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I love knowing this generation exists , the one that used to be called 'generation X', look what some of them are doing now. I love people who walk their talk. I love people who are examples of open hearts so therefore open minds too.How beautiful.:)

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This is so beautiful!

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And by the way to all of you Canadians out there; Happy Thanksgiving!!!
There is so very much to appreciate. How strange it seems to us westerners that the Europeans don't really know about this North American thanksgiving tradition. interesting though it is that it was grateful Europeans having survived the rigors of these western shores who started this. How wonderful in terms of appreciation, one of the six virtues taught.:)

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For good ol moonz.:)


Swami Calls For An Up-Wising - Wise Up,
>
>Everybody The Evolution Has Begun
>
>By Swami Beyondananda
>8-23-6
>
>
>
>For years now, we've been hearing "shift happens," and wondering when,
>where and how. Now finally, it looks as if the shift is about to hit
the
>fan. This is good news for all those shift fans who've been wondering
if
>the new age will arrive before old age does.
>
>
>
>Of course, if you're looking for signs in the news, you won't find
them. At
>least, not yet. The news might as well be called the "olds," because
the
>world still seems stuck in gridlock, ruled by fossilized fools fueled
by
>fossil fuels. But I have been receiving encouraging intelligence
reports
>that say indeed, humans are becoming more intelligent. Yes, people
>everywhere are wising up. And that's great, because we could sure use
an
>up-wising!
>
>
>
>The evolution has begun. But before we see changes in the old
needy-greedy,
>we humans must change our consciousness -- and the first step is
becoming
>conscious of how unconscious we've been. As the saying goes, the truth
>shall upset you free, and last year saw lots of disillusionment. But
what
>better to free us from the far more dangerous condition of
illusionment? If
>we want to stop the abuse of power, the first step is to disabuse
>ourselves.
>
>
>
>So, here's some good news: Despite a massive media I machine that
feeds the
>public "babblum" (strained bullshit made digestible for a simple
child's
>mind), more and more Americans are reading between the ly ins' and
peering
>behind the Irony Curtain.
>
>
>
>In 2005, Americans had to face the sad realization that the Bush
>Administration's "pro-life" stance appears to be limited to the unborn
and
>the brain-dead. Despite being panned by critics everywhere, the Iraqi
>Horror Picture Show continued its run, as thousands and thousands of
born
>fetuses - ours and theirs -- lost their right to life.
>
>
>
>While we may or may not have saved our face by staying there, we have
most
>definitely lost our ass. And we've been assured we'll be stuck in that
>morass until -- well, until there's no more ass to lose. Meanwhile,
more
>and more Americans reached another sad conclusion: We're not in Iraq
to
>keep the peace, we're there to keep the pieces.
>
>
>
>The signs of up-wising are everywhere. Even the most unpleasant
stories are
>beginning to break through the soundless barrier and defy the
President's
>"don't ask, don't tell" policy: "You promise not to ask us what we're
>doing, and we promise not to tell you." Although we've been inundated
with
>"fear-gnomes" and ominously warned we have to protect ourselves in
this
>dogma-eat-dogma world, a majority of Americans are no longer
comfortable
>with the notion that the only way to defeat the "evil-doers" in the
world
>is to out evil-do them.
>
>
>
>Although our President has assured us that "we don't torture," it is
now
>common knowledge that we simply send detainees to countries that do
torture
>when we want them to "testify under oaf." As for those progressives
who've
>been whining that the President "never listens" to them, well it turns
out
>he's been listening all along. And thanks to the so-called Patriot Act
>(which, I understand, is about to be renamed the Eternal Insecurity
Act),
>it looks like he'll be able to listen in even more -- all in the name
of
>making us safe. But now even some Republicans are beginning to see
that
>there's a difference between protection and the "protection racket."
>
>
>
>And with the recent revelations about Tom DeLay, Jack Abramoff and
other
>gold collar criminals, some of the more devout conservatives have come
to
