predicted in the WingMaker material. It is natural in times like these for the human animal to look for miraculous intervention in its affairs. That the images of the transcendent force behind the hoped for miracles can take the shape of space aliens of the benevolent kind, (such as the Corteum in the WingMaker material) may seem a rather comical or even ludicrous reflection of our culture and a rather tragic indication of the failure of traditional institutions to provide meaningful solutions to our sense of helplessness and despair.

At the same time there is cause for celebration and hope. The very fact that so many people are searching and that even the most outlandish of their discoveries by and large get a respectful, if not entirely credulous, hearing. The world wide web and the internet has brought together peoples and cultures and allowed them to share ideas and ideologies on a scale that has not occurred in recent history. Man still performs atrocities against other men on a sometimes grand scale, but, on the whole, there seems to be a greater understanding of our likenesses and our differences. At least that is one step up above total barbarism, ignorance and ambivalence.

[b][i][color=red]The fitness of all miracles, in the final analysis, is determined by the fact that they promote love and healing---a unity of humanity under God, however that God is defined or named. “Reflection tells us that we are in sympathetic relation to each other,”[/b][/i][/color] said the Greek philosopher, Plontinus. [b][i]“Suffering overcome at the sight of pain naturally drawn to forming attachments"---[/b][/i]all this can be due only to some unity among us. And if spells and other forms of magic are efficient, even at a distance, to attract us into sympathetic relations, [b][i][color=red]the agency can be no other than the one Soul. A quiet word induces changes in a remote object and makes itself heard at vast distance, which lends itself to some degree of proof of all things within the one Soul.[/b][/i][/color]


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[quote][i]Originally posted by Chakobsa8[/i]




.....within the one Soul.




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[i]William. A word to the wise.....[/i]

[b]ONE![/b]

You did it.

You cracked the code. There is just one soul, count 'em.....er.....one.

Uno.

Ein.

Un/une.

Etc. etc.

I think you get my drift.:)




Some one, any one.....puhleeze.....I'm dyin' here;)




Will. You rock.

Will. You are a rock.

I thank you,

Russ aka Rusty aka Rissole aka.....:P

P.S. [i]All[/i] names are profoundly encoded.....some are very easy to decode e.g. Tom Hanks=Thanks;)

Fidel Castro (Get well soon, he's a "hugger" by the way.....very cool don't ya think?!) =.....well I'll let others decode that one:cool:




Have a wonderful day Will and send my best to your family and friends:)




For you

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By the way, that's not a picture of me.....that's my brother.....agent Smith:D:D:D:D:D

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Russ: Quite frankly, I look forward to your kind words and vast array of knowledge on many subjects. To me, there is nothing like conversing with someone who understands one's mindset and is able to augment and clarify the intricate workings of the mind and soul. I cherish our friendship and that of many others here on this WingMakers's forum, and look forward to sharing feelings and insights with you and others here for a long, long time to come.

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With the aforementioned criteria for determining the viability of the miraculous, I can easily state that the basis for the WingMaker saga with its attendant interviews, music, paintings, poetry, philosophies, and what not falls into the parameters of the miraculous. It promotes love and healing and a unity under God, however God is defined or named.

For some of us, myself included, it brings together in a coherent and logical manner almost all research into what defines the miraculous in a way that satisfies both the mystical and the scientific. One has but to follow the WingMaker precepts and to consult the reference materials on which a goodly portion of the scientific analysis are based to know that the major portions thereof are based on leading-edge knowledge in our day and time.

Just as Sarah was baffled by Dr. Neruda’s explanation of Light-Encoded Reality Matrix (LERM), I, too, fail to realize the method by which Dr. Neruda was able to manifest a ball of twine and the tidy sum of $10, 000 from non-matter in non-space/time. I understand to some degree the reasoning behind quantum mechanics, and I also understand the reasoning behind the concept of Faith, but putting the two together to materialize something that was not there before is quite another matter.

Many years ago I really got into the whole “mind over matter” ideology and remember being able to “will” specific leaves to fall from a fruitless Mulberry tree that was in the front yard of my home in Silver City, New Mexico, at least part of the time. Of course, that could easily have been coincidental, because it was the fall of the year and all of the leaves were in the process of falling and of being recycled to dust.

Today, I am “hell-bent” on either willing my mind to predict the winning numbers of our “Power Ball” lottery drawing in hopes of winning millions of dollars, which, I suppose, is pretty selfish on my part. I know for a fact that a tried and true method of self-made millionaires, who have taken the time to reveal the secrets of their success, have stated that in order to become wealthy one must establish “tangible” goals. One method for doing that is to post pictures of what one wishes to obtain on mirrors or walls that are looked at frequently, and, thus, setting the mind into motion for making those “dreams” come true. Some of the most affluent people were brought up in abject poverty and have such a strong sense of escaping from those debilitating conditions that their every waking and even their non-waking moments are filled with the desire to “make” money.


