What you experience with psychedelics, depends on the context with which you view them. Also, the research strongly suggests that the use of "clean" (not mixed with any other drug such as alcohol, etc.), in controlled situations does not produce "bad" "trips". However, the psychedelic has to be "clean" and not mixed with any other drug.

yes, this is exactaly what I am saying... and the only way to insure that the substance you are taking is not "mixed" or altered is to take it in its NATURAL form... the way the Creator intended it to be used.

I am not advocating the use of drugs to enhance one's consciousness... I believe the time for that is past...and that the WMMs suggest a far better "proven way" to "alter" one's mind so that they are able to comprehend "higher intelligence" being shared by the Spirit Entity. And what they suggest is not just a temporary glimpse but a permant fix, as long as we do not damage our own antenna that is formed by these newly activated DNA structures...and it is being done of our own free will as a form of "self-creation" that is aligned with the natural evolution of the species.

you are not going to get that from any pill or plant...that is a designed event string of FS.

Shayalana hello, How does someone retreive Christ Consciousness when they have not lost Christ Consciousness? One can not retreive something they already have had,unless somewhere along this journey of life,they lost their truth,or their knowledge about Christ. This is somewhere inbetween the ancient arrow project book and than the AB perhaps,and than that would put someone along the road or pathway of the journey as a Mid-wayer. Ones truth about their belief is challenged. Can you please in your own words,explain to me in the audiance the purpose for retreiving Christ Consciousness? Yours truely,Amused Zoa.

Hi zoa! Few have actually achieved Christ Consciousness , and those that have are no longer in this dimension. However, for what those few have given to humanity for what they went through to be called Christs it has made it easier for the rest of those who are interested in doing the same. For instance, Yeshua ben Joseph showed that death is an illusion and that we don't die. That is quite the feat of deprogramming oneself from the conditioned thinking of most other humans on this planet who have bought the concept of death hook, line and sinker and age and degenerate their bodies to follow suit. We don't have to put our bodies through that and do because we never questioned why. For those that do it is a very different reality they discover and LIVE.

Christ consciousness is a process.

If one is a fragment of FS,and has the Intelligence of the spirit of the consciouness of FS,the consciousness is a Entity of FS. This Entity is a spirit Soul,and is animated by Ones own Life Force Energy. Christ=Life Force Energy,and this is a Intelligence. If everyone on this planet,no matter ones religion or anything else has a Life force Energy,an in order to be alive,walking around on planet Earth right Now,how than could it be that their are still people alive on Earth, and also be here Now on this dimension of Earth?

"Teacher: Think of the multiverse as eleven holographic spheres of consciousness, each interpenetrating the one that is more inward. Only the outer sphere contains all spheres, and this is the consciousness of First Source, while the innermost sphere is the consciousness of inanimate objects like a stone or seashell. Love is separated into frequencies that resonate in harmony with each of these “spheres” or domains of consciousness. Similarly, the heart itself consists of different layers of consciousness, and each “layer” has an intelligence of perception and expression. This intelligence is linked to the brain and higher mind, so that the human instrument is capable of expressing from any dominant frequency or sphere of the multiverse.

Student: Including the level of First Source?

Teacher: Yes."

(L d.6)


"The orientation that humanity is emerging from the relative darkness of the 3rd dimension to the 4th dimension is a misconception of the modern-day New Age movement. Humanity evolves to embrace the multiverse, and as it evolves it discovers that its superuniverse is accessible to the human mind in ways that defy logic. This is the stage upon which humanity is entering, and it is not to ascend in a vibratory epiphany to a higher dimension, but rather it is to interact with a broader multiverse of intelligence that heretofore has only been imagined by a handful of humanity's finest representatives.

Humanity will remain in the 3rd dimension, but will increasingly become aware of the higher dimensions while living in the 3rd dimension, even as First Source, its creator, does. First Source lives in the 3rd dimension, but is simultaneously aware of itself throughout the spectrum of the multiverse, and through Source Intelligence, is aware of all life forms in all dimensions. Humanity will ultimately access this same perspective by applying the Grand Portal as a "lens" through which it can gain admission to First Source consciousness. First Source -- in this specific example -- is less God than the archetype of the Wholeness Navigator."

(Question 10) http://www.wingmakers.com/jamesqa2.html

You ask some great questions Zoa, I feel, that perhaps, you have some wondeful answers too.

perhaps the answer is in the fact that while FS "fragmented" ITself, IT did not fragment ITself completely... in other words, there was a large piece of IT left.


In the FS Transmission section, FS reveals that IT has a personal representative (CHRIST?) in each Universe IT has (collectively) created... and that we could think of these "others" as limbs on a body...head, arms, legs, ... all being connected at the Heart (of Hearts)

The Grand Portal is also defined as "Christ Consciousness"
Jesus (the christed one) revealed that "the Kingdom of God" is withIN each of us...and the WMMs are assisting us to "reconnect" with "Christ Consciousness" and the goal of the WMMs is WHOLENESS... when all the "fragments" are "glued" together or made "coherent" through truth.

Yes,Starduster I can read the Quote. Personafied ,represent,would be those from the White Brotherhood of Light. Although Christ has been used as describing the Grand-Portal,as from the language used-It is called Cosmic Consciousness. Their isnt really anything to represent when it isnt personafied. One represents their own life force energy,and in most cases this is seen as negative or possitive,moving from one side of the snake river to the other,riding the serpent. More along the line of self examination of ones behaviours and their attitudes towards others,from some kind of prejustice. Basically the one thing that ties all humans is this Ancestorial Father or Spirit of Intelligence that is Prompted from within to action,and self diagnosis. Assuming that one is able and welling to see what they do mirror back to themself as a spiritual person,and can walk out of the cave of issolation,and be witness to the energy that they put out,send out into the cosmos. Another words harnesting and getting ahold of ones own reigns of their own chariot.

I knew you had an answer of your own, Zoa...

Lets end this thread for we are venturing into a wilderness unknown and with no past to bind it.

the materials say that Jesus was not the representative of Christ Consciousness here... so, Zoar, who is? ... It also says that Christ Consciousness (SIP) only was possible from 1998 and on ... so, makes sense to me, that very few would have a real grasp on what experiencing it is (much less expressing) ... doesn't seem to me to be something that you can just pick up (learned behavior) either, so I imagine we are "inventing" our own way of expressing it... and why maybe the LTO felt the need to define it... which turns out, isn't much like what the HMS has associated with those words ... and perhaps why so few recognize it when it is expressed with a deeper meaning than that which we recognize by looking briefly in the mirror...maybe we need to visit the Heart for a clearer understanding ... because it isn't a judge.

I don't understand why anyone would see Christ Consciousnes as anything that needed to be controlled... It really isn't your's - you are just letting it flow through you and not altering it with a pre conceived notion of what you believe it should be doing for others when it was designed for everyone to experience personally, not just the members of some brotherhood or lodge

History is bogus with its ulterior motives.

yes, as we are becoming aware of the "winners" of wars, rewrite history to make themselves look like the good guys ... after killing millions of innocent people - raping, plundering and demanding that these "loosers" adopt a culture that is little better, and sometimes worse than what they had.

I was shocked when I once read a "history" book (World History by HG Wells) for HS students that written before WWII that was totally different from what I was taught in school except for significant dates... with the anthropologist making it up as they go along, history is so perverted only time travel will straighten it out