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 Post subject: Re: Changes to WingMakers Interviews One and Two
PostPosted: Sun Mar 23, 2008 6:53 pm 
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Starduster . . . that's a fair enough answer and a commendable approach to take . . .

Whatever game we play on planet Earth, we play it according to 'free will rules'

This topic doesn't quite belong in this thread so I have created a separate thread if anyone wants to follow it up. Link - viewtopic.php?f=9&t=1490


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[[ For those who want to review the interview changes, the PDF files are now available online at the following address : http://www.wanttoknow.info/wingmakersor ... ewschanges ]]


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 Post subject: Re: Changes to WingMakers Interviews One and Two
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Can anyone direct me to James' reply to Fred as to the changes? I've tried in search but either I'm too sleepy to see it or I'm looking in the wrong places.


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Dear Fred,

Mark forwarded your email to me. With time constraints being what they are, I have answered your questions as fully as I can, and in some cases, expanded on them when I felt your questions arose from a slightly different line of inquiry. Your sincerity is appreciated and I hope you accept my answers in the spirit they are offered.

Q1: The 2001 changes introduced the concept of a superior Central Race (of which the WingMakers are supposedly a part) which can save us, of a Lyricus teaching order from this race, and of a mysterious "grand portal" leading to scientific proof of the soul. None of these concepts were part of or even mentioned on the original WingMakers website. Yet the insertion of these key concepts was among the first changes to the website. These concepts are quite different from the original WingMakers writings, which were all about opening ever more to divine wisdom from within ourselves, and about moving beyond the teacher/student ordering of the hierarchical paradigm to recognize the divine equality of all beings.

A1: The changes, or, as I would prefer to have them understood, additions, within the WingMakers site that you reference in your question exist for reasons I will describe below. They were not added to imbue a sense of external authority or artificial layering of hierarchal controls from a far-flung race of superior beings; quite the contrary I assure you. Let me start at the beginning of the mythology—though this is, I’ll dutifully inform you, the shorthand version.

The WingMakers are the future of humanity ascended into a higher dimensional, albeit human format—one that is not constrained by time and space. Within the WingMakers (or Central Race) is an organization known as the Teachers of Light and Sound, or, in the context of the WingMakers mythology, the Lyricus Teaching Order (LTO). The LTO exports its teachings to emerging, humanoid civilizations within a local universe for the purpose of activating the specie’s awareness of its grander purpose as a collective entity. This activation takes many, many forms, some recognizable and some completely invisible. Over time, as the species evolves through the second, third, and fourth dimensions, it begins to nudge against the fifth dimension, which is the time we are presently in.

There are within the human species those who operate in the second, third, and fourth dimensions as their dominant realities even today, but the Collective Consciousness is measured in ratios, and the present ratio is centered on what I will call the lower-midpoint of the fourth dimension, but this will be shifting very rapidly over the next four and half years to the higher midpoint of the fourth dimension, which is the gateway to the fifth dimension. This shift, though it may seem small in terms of degree, is actually the most radical shift since the inception of the planet. The dimensions are not logarithmic in their scope and scale, and the higher one ascends the more expansive they become.

I understand that the framework of dimensions instills a hierarchical ordering of the universe, but this is the method in which a species—in this case, humanity—ascends the spiral staircase of consciousness and ultimately unifies through the tempering of the lower dimensions so it may employ the higher dimensional capacities and capabilities as co-creators of First Source and Source Intelligence. Without this tempering, the human species would retain its quarantine from the higher frequencies of the Universal Spirit that will unite it and anoint it as co-creators. All of this applies to the species as a whole, not individuals. Individuals can operate as cocreative outposts of First Source, but if unconnected to a species-wide movement, they remain locked out of the grand design embedded in the imaginings of our Creator.

The WingMakers Materials are one of the activators that the LTO has exported to this planet at this time, designed for those within the human species who are connected to the Grand Portal discovery. Embedded within these materials are encoded data streams that are time-artifacts of the Light and Sound of First Source, stepped down into dimensional frequencies that anyone within the human family can access, if they desire. It is not that individuals cannot activate themselves, or lack the natural capacity to shift dimensionally. They can and do. The problem is that the “noise” levels are very high within the world because of the spread of consciousness from the second to the fifth dimension. In other words, the species is stretched, in a sense, across four major dimensions and this creates noise. Noise in this sense: The frequencies that are radiating from the human family (and because of human invention) are dissonant and incoherent, competing and interfering with the field of unity, which is the sub-quantum bedrock from which we all arise. Amid this noise, the signal of First Source is diminished, and sometimes indistinguishable from the noise itself.