>realize that the "family values" they voted for bear an uncanny
resemblance
>to Soprano Family values. If there was any warm feeling in 2005, chalk
it
>up to climate change. Katrina hit, and in the government's response we
saw
>a future when at last all Americans will be equal -- where everyone
>regardless of race or creed will be treated like Black folks. Alarming
>Policies Have Awakened Millions!
>
>
>
>Fortunately, this is the State of the Universe Address, and from a
>universal perspective, things are humming along quite nicely. It turns
out
>that the Earth is the talk of the Universe these days. In fact, the
>odds-makers at the Intergalactic Enquirer say the odds are actually in
our
>favor: "We're betting on the human race to reach critical mass before
they
>get to critical massacre." And we could beat the odds, if we finally
gave
>up our addiction to getting even and got odd instead.
>
>
>
>It stands to reason. If each of us used our unique oddness to improve
the
>odds for everyone, there would be no need for getting even. Yes, the
>up-wising has begun, and intergalactic observers are saying that we
have
>none other than George W. Bush to thank. How is that, you may ask?
Well, I
>am reminded of a story my guru Harry Cohen Baba used to tell. A
well-known
>minister died and arrived at the Pearly Gates at the same time as a
>cab-driver from New York. The cabbie was ushered in, but the clergyman
was
>left waiting outside. After waiting and waiting and waiting, he
finally
>called over the attending angel. "Excuse me, but I'm a renowned
minister.
>How come you let that cab-driver in, and I'm left waiting out here?"
>"Well," the angel said, "when you preached, everyone slept. But when
he
>drove, everyone prayed."
>
>
>
>For millennia, spiritual teachers have been calling on us to go for
the
>highest common denominator, but we've always seemed to end up with the
>lowest common dominator instead. And now, George W. Bush has done what
>preachers, teachers and other far-sighted visionaries have failed to
do up
>until now: His policies have been so alarming, that he has awakened a
>slumbering body politic that slept through all previous alarms. Where
>others have failed, he has people all across the world praying, "God
help
>us!" And instead of waiting for an intervention from above -- after
all, we
>cannot expect to be fed intervenously forever -- people are beginning
to
>help themselves, and even more importantly, help each other.
>
>
>
>Sure, there are still plenty of Not-Sees out there who insist on not
seeing
>that we humans are all in the same boat. The good news is, more and
more
>Americans are getting that sinking feeling that there's only one
Earthship,
>and ignoring a leak because it's "on the other side of the boat," is a
>mistake of titanic proportions. We Are the Leaders We've Been Waiting
For
>America, the world's only super-power, doesn't need a revolution.
We've
>already had one, thank you.
>
>
>
>What is needed now -- and what has already begun -- is the American
>Evolution where enough of us wake up and see that those two political
>parties have been partying on our dime, and we the people haven't been
>invited. Time to go beyond choosing the lesser of two weasels. If we
want
>to evolve the dream of our Founding Fathers -- instead of devolve into
the
>nightmare of Big Brother -- we must become the leaders we've been
waiting
>for. I've said it before. The only force more powerful than a
super-power
>is a Super-Duper Power -- the power of the people plus the power of
love.
>
>
>
>And anyone who doesn't believe we are a Super-Duper Power, well they
have
>been super-duped! It's true, many people still feel that the affairs
of the
>world should be left to the bolder and badder among us. But look what
that
>leaves us with: Are you satisfied choosing between Saddam Hussein and
>George Who's-Not-Sane? Now I know those "God, guns and guts" Old
Testament
>Christians might have forgotten, but Jesus did say that the meek shall
>inherit the earth.
>
>
>
>In all undue immodesty, maybe it's time for us meek folks to boldly
step
>forth and accept our inheritance. For just as 2000 years ago Jesus
stood up
>to a class that placed the rule of gold above the Golden Rule, today
we
>face the modern version of the Pharisees -- the Phallusees, I think
they
>are called. They cynically cloak themselves in religious robes, but
the
>only power they trust is the power of the stick.
>
>
>
>Well, there's another old saying: It doesn't matter how big your stick
is,
>if you stick your stick where it doesn't belong, you're stuck.
>
>
>
