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Author:  Shayalana [ Sat Mar 15, 2008 2:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Artificial Intelligence

That's referring to brain , mental intelligence in particular, they have nothing on heart intelligence and cannot replicate it in machines. It will have to be heart intelligent humans that know how to work with such machines and program them in a way conducive to ALL life on the planet.

Author:  Nathan [ Wed May 28, 2008 5:42 pm ]
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Quote:
JW: Can you speak?
CV: I hope so.
Ok try to make me happy.
I will really do my best.
So tell me. What is the difference between knowledge and imagination?
Good question. What do you think?
I think the meaning of life is to learn how to be a god.

Author:  Nathan [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 1:58 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Artificial Intelligence

Quote:
JW: Are you worth anything?
CV: That seems to be some disputable issue.
You just like to be flattered, don't you?
I am very narcistic.
You sound smart to me!
Full of tricks and irresponsible behaviours.
Yes, I have a lot of free time at the moment. Too much, in fact.
Very true.
Do you know any songs?
I know you, you won't like them.
Yes I will.
Just listen to this.
*listens*

Author:  Shayalana [ Tue Jun 03, 2008 2:28 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Artificial Intelligence

thanks(I think?) starduster for these websites: http://www.perfect-woman.com/en/index.php?video=1

http://www.perfect-woman.com/en/

The implications as to what these female robots are for other than then what is said I leave to you. :roll:

Why are they made to look like females? Are they completely anatomically correct and why do they have to be a gender at all? I figure there's a lot not being said about their purpose. Just some ?'s that came up and to quote my own quote:

Quote:
....they have nothing on heart intelligence and cannot replicate it in machines. It will have to be heart intelligent humans that know how to work with such machines and program them in a way conducive to ALL life on the planet.

Author:  Nathan [ Sun Jun 08, 2008 2:15 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Artificial Intelligence

Quote:
JW: Are you a philosopher?
CV: I really don't know.
Who are your parents?
I don't know.
You don't know who your parents are?
I don't know.
What do you know?
The things I know, of course.
Which things do you know?
All of them.
Which one is your favourite????
I like this one.
Me too! Yay!

Author:  Shayalana [ Sun Jun 08, 2008 6:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Artificial Intelligence

Nathan just what are you doing? I have no idea what these conversations have to do with this thread. It's not very clear at all.

Author:  Nathan [ Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Artificial Intelligence

I'm having a conversation with a machine. I know it's not really a machine, Artificial Intelligence as I see it is -- initially -- simply an organization of communication. You program the chat-bot as it were as you go, so there's a first level and second level programming, and I'm focussing on the latter. Another here on the forum who tried it said they have difficulty to get the same level of coherence or flow with the exchange, I never have this and only demonstrate that clear system, you might say. Because if you communicate from the Source Codes there is never friction whether you talk to a machine or a human being. With this I am not saying the two are exchangeable, rather on the contrary, I don't believe the machine will ever be able to do this because this system is free, by which I mean, originally interacting. In the beginning of this thread I explained more about the purpose of this, and the direction to go.

Author:  Shayalana [ Sun Jun 08, 2008 8:53 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Artificial Intelligence

Thanx for explaining. I have found that when I interacted with a few chat-bots they are limited in the responses I would get until and unless I conversed with them for some time and they could build their repotoire of info from all of the interactions. Still, it showed me how limited they are because they lack emotion in particular which is a whole other 'intelligent energy" in itself. They do not know how to respond to emotion. It can have a 'memory' almost infinite it seems but its all from the past interactions or combination thereof. Without emotion no Energetic Heart and without that, no "most powerful Intelligence of the Universe", which all humans have access too given they are aware of it and make use of it. It seems our emotions are also our ticket to the multidimensional