You can think of it this way. Deep in the woods on an autumn day, if you are quiet and focused, you can hear a single leaf hit the forest floor with amazing clarity—even at a distance of 20 meters. But in the heart of the city, you will never have that experience because the ambient noise level is too high. The signals of nature are lost in the swell of mechanical inventions—sirens, buses, whirring hard disks, HVAC systems, cars, and even electromagnetic fields. If something could transport you, momentarily, from the city to the forest, and you could tune in to the subtle sounds, you would be startled at what your body can perceive.

Again, this is all about ratios. As a species approaches the fifth dimension, its variation and dimensional separation is what generates the dissonant noise field. First Source, as you can well imagine, is fully aware of this phenomenon and has established compensatory systems. One of these is to boost the signal of unity by aligning the planetary position relative to Central Sun or the galactic source of higher dimensional frequencies. This alignment is not happenstance or coincidental, it is all part of a highly orchestrated plan. The other way is to create “pockets” of coherence that provide a sober, exploratory entrance to the deeper teachings that empower the individual to activate their energetic responsibility—the transmission of their personal energy system to the benefit of their fellow creatures and the planet upon which they live.

Perhaps the compensatory system that is least understood is that of the planet itself. As an entity of consciousness, earth is dimensionally ascending according to it own plan. As the human species spreads and extends the reach of its consciousness, it signals the planet that it is time to shift dimensionally into a higher frequency field. Earth is undergoing this dimensional shift now and will complete it over the next four and half years. There is, as Hollywood coined it, the “Perfect Storm” of human consciousness spread, galactic alignment, and intentional planetary dimensional shift. This confluence of interlocking processes is, as previously stated, carefully orchestrated through Spirit or Source Intelligence.

This particular aspect (planetary shift) requires, in most cases, a parallel planet to be engineered to provide a maturing environment for those whose energetic, subatomic structures are not suited or properly conditioned for the higher dimensional frequencies in which earth is unerringly approaching. I will use an analogy to ensure clarity. Imagine that there was a group of fleas riding atop a wild dog. The dog was subject to temperature extremes, running through the brush, and a variety of other challenges—all of which favored the fleas that had conditioned themselves to hang on and adapt to the conditions present in the wilderness. Those that couldn’t hang on were mercifully placed on a domesticated dog that was appropriately pampered in a fenced, manicured yard.

Admittedly, while this is a crude analogy, it does make the point that humans are guests upon earth, and earth is indeed the host. Those unable to adapt to the frequencies of the new earth, will be gently “shuttled”, reincarnationally speaking, to a planet comparable to earth so they may progress in their own time. It is somewhat like cell division, where the human family divides into two worlds, each the “zygote” of a new species divided only by time and space, and ultimately unified when time and space recede beneath the horizon of eternity. (This is an echo of the relationship between the WingMakers and Humanity.)

The evolutionary journey of the species is set with checkpoints that typically lay as dimensional barriers. Frequency coherence is the key attribute by which a species can pass through the checkpoint and obtain a higher frequency experience of their human instrument and the planet upon which they live. The ultimate checkpoint is the Grand Portal, which stands between the higher 4th and lower 5th dimensional plane of existence.

The Grand Portal was introduced in the later works of the WingMakers as a means to depict the underlying purpose of the work. The Grand Portal signifies a shift of humanity from the 4th dimension to the 5th dimension, and while this shift is still far in the future (insofar as the human species is concerned); it will become understood by science in approximately 75 years and become the backbone of science and religion as they merge into one integrated system of experience and expression.

Thus, the additions to the WingMakers Materials were key elements pointing to the Grand Portal. They were required additions in order to aptly define the human trajectory of evolution. What you have sensed was simply the shift of emphasis from the individual rendering of the “activator” to that of the human species. When this shift was made, it appeared to change the materials, ordering them into a more hierarchical structure, but that is only a result of the introduction of the Grand Portal, which necessitated a more species-level depiction of the materials.