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Whether the process of making money borders on obsession or an honest attempt to better the living conditions of someone’s nucleus of family and friends, it does take the ability to focus beyond the “normal” in today’s society to achieve financial success. It is a statistical fact that about 95% of all people transition into retirement years in poverty, perhaps simply because they (or we) are complacent and content with the status quo or fail to realize that time slipping away is equal to financial security slipping away. Some, including myself, have been so programmed into living for some nebulous “hereafter” by my religious progenitors that it is near impossible to lay up treasures here on this earth for tomorrow. Although my horoscope tells me that I will someday be wealthy, reason tells me that someday may never come, and I must be content with what I have today.

To some extent, quantum mechanics is explained in the Neruda Interviews of the WingMaker material. Dr. Neruda explains quantum mechanics in a manner that is understandable to someone with at least a basic knowledge of nuclear physics as it is known or at least postulated today. If we, as a group of like-minded individuals in search of [b][i]Soul[/b][/i], are to have success in our endeavors in that quest for knowledge and wisdom, I feel that it is incumbent upon us to have more than just a basic knowledge of quantum mechanics. I believe that we need to be able to recognize the “shadow” of god for what it is when we experience it at our level of understanding. It is my desire and purpose to somehow [b][i][color=purple] [size=17]“… come to lift our gaze from the fire's brightness and cast shadows of our own."[/b][/i][/color][/size] (from WingMaker Poetry, Chamber Eight).


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From the second Neruda interview with Sarah we find Dr. Neruda's introduction to the subject of Quantum mechanics and Light-Encoded Reality Matrix:

[quote][b] [color=red]“Sarah: "Forgive me, but what exactly are quantum objects?"[/color]

[color=brown]Dr. Neruda: "They're elementals like electrons or neutrons. Quantum objects are fundamental building blocks of matter, and they can appear both as a wave and a particle."[/color]

[color=red]Sarah: "Okay, so Fifteen was trying to prove that quantum objects are influenced by consciousness. Why was that so dangerous to a research university?"[/color]

[color=brown]Dr. Neruda: "That in itself wasn't so radical, but it was only a small part of his total research into how to construct BST using the new physics that was being introduced rapidly in the community of quantum physics. Fifteen has always maintained that Einstein's general theory of relativity was flawed. Which is not a popular position to take. In somewhat the same way that Newton's theory of the mechanistic universe became too constricted and unable to explain so much of the phenomenon of what we call today, complexity or chaos theory, Fifteen felt that Einstein's theories underestimated the influence that consciousness had on quantum objects.

"In the fifties and sixties, this was tantamount to heresy, particularly because it was impossible to prove by mathematical modeling or formula. Consequently, Fifteen just continued to develop his theories in secret and began to become noticed by the ACIO when he became involved in a project having to do with heuristic learning systems based on a technology that the ACIO had re-engineered from the Greys.

"The project leader from the ACIO recognized his intellect and rouge creativity and began to develop a relationship with the young man. Several months later, Fifteen was recruited to join the ACIO and essentially left his identity behind, quickly rising to the position of director of research. He was later introduced to the Corteum intelligence accelerator technology, and the rest is history as they say." [/b][/color]


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[b][i][size=25][color=purple]skip in narrative………………………………..........[/i][/size][/color]

[color=brown]Dr. Neruda: “Quantum objects become increasingly granular or refined until they become pure light energy and cease to have mass. They are not of physical reality, but rather of a pure-state energy. This energy is further segmented into octaves of vibration. In other words, this light energy vibrates, and just like music, there are fundamentals and harmonics. The harmonics resonate with the fundamental energy vibration, and the whole energy packet sings like a choir--except its voice is light.”

“This singing, if you will, is the equivalent of a consciousness that pervades all matter--every physical object in the entire universe. Fifteen has successfully proved this all-pervasive consciousness or what he calls the Light-Encoded Reality Matrix or LERM, for those of us who like shorthand. Anyway, LERM is just one of the new theorems that was required in order to devise a way to prove that BST (Blank Slate Technology), was indeed a possibility, and not just a fanciful vision inside the mind of Fifteen.”[/color]

[color=red]Sarah: “This all-pervasive consciousness you mentioned, are you really talking about Spirit or GOD?” [/color]

[color=brown]Dr. Neruda: “Exactly.”[/color]

[color=red]Sarah: “Now you’ve really crossed over the line. You’re going to tell me that Fifteen discovered GOD. That He has proof of GOD?”[/color]

[color=brown]Dr. Neruda: “Yes, in a way, but--but GOD isn’t what we call it. It’s LERM. And Fifteen was quite emphatic that we never refer to LERM as GOD or even GOD-like. He preferred to think of LERM as the shadow of GOD. The light that casts the shadow, and the object of the shadow itself, he believes, is impossible to prove through science or any other objective form of inquiry.”[/color][/b]


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