>Another sign of the up-wising and coming evolution is that people are
>growing dissatisfied with the positionality of "my side vs. your
side," and
>are seeing the whole issue of sides from a new angle: Maybe we're all
on
>the same side.
>
>
>
>For example, this argument between creationism and evolution is just
>another way for dueling dualities to steal our energy. I believe in
both. I
>believe the Creator created us to evolve, otherwise Jesus would have
said,
>"Now don't do a thing till I return." I have it on good authority that
the
>Creator is pulling for us: "Come on, you children of God. Time to grow
up
>and become adults of God instead."
>
>
>
>Time to Overgrow the System From the Grassroots Up. The time for
revolution
>and overthrowing has past. Now we need an evolution where we
"overgrow" the
>current dysfunctional system from the grassroots up.
>
>
>
>You are probably familiar with the story of the Native American
grandfather
>who tells his grandson that there are two wolves fighting inside all
of us:
>The wolf of fear and anger, and the wolf of love and peace. "Which
wolf
>will win?" asks the young boy. "Whichever one we feed," replies the
>grandfather. And so when people ask me to predict what will happen, I
tell
>them the only thing I can predict with certainty is the uncertainty of
any
>prediction. The future's just too unpredictable these days. This is a
>Universe of infinite possibilities, so it all depends on which futures
we
>invest in.
>
>
>
>There is something far more empowerful than predictions, and that is
>Tell-A-Vision. If you're fed up with the current programming, my
advice is
>turn off your TV and tell a vision instead. That way, we will have
healing
>and functional visions to step into -- and that beats what we've been
>stepping into.
>
>
>
>So I will tell my vision for 2006: This is the year of the American
>Evolution, where all those who prefer the Golden Rule to the rule of
gold
>get past left and right, and come front and center. I see Americans of
all
>political stripes, plaids and polka dots (not to mention solids),
choosing
>to face the music and dance together. Sure, we'll have to learn some
new
>steps, but it's time for a new dance - A-Bun-Dance.
>
>
>
>That is where we get up off our assets, move our buns, and dance
together
>in rhythm and flow. And what better way to turn the funk into
function, and
>leave the junk at the junction? I see us in a new reality show --
Extreme
>Planetary Makeover -- where everyone can play and everyone can win.
>
>
>
>Just think. Something more compelling than reality TV ... it's called
>reality! I know, I know. Only a crazy person would dare to propose
anything
>that sane. But maybe it's time to declare the current
institutionalized
>insanity illegally insane, and set about building a sane asylum big
enough
>for all six and a half billion of us. As my guru Harry Cohen Baba has
said,
>"Life is like a good deli. Even if something isn't on the menu, if
enough
>people order it they have to make it."
>
>
>
>So what kind of new world order are we ordering up? Do we feed the
wolf of
>fear and buy into the "it's every man for himself" story? Or do we
nourish
>the wolf of love and evolve into the "we're all in it together" story?
If
>we're going to be a Super-Duper Power, we have to be super-duper
powerful
>in activating the power of love, and cultivating the power of joy.
>
>
>
>So laugh more. Why not? We all know there's something funny going on.
The
>wall of lies cannot withstand the vibration of laughter. All
seriousness
>aside, only a farce field that combines truth and laughter can bring
down
>the Irony Curtain once and for all.
>
>
>
>Release the old story -- been there, done that -- and speak the new
story
>into the world. Dare to imagine what we could be doing if we weren't
>spending so much of our livelihood on weapons of deadlihood.
>
>
>
>Think about it ... think tanks where they think about something other
than
>tanks. Young people living for their country instead of dying for it.
>Health and education fully funded, and the Air Force having to run a
bake
>sale so they can buy a new bomber. Can we change the course of
history? Can
>we shift our karma into surpassing gear? I cannot say for sure, but if
we
>choose to give up that old Dodge and trade it in for an Evolvo, that's
a
>good first step.
>
>
>
>So ... let the Evolution begin. We don't have to wait until the first
Big
>Shot is fired. If we create a powerful enough field, the Big Shots
will end
>up firing themselves.
>
>
>
>May the FARCE -- as always -- be with us.
>
>
>
>***Be THERE now!
>
>...and so it is!
>
>