The role and definition of the LTO was delineated as part of the disclosure of the Grand Portal, since the LTO helps to disseminate this activating vision to the species. Again, you can argue that any organization in charge of activating a vision and mission as broad as the Grand Portal is hierarchical in nature, but I would ask you, if not the LTO, who? Who would provide this architecture of human achievement? The movement of the human family into the fifth dimension is a collective crossing; it is not the purview of any one individual, or for that matter, organization.

It is not enough for the individual to achieve cosmic consciousness while in the human instrument. To what end? To write poetry like Whitman? To espouse new philosophical insights like Plato? Or perhaps, more metaphysical elaborations like Bohm? Individuals achieve cosmic consciousness and it opens them to a finer mesh connection to the Universal Field, and they become transmitters of the ability within the human family. But the new consciousness that is now forming within the human family is not rooted in the historical insights of God or Spirit, but in an intelligence that is present in every square nanometer of space, every moment of time and every point of energy, and this consciousness is awakening inside the human instrument within all who are prepared so we can become the universal species as envisioned by the LTO.

This is not a time of individual ascension and then dutiful service to teach. Rather it is a time of unification and collective intelligence working to move the species from separatist isolationism to universal connection and awareness.

Q2: Among other major changes in 2001, I was amazed to watch the interviews section of the site change so that some parts were completely deleted, others added, and certain distances of stars mentioned were even changed. Why would anyone go to the trouble of changing the distances of the stars mentioned? If there is only one question you can answer, this is the one that is most important to me. When I compared the original interviews with the changed version, it became quite clear to me that someone was trying to hide something.

A2: There were a handful of changes made in the interviews, but I’m not sure why this would be so important to anyone, especially the type of changes you’ve referenced in your question. The simple and prosaic answer is that I created slight variations in the WingMakers Materials as a means to track them. As you’re undoubtedly aware, placing content on the web is different than a book format in the sense of the copyright controls. Within the first year of release there were several unscrupulous individuals who were packaging the WingMakers content and selling it to others. Others were not selling it, but essentially appropriating its content under their own name or brand. I was aware that this would be an attribute of using the web as a distribution center for these works, and wanted to track the permutations.

Q3: I would also point out that for the first couple years after 2001, virtually no mention was made on the website of the gradual, yet significant changes being made. Clearly significant money was supplied to create the sophisticated changes made to the website in a gradual way so that they wouldn't be easily noticed. Can you tell me where that money was coming from for all this?

A3: The projects related to WingMakers.com, Lyricus.org, and EventTemples.org are all funded 100% through the sales of the WingMakers CDs and art reproductions.

Q4: I will share honestly with you my suspicion that some highly intelligent group, which obviously has ample funds, took control and gradually changed the original website, distorting the information so that those seeking the deep WingMakers wisdom would be subtly led back towards hierarchical ways of thinking. I suspect James is the spokesperson or public face for this powerful group. The WingMakers would never have considered themselves part of a superior race or recommended following the teachings of a special order of teachers. The deepest wisdom resides within each one of us. Those of us who understood and resonated deeply with the original material knew without doubt as soon as the changes began to be implemented that the new material was of a different source.

A4: I think I have answered this question already, but to put a finer point on it, I would add that while the deepest wisdom resides within the individual, there is no one who finds it without help. There is a need to have teachers and way showers. There is a need to have activating content. There is a need to have one another to inspire the insights and fire the imagination. The Universal Field of Living Truth flows underneath each of us just as surely as water flows beneath the ice of a frozen river. But there are certain outlooks, certain perspectives, and certain techniques where the interface to the deeper truths is improved, and it is easier to break through and draw it into your life.

I can assure you that the source of the information did not change; the mission broadened, as planned, and the work reflected this.

The entire body of work will unfold and it will continue to change, and certainly not for the sake of confusing anyone or watering down the content’s truth. Rather, it will change because the mission is multidimensional. For example, the WingMakers materials resonate and activate different frequency domains of the human instrument. There are certain passages of music and poetry that are utterly without connection to the mind. The art is the same way, it activates different recesses of the heart one time and the mind another. The philosophy of Chamber 2 is very different than the Lyricus discourses, and the discourses are very different from the Event Temples e-paper entitled Living from the Heart. The animation from the Event Temples is very different than the Meditations of Time-Space DVD.

All of the content is connected to a larger plan, and if you slice it into sections and compare one section with another, you will see differences to be sure, but you may also miss the larger relationship—the larger plan—both of the content, as well as its useful service to your own life and purpose.
There is so much information in the public domain that pertains to the spiritual realms, some of it is reinforcing and resonant, but most of it is splitting and separating the consciousness of humanity. For example, today I received a letter from a young man in Sao Paulo, a partial quote follows:

“What is happening? What is it all about? This theories. This prophecies. Hollow Earth, Shamballa, Agartha, Astral Travel, Channelings, Telepathy, Nibiru, Annunaki, The Mayan Calendar, Planet X, Ashtar, The Armageddon. I'm sorry but, i don't know if i'm the only one, but i'm really lost. I Don't know what to do. Which way i should go? What should i believe? What can i do? I'm so lost. Seriously. I'm so lost.”

Now, this person is only 18 years old, so he has less life experience than some, but you can hear the confusion and frustration in his voice, and his sentiments speak for thousands, if not millions, of others. The list he cites could have been ten times longer, but the point remains: How do any of us—in the face of the separation that exists in our philosophical realm—find agreement in belief? And not only agreement, but, more importantly, a sense of confidence that we are on the right path, the path of enlightenment, and not further confusion or the distraction of half truths.

We all have access to the Living Truth within us, and yet we remain tethered to our doubts and fear-based living. This is the mirrored reflection of the spread of consciousness, that, as a collective thing, is not coherent and therefore it is not aligned to the Living Truth. Today a thousand, no, a hundred thousand writers speak their truth and share it, but the resulting picture of “truth” is a blurry mosaic that casts doubt on the human mind’s ability to define truth, let alone a path into enlightenment.

Does this mean that humanity requires a savior? Does it show evidence that the spiritual realm, as an object of knowledge, is unknowable? No, not in my opinion, but it does suggest that the six heart virtues and their everyday application and expression is a far better route to forming a spiritual purpose than the framing of words in a philosophical soup. Too much is made of the word choice instead of the behavior choice. It is through the latter that we define our truth, and this is the living truth that flows from the innermost worlds of our existence into the outermost worlds of our five senses and physical body.

We are here to be of service, and this applies to each and every one of us. Our service contribution is the energetic transmission contained in our expression of the six heart virtues, and our ability to achieve and sustain personal coherence in our daily affairs and relationships. This is the real value in the spiritual life because it does not separate with words, but rather bonds with behaviors. And it injects meaningfulness into the smallest moments of our life.

Our media and popular culture make the focus of life a quest for glamour and prestige and power and money. We are seduced by these things because they are burned so deeply into our psyche that it is near impossible to resist. But even those few who achieve these things feel lost, perhaps even more so as a result of their achievement. The thing that we desire most is meaning through the expression of our deepest purpose—not our passion, but our purpose.

So you see it does not matter if people draw from their own well and bring forward the powerful truths that live within them, because even these so-called truths, if they seek expression only in words have a shelf life of usefulness of one moment, which, as I’m sure you’ll agree, is exceedingly brief. But the expression in the behaviors of appreciation, compassion, humility, forgiveness, understanding, and valor, these leave an energetic “fragrance” that lasts forever because it entangles and resonates with the Universal Field, and Spirit reapplies this energy to the betterment of the planet and all who live upon her. In short, we need more people who apply the six heart virtues even in the most insignificant corners of their life.

I don’t say this lightly, either. I am well aware that it is not easy to outflow compassion to someone who just gave you the finger after cutting you off on the highway. It is not easy to understand why there is so much hatred surfacing between religious organizations or governments or members of the human family. It is not easy to forgive someone who wrongs you intentionally. But this is what is required of those who will assist the human family to become unified and coherent so it may knock upon the door of the Grand Portal, seeking entry into the fifth dimension as a coherent collective and not simply as a group—large as it may be—of individuals.

I hope my responses provide some measure of understanding to your questions.

From my world to yours,

James

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 Post subject: Re: Changes to WingMakers Interviews One and Two
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this must be the tenth time this letter has been posted in the forum ... there are three or more topics created around is ... so what is the point this time Nat?