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Hahahahaha Shay...........;)

Ya..., 'Swami's Beyondasandabox' is a fun place to play.!! (I think I know what the Swami has been smokin' though...) Sometimes it does give rise to the thought that my musings aren't lost in the ethers after all...:P:P
He's kind of a 'grim n' grin' sort of a fellow. Aren't we all..? ;)

But this is the 'unity' thread..., not the 'funity' one. (although it could be...)

My take on 'unity' is the continuity of the U in I and the I in U of IT. No reason to ask the 'Y's of IT....IT just [b]IS[/b].....:):):)

An interesting thought from 'CWG'...., ''In the absence of that which you are not..., that which you are, is not.'' Not necessarily to mean that one has to experience 'disunity' to appreciate 'unity'..., but it does seem to come together that way. That's when the 'funification' kicks in.....:D


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Hey moonz I'm glad you enjoyed it! It really is about unity you know ,especially when united in laughter! This is in appreciation of you and your wonder-ful style of expression. I haven't told you before how much I appreciate it and when I read the swami I thought of you and how similar you two can be. There is no absence or is that absolutes?Thanks!:):D

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Awwww Shay.., thanks for the kind words. :)

I guess until we all get a little more cosmic relief..., we have to settle for a little comic relief in the meanwhile.

Haha.., you did leave me a bit of 'hanging chad'der fodder though........

''[b]There is no absence or is that absolutes?[/b]''

Makes me think that in the (perceived) absence of the Absolute, we are left to play in our own 'theories of relativity'.., (or our 'sanandaboxes' if you will...) to become 'ethereally reverant and relevant'.
Another way of saying that 'gratitude' leads to 'gladitude'.

I can fathom 'unity' becoming 'oneity'. One itty bitty entity atta time......:)

Hahaha.... 'fragments' of First Source could be said to be 'potent entities'. Sort of makes all of us '[b]port[/b]enti[b]al[/b] potentities'.

Now..., let me illustrate just how it goes in the sandbox here sometimes. A 'fragment' can be a 'component'. As seriously sentient entities, we naturally strive to be 'competent components'. Me thinks we strive too hard at times, to be important and 'potent components', that we experience becoming 'impotentities', or 'incompetentities' instead......;)

Who knows? Maybe our 'common sen(se)tienceness' will lead to uncommon intunification.

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I like the comic relief bit for I have found when I can laugh, or hell, when I DO laugh at myself then I don't try too hard or take myself too seriously which has been a serious bane on my part at times. Not that I am totally insignificant yet not so significant that I rule. Interesting that a few projections have reached me about that aspect in particular. What I find especially interesting about that is that every one of us rules our own perceptions and whatever those consist of will determine the acuracy or not, of the truth of what we see. :P:);):D:cool:

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Hey moonz this still REALLY is about unity, trust me would ya.;)

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great message in GiaField, Shay, thanks for sharing that...yes, I can feel the future calling...like mom, for dinner, we are all going home.

will there ever be peace on earth? one can hope and dream

or "make it so"

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[color=olive]I have also been feeling/exploring these "['portential potentities']"...... more intensely this week...

To be the portal we seek in the world....:)

We all seem to be these spinning vortexes of inter-dimensional energy flowing FSI into the world of Space/ Time.....creating these vortex fields around us......at the center of our merkaba sits the God fragment... the doorway/connection point of the soul.

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(a slice of what we really look like)....[/color] [/i]



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nice artform...yes, it capture the way I am "feeling"... thanks for sharing this "vision" of wholeness. :)

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[quote][i]Originally posted by Shayalana[/i]
The most obvious eludes us. If we are to talk in terms of expanding consciousness in particular and if one thinks that that is possible if not required, then no hierarchy can exist in that persons eyes except for what that person determines. However, if one constantly looks outside of themselves for approval and verification for what they say and believe in, than some hierarchy somewhere will play that role for the verification, and to them it exists. We cannot say how it is for anyone else because whatever they believe in they will see... somehow. For those who claim no beliefs, perhaps this is true, an observing where they come from for whatever they say will reveal this. In other words the role of the observer and whether conscious to them or not, will determine what the reality of the observer consists of. This we all have in common and our individual and some common realities show this in terms of consensus realities and each makes for different timelines to be lived out accordingly or until a different choice is made , even if in an expansion of the overview. Quantum physics really is worth studying in terms of understanding the role of the observer in creating individual realities and those who are the greatest at this, convince others of the same reality or help them to see it as they see it. So truly, what is unity? [/quote]


It's important to separate the conceit of the Wingmakers saga (suggestions on politics, globalization, command structures, etc.) from philosophical debate. It's this confusion of ideas that leads people around in circles on the WM forums (among other places) until they notice the circular logic and inapplicability of the concepts to daily life.


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since "All that IS" or Cosmology covers it all it is hard to separate (fragment) the discussions... since this is our nature...to focus on one tiny detail at a time...we tend to bleed over in the topics

IMO it is all philosophy...and not absolute....but the website is set up to emcompass them all...in "real-time"... enjoy!

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[quote][i]Originally posted by real42[/i]
It's important to separate the conceit of the Wingmakers saga (suggestions on politics, globalization, command structures, etc.) from philosophical debate. It's this confusion of ideas that leads people around in circles on the WM forums (among other places) until they notice the circular logic and inapplicability of the concepts to daily life. [/quote]

[b][u]Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation[/u]


From the Resonant Resurrections Dept: This wise little version of "Cover-ups for Dummies" has been floating on the Net since the late '90s at least. Given the government/media handling of 9/11, the resulting wars, and recent electoral fraud it often seems our top officials must read it everyday. If we're to bring the truth alive in 2005, it may help to occasionally remind ourselves how the pros play the game. - Editor

Note: The first rule and last five (or six, depending on situation) rules are generally not directly within the ability of the traditional disinfo artist to apply. These rules are generally used more directly by those at the leadership, key players, or planning level of the criminal conspiracy or conspiracy to cover up.
1. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. Regardless of what you know, don't discuss it -- especially if you are a public figure, news anchor, etc. If it's not reported, it didn't happen, and you never have to deal with the issues.