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 Post subject: Re: Changes to WingMakers Interviews One and Two
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Just came across this letter from Fred Burks to James and Mark. Don't know if everyone here has read it.

http://www.gatheringspot.net/topic/wing ... wingmakers


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ziearmo wrote:
Just came across this letter from Fred Burks to James and Mark. Don't know if everyone here has read it.

http://www.gatheringspot.net/topic/wing ... wingmakers


I think we have ALL read it at least 5 times anyway. You already knew that and are playing the same childish game Christophe thrives on. You are way too obvious. :roll:

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Shay, I am playing no game thank you very much and I am amazed at your rudeness. I simply came across the letter this morning and thought I would share it. Nothing more and nothing less.I have not seen this particular letter apologising to James and Mark on the forum.


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Btw the link above is a letter from Fred Burks apologising to James and Mark. Not the one in which he asked James to answer his questions. Just so I can't be accused of re-hashing that letter which of course I was aware of.


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I think we have ALL read it at least 5 times anyway. You already knew that and are playing the same childish game Christophe thrives on. You are way too obvious. :roll:


Shay, would you be so kind as to show me where this particular letter from Fred Burks apologising to James and Mark has been posted 5 times on this forum?

Is this not a case of you jumping in judgement from your self made throne before actually going to the link I posted.

Bless you.


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For those of you who have not seen it, here is the apology part from Fred Burks:


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I owe you an apology. You may remember that back in February of 2008, both of you were gracious enough in emails to spend considerable time and energy in addressing some questions I had about changes to the original WingMakers website. Though I did my best to be supportive and non-judgmental in those communications with you, I realize now that my words definitely carried an energy of I'm right and you're wrong that you likely noticed.

Arrogance is my core challenge in this life. This most often shows up for me as judgment and a desire to be right. And for all I've worked to transform it, that arrogant part of me at times still slips out in ever more subtle ways. I went back and read what I wrote to you nearly two years ago and can see that, especially in my final email, I was more interested in proving you wrong than in opening to heart connection with you. For this, I sincerely apologize to you both. Please forgive me.


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The reason for the changes were directly stated by James, and he wanted to follow those who had taken the materials, copied them and were selling them. I have a copy of a cd on which this was done. That is the simple truth. If Fred's letters and his changes to the materials are still on his web site, then one could question the apology. If I truly now believed in the truth of the LTO work - there would be no need to question any of it, as it either resonates with you or not. If it is the not, James tells us to go else, as these energies are not for everyone.

Having read Fred's story, he seems to me he has taken the liberty to change James' work, it still goes back to the idea of Truth Telling.

I am glad a deeper understanding of the Lyricus Teaching has occurred for Fred.

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Thats because,The Book was released by accident before the Web site had gone online-a sample of the site was on a cd,that was somewhat of a face-or cover for the site. What I am saying is that I,myself recieved a copy of the Book and Cd,that came in a box to a crystal store and Washington State. That Crystal Store Nolonger is open-it was closed. I was asked personaly by heather to return the book and the cd. I wasnt able to return the Cd,because I had given it to someone -who at the time had a computer. Their was also -sample music. It is the Only book that I have ever saw that actually had-Ghostwritter on the cover of the Book. I am telling you the truth, I am not mistaken about the time. I recieved this book before the president-Clinton had been elected for a second term. It also said in the book-that it would not go online until-1998. Their was pictures,art and so on in this attachment of the cover of book. As a result of reading this Book,and resonanting with it,I expereinced Ancient Arrow-Before it had gone online to the Public.


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That is because their are people who were Looking for 15. That is the Only Reason I even Bought the Book-I recognized 15. The first thing I did was take a magnifying glass look to both 15 and another picture that had a young women in it. Why,as I have said since coming here-That I am a Dreamer,and travelar of the stars,and that I am a Experiencer/abductee. From the late 70s. I spent years conversing and looking for other expereincers,both of the Dream Matrix,and alien abduction scenerio. I was looking and listening for a sound-resonance.


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I think we have ALL read it at least 5 times anyway. You already knew that and are playing the same childish game Christophe thrives on. You are way too obvious.



Shay, would you be so kind as to show me where this particular letter from Fred Burks to James and Mark has been posted 5 times on this forum?

Is this not a case of you jumping in judgement from your self made throne before actually going to the link I posted.

Bless you.