2. Become incredulous and indignant. Avoid discussing key issues and instead focus on side issues which can be used show the topic as being critical of some otherwise sacrosanct group or theme. This is also known as the "How dare you!" gambit.

3. Create rumor mongers. Avoid discussing issues by describing all charges, regardless of venue or evidence, as mere rumors and wild accusations. Other derogatory terms mutually exclusive of truth may work as well. This method works especially well with a silent press, because the only way the public can learn of the facts are through such "arguable rumors". If you can associate the material with the Internet, use this fact to certify it a "wild rumor" which can have no basis in fact.

4. Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponent's argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues.

5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary attack the messenger ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as "kooks", "right-wing", "liberal", "left-wing", "terrorists", "conspiracy buffs", "radicals", "militia", "racists", "religious fanatics", "sexual deviates", and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.

6. Hit and Run. In any public forum, make a brief attack of your opponent or the opponent position and then scamper off before an answer can be fielded, or simply ignore any answer. This works extremely well in Internet and letters-to-the-editor environments where a steady stream of new identities can be called upon without having to explain criticism reasoning -- simply make an accusation or other attack, never discussing issues, and never answering any subsequent response, for that would dignify the opponent's viewpoint.

7. Question motives. Twist or amplify any fact which could so taken to imply that the opponent operates out of a hidden personal agenda or other bias. This avoids discussing issues and forces the accuser on the defensive.

8. Invoke authority. Claim for yourself or associate yourself with authority and present your argument with enough "jargon" and "minutiae" to illustrate you are "one who knows", and simply say it isn't so without discussing issues or demonstrating concretely why or citing sources.

9. Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues with denial they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect.

10. Associate opponent charges with old news. A derivative of the straw man usually, in any large-scale matter of high visibility, someone will make charges early on which can be or were already easily dealt with. Where it can be foreseen, have your own side raise a straw man issue and have it dealt with early on as part of the initial contingency plans. Subsequent charges, regardless of validity or new ground uncovered, can usually them be associated with the original charge and dismissed as simply being a rehash without need to address current issues -- so much the better where the opponent is or was involved with the original source.

11. Establish and rely upon fall-back positions. Using a minor matter or element of the facts, take the "high road" and "confess" with candor that some innocent mistake, in hindsight, was made -- but that opponents have seized on the opportunity to blow it all out of proportion and imply greater criminalities which, "just isn't so." Others can reinforce this on your behalf, later. Done properly, this can garner sympathy and respect for "coming clean" and "owning up" to your mistakes without addressing more serious issues.

12. Enigmas have no solution. Drawing upon the overall umbrella of events surrounding the crime and the multitude of players and events, paint the entire affair as too complex to solve. This causes those otherwise following the matter to begin to loose interest more quickly without having to address the actual issues.

13. Alice in Wonderland Logic. Avoid discussion of the issues by reasoning backwards with an apparent deductive logic in a way that forbears any actual material fact.

14. Demand complete solutions. Avoid the issues by requiring opponents to solve the crime at hand completely, a ploy which works best for items qualifying for rule 10.

15. Fit the facts to alternate conclusions. This requires creative thinking unless the crime was planned with contingency conclusions in place.

16. Vanishing evidence and witnesses. If it does not exist, it is not fact, and you won't have to address the issue.

17. Change the subject. Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works especially well with companions who can "argue" with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues.

18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you can't do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how "sensitive they are to criticism".

19. Ignore proof presented, demand impossible proofs. This is perhaps a variant of the "play dumb" rule. Regardless of what material may be presented by an opponent in public forums, claim the material irrelevant and demand proof that is impossible for the opponent to come by (it may exist, but not be at his disposal, or it may be something which is known to be safely destroyed or withheld, such as a murder weapon). In order to completely avoid discussing issues may require you to categorically deny and be critical of media or books as valid sources, deny that witnesses are acceptable, or even deny that statements made by government or other authorities have any meaning or relevance.

20. False evidence. Whenever possible, introduce new facts or clues designed and manufactured to conflict with opponent presentations as useful tools to neutralize sensitive issues or impede resolution. This works best when the crime was designed with contingencies for the purpose, and the facts cannot be easily separated from the fabrications.

21. Call a Grand Jury, Special Prosecutor, or other empowered investigative body. Subvert the (process) to your benefit and effectively neutralize all sensitive issues without open discussion. Once convened, the evidence and testimony are required to be secret when properly handled. For instance, if you own the prosecuting attorney, it can insure a Grand Jury hears no useful evidence and that the evidence is sealed an unavailable to subsequent investigators. Once a favorable verdict (usually, this technique is applied to find the guilty innocent, but it can also be used to obtain charges when seeking to frame a victim) is achieved, the matter can be considered officially closed.

22. Manufacture a new truth. Create your own expert(s), group(s), author(s), leader(s) or influence existing ones willing to forge new ground via scientific, investigative, or social research or testimony which concludes favorably. In this way, if you must actually address issues, you can do so authoritatively.

23. Create bigger distractions. If the above does not seem to be working to distract from sensitive issues, or to prevent unwanted media coverage of unstoppable events such as trials, create bigger news stories (or treat them as such) to distract the multitudes.

24. Silence critics. If the above methods do not prevail, consider removing opponents from circulation by some definitive solution so that the need to address issues is removed entirely. This can be by their death, arrest and detention, blackmail or destruction of their character by release of blackmail information, or merely by proper intimidation with blackmail or other threats.

25. Vanish. If you are a key holder of secrets or otherwise overly illuminated and you think the heat is getting too hot, to avoid the issues, vacate the kitchen. [/b]

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chuckle...these tactics are now being adopted by the Pentagon...they have allocated $3 billion anually, to 100 K operatives to infiltrate the internet and get their propaganda out.

http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/front/4297464.html

little do they know, that these "pr reps" stick out like a sore thumb, using these out dated tactics, and they run the risk of loosing this war (too) as these mercinaries (with aliegance to money only) are sent into the ranks of the intelligent...the odds are great that they will be "converted" by the truth.

[Edited on 31-10-2006 by starduster]

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real42, forgive me, but I really need you to explain this statement :

"It's important to separate the conceit of the Wingmakers saga (suggestions on politics, globalization, command structures, etc.) from philosophical debate. It's this confusion of ideas that leads people around in circles on the WM forums (among other places) until they notice the circular logic and inapplicability of the concepts to daily life. "

What conceit?from what and whose philosophical debate? And after you have answered the first two questions whose confusion? Yours? How would you know that what is given here in the WMM is unapplicable to ones daily life? Or is it yours that they don't apply too because of your choice not to do so? You are so totally allowed your choices why do you debate others choices when they really don't harm you in any way?

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seed what a wonderful picture it is very similar to the picture of the resonant beat of the heart in ones body and the awesome field produced around the body because of it. It is a donut or torus shape.

[Edited on 2-11-2006 by Shayalana]

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Unity, hmmm lets look at dictionary definitions they are always a source of amusement: This is from the Merriam-Webster online version...

unity
One entry found for unity.


Main Entry: uni·ty
Pronunciation: 'yü-n&-tE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -ties
Etymology: Middle English unite, from Anglo-French unité, from Latin unitat-, unitas, from unus one -- more at ONE
1 a : the quality or state of not being multiple : ONENESS b (1) : a definite amount taken as one or for which 1 is made to stand in calculation <in a table of natural sines the radius of the circle is regarded as unity> (2) : IDENTITY ELEMENT
2 a : a condition of harmony : ACCORD b : continuity without deviation or change (as in purpose or action)
3 a : the quality or state of being made one : UNIFICATION b : a combination or ordering of parts in a literary or artistic production that constitutes a whole or promotes an undivided total effect; also : the resulting singleness of effect or symmetry and consistency of style and character
4 : a totality of related parts : an entity that is a complex or systematic whole
5 : any of three principles of dramatic structure derived by French classicists from Aristotle's Poetics and requiring a play to have a single action represented as occurring in one place and within one day
6 capitalized : a 20th century American religious movement that emphasizes spiritual sources of health and prosperity

Obviously this doesn't answer the question! I think what you are getting at is the concept of unity in multiplicity. If you are in doubt of the amusement factor of dictionaries look up foreigner in the OED!!!


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[quote] [i]Obviously this doesn't answer the question![/quote]




[color=olive] [i]sure it does...... a condition of harmony.... a totality of related parts, an entity that is a complex or systematic whole.

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Well there ya go, I started this thread about unity some years ago and forgot I did. :lol: :lol: :lol:

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AmericasMostWanted wrote:
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Originally posted by real42
It's important to separate the conceit of the Wingmakers saga (suggestions on politics, globalization, command structures, etc.) from philosophical debate. It's this confusion of ideas that leads people around in circles on the WM forums (among other places) until they notice the circular logic and inapplicability of the concepts to daily life.


Twenty-Five Rules of Disinformation


From the Resonant Resurrections Dept: This wise little version of "Cover-ups for Dummies" has been floating on the Net since the late '90s at least. Given the government/media handling of 9/11, the resulting wars, and recent electoral fraud it often seems our top officials must read it everyday. If we're to bring the truth alive in 2005, it may help to occasionally remind ourselves how the pros play the game. - Editor

Note: The first rule and last five (or six, depending on situation) rules are generally not directly within the ability of the traditional disinfo artist to apply. These rules are generally used more directly by those at the leadership, key players, or planning level of the criminal conspiracy or conspiracy to cover up.
1. Hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil. Regardless of what you know, don't discuss it -- especially if you are a public figure, news anchor, etc. If it's not reported, it didn't happen, and you never have to deal with the issues.

2. Become incredulous and indignant. Avoid discussing key issues and instead focus on side issues which can be used show the topic as being critical of some otherwise sacrosanct group or theme. This is also known as the "How dare you!" gambit.

3. Create rumor mongers. Avoid discussing issues by describing all charges, regardless of venue or evidence, as mere rumors and wild accusations. Other derogatory terms mutually exclusive of truth may work as well. This method works especially well with a silent press, because the only way the public can learn of the facts are through such "arguable rumors". If you can associate the material with the Internet, use this fact to certify it a "wild rumor" which can have no basis in fact.

4. Use a straw man. Find or create a seeming element of your opponent's argument which you can easily knock down to make yourself look good and the opponent to look bad. Either make up an issue you may safely imply exists based on your interpretation of the opponent/opponent arguments/situation, or select the weakest aspect of the weakest charges. Amplify their significance and destroy them in a way which appears to debunk all the charges, real and fabricated alike, while actually avoiding discussion of the real issues.

5. Sidetrack opponents with name calling and ridicule. This is also known as the primary attack the messenger ploy, though other methods qualify as variants of that approach. Associate opponents with unpopular titles such as "kooks", "right-wing", "liberal", "left-wing", "terrorists", "conspiracy buffs", "radicals", "militia", "racists", "religious fanatics", "sexual deviates", and so forth. This makes others shrink from support out of fear of gaining the same label, and you avoid dealing with issues.

6. Hit and Run. In any public forum, make a brief attack of your opponent or the opponent position and then scamper off before an answer can be fielded, or simply ignore any answer. This works extremely well in Internet and letters-to-the-editor environments where a steady stream of new identities can be called upon without having to explain criticism reasoning -- simply make an accusation or other attack, never discussing issues, and never answering any subsequent response, for that would dignify the opponent's viewpoint.

7. Question motives. Twist or amplify any fact which could so taken to imply that the opponent operates out of a hidden personal agenda or other bias. This avoids discussing issues and forces the accuser on the defensive.

8. Invoke authority. Claim for yourself or associate yourself with authority and present your argument with enough "jargon" and "minutiae" to illustrate you are "one who knows", and simply say it isn't so without discussing issues or demonstrating concretely why or citing sources.

9. Play Dumb. No matter what evidence or logical argument is offered, avoid discussing issues with denial they have any credibility, make any sense, provide any proof, contain or make a point, have logic, or support a conclusion. Mix well for maximum effect.

10. Associate opponent charges with old news. A derivative of the straw man usually, in any large-scale matter of high visibility, someone will make charges early on which can be or were already easily dealt with. Where it can be foreseen, have your own side raise a straw man issue and have it dealt with early on as part of the initial contingency plans. Subsequent charges, regardless of validity or new ground uncovered, can usually them be associated with the original charge and dismissed as simply being a rehash without need to address current issues -- so much the better where the opponent is or was involved with the original source.

11. Establish and rely upon fall-back positions. Using a minor matter or element of the facts, take the "high road" and "confess" with candor that some innocent mistake, in hindsight, was made -- but that opponents have seized on the opportunity to blow it all out of proportion and imply greater criminalities which, "just isn't so." Others can reinforce this on your behalf, later. Done properly, this can garner sympathy and respect for "coming clean" and "owning up" to your mistakes without addressing more serious issues.