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Shayalana, I see you have posted elsewhere today but haven't had the manners to answer my above question or indeed the good grace to apologise for your wrongful accusation. Obviously I must forgive you and try to be understanding as your rush to judgement may be a personality trait that you find hard to surrender. However I think it sad that someone who trumpets their knowledge and practice of the WMM shows such little understanding of their meaning and misses such fundamentals as blessing rather than judging.

I again post my request in the hope that I will receive an answer from you. If you refuse to do so then please don't respond to anything I should post in future if it's clothed in your ego, negative projection or simply ignorance. It's difficult enough to try practise the six heart virtues in daily life without having to deal with blatant and misguided mud throwing by a fellow practitioner.

I hope you don't conveniently fail to see this.

Have a great weekend.

P.S I would like to reiterate that the letter I referred to above is not the request from Fred Burks to James re the changes to the interviews, but a more recent one in which he apologises among other things that I thought may be interesting for those who hadn't come across it. Again if it was posted somewhere on this forum, I apologise but when I put the link into search nothing came up to that effect.


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Some of us have other things to do besides have to reply to you when you think I should. Understand that because you rarely come to the forum and usually don't bother to check a lot of what has occurred here since your last visit, it is easy enough to be repetitive in posting what has been posted many times before or like beating a dead horse. Good to see that Fred has shown his sincerity in correcting what he found to be his own arrogance. That being said, its gotten really old this trying to nit pick and prove what's wrong with the WMM or justify someone else's behavior in not respecting the purpose of the WMM. There are enough distractions and diversions , as Darlene said, if you don't resonate then go elsewhere where you find more resonance. It is as simple as that, either you resonate or you don't . Act accordingly. These materials are not for everyone. As to your forgiveness its accepted . Only thing is I don't see the point of it. Perhaps, you need to forgive yourself for your judgments and arrogance? Bless you brother and may you find your place of resonance when you find it inside of you. Others disapproval or approval really are not important. There is no political correctness here. Are you aware of the Living Truth paper? :wink:

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PostPosted: Sun Jun 06, 2010 6:11 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Changes to WingMakers Interviews One and Two
PostPosted: Mon Jun 07, 2010 7:23 am 
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Every day we grow closer and more Unified.......this just another step along the way....letting go important.....Lightens the load which allows us to raise higher.....where the perspective of what is going on ...is easier to see.....if there is anger rage or arrogance in your posts a sure sign that the Animus are fueling the fire which " needs" a detached" impersonal outlook to control its energy.....and the Truth is every one on this path is going to be tested by them....no one is going to not be....as it is in the testing that First Source gathers the knowledge to move them along....if you think you are immune....their brainwashing is working...becoming aware of their presence in your every day life is to be welcomed....fearing them gives your power away....let them in...reverse the polarity...and allow First Source not them to be in charge.......what is interesting is they the Animus are so smooth....they can mimic almost perfectly..Creator...but as they have no Heart...their words might sound 100 % but are not as there is no Compassion behind them.....all mind no Heart makes them not alive.


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 Post subject: Re: Changes to WingMakers Interviews One and Two
PostPosted: Tue Jun 08, 2010 8:36 am 
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Thanks Shay, I have just re-read The Living Truth paper. I don't know if I understand it fully yet but it felt good :)


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 Post subject: Re: Changes to WingMakers Interviews One and Two
PostPosted: Sat Mar 26, 2011 7:35 am 
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starduster wrote:
this must be the tenth time this letter has been posted in the forum ... there are three or more topics created around is ... so what is the point this time Nat?


Had he not posted it here, I would propably never read it, along with few or more others.

What is the problem with it being posted more than once ?


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 Post subject: Re: Changes to WingMakers Interviews One and Two
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I do not have a problem with things posting more then once.....this below is a repeat .....always worth watching.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1i-L3YTeJJM


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 Post subject: Re: Changes to WingMakers Interviews One and Two
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Urahara wrote:
starduster wrote:
this must be the tenth time this letter has been posted in the forum ... there are three or more topics created around is ... so what is the point this time Nat?


Had he not posted it here, I would propably never read it, along with few or more others.

What is the problem with it being posted more than once ?



not a thing if you are paying for the broadband eh? ... do you contribute to the upkeep of this forum .... didn't think so .

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