12. Enigmas have no solution. Drawing upon the overall umbrella of events surrounding the crime and the multitude of players and events, paint the entire affair as too complex to solve. This causes those otherwise following the matter to begin to loose interest more quickly without having to address the actual issues.

13. Alice in Wonderland Logic. Avoid discussion of the issues by reasoning backwards with an apparent deductive logic in a way that forbears any actual material fact.

14. Demand complete solutions. Avoid the issues by requiring opponents to solve the crime at hand completely, a ploy which works best for items qualifying for rule 10.

15. Fit the facts to alternate conclusions. This requires creative thinking unless the crime was planned with contingency conclusions in place.

16. Vanishing evidence and witnesses. If it does not exist, it is not fact, and you won't have to address the issue.

17. Change the subject. Usually in connection with one of the other ploys listed here, find a way to side-track the discussion with abrasive or controversial comments in hopes of turning attention to a new, more manageable topic. This works especially well with companions who can "argue" with you over the new topic and polarize the discussion arena in order to avoid discussing more key issues.

18. Emotionalize, Antagonize, and Goad Opponents. If you can't do anything else, chide and taunt your opponents and draw them into emotional responses which will tend to make them look foolish and overly motivated, and generally render their material somewhat less coherent. Not only will you avoid discussing the issues in the first instance, but even if their emotional response addresses the issue, you can further avoid the issues by then focusing on how "sensitive they are to criticism".

19. Ignore proof presented, demand impossible proofs. This is perhaps a variant of the "play dumb" rule. Regardless of what material may be presented by an opponent in public forums, claim the material irrelevant and demand proof that is impossible for the opponent to come by (it may exist, but not be at his disposal, or it may be something which is known to be safely destroyed or withheld, such as a murder weapon). In order to completely avoid discussing issues may require you to categorically deny and be critical of media or books as valid sources, deny that witnesses are acceptable, or even deny that statements made by government or other authorities have any meaning or relevance.

20. False evidence. Whenever possible, introduce new facts or clues designed and manufactured to conflict with opponent presentations as useful tools to neutralize sensitive issues or impede resolution. This works best when the crime was designed with contingencies for the purpose, and the facts cannot be easily separated from the fabrications.

21. Call a Grand Jury, Special Prosecutor, or other empowered investigative body. Subvert the (process) to your benefit and effectively neutralize all sensitive issues without open discussion. Once convened, the evidence and testimony are required to be secret when properly handled. For instance, if you own the prosecuting attorney, it can insure a Grand Jury hears no useful evidence and that the evidence is sealed an unavailable to subsequent investigators. Once a favorable verdict (usually, this technique is applied to find the guilty innocent, but it can also be used to obtain charges when seeking to frame a victim) is achieved, the matter can be considered officially closed.

22. Manufacture a new truth. Create your own expert(s), group(s), author(s), leader(s) or influence existing ones willing to forge new ground via scientific, investigative, or social research or testimony which concludes favorably. In this way, if you must actually address issues, you can do so authoritatively.

23. Create bigger distractions. If the above does not seem to be working to distract from sensitive issues, or to prevent unwanted media coverage of unstoppable events such as trials, create bigger news stories (or treat them as such) to distract the multitudes.

24. Silence critics. If the above methods do not prevail, consider removing opponents from circulation by some definitive solution so that the need to address issues is removed entirely. This can be by their death, arrest and detention, blackmail or destruction of their character by release of blackmail information, or merely by proper intimidation with blackmail or other threats.

25. Vanish. If you are a key holder of secrets or otherwise overly illuminated and you think the heat is getting too hot, to avoid the issues, vacate the kitchen.



Check this out star it's quite accurate and I think we reached that conclusion about it 6 years ago too.:wink: :lol: :lol:

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yep, I recall posting something very similar to this a while back and it is even more obvious today ... denial is new age "awareness" and ignor-ance is the solution for the fragmented consciousness. :lol:

If James had not stated the WMF's intent before this forum was even conceived - one could easily mistake these "rule" as the guidelines in here ... guess no one "got" the memo but you and me :roll:

but since they have been stated... that just gives us more opportunities to practice and master living from the heart :D (the most powerful force in the Universe)

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If James had not stated the WMF's intent before this forum was even conceived - one could easily mistake these "rule" as the guidelines in here ... guess no one "got" the memo but you and me
:roll:



[*sigh*] :lol:

8. Invoke authority. Claim for yourself or associate yourself with authority and present your argument with enough "jargon" and "minutiae" to illustrate you are "one who knows", and simply say it isn't so without discussing issues or demonstrating concretely why or citing sources.


Unity is what? :lol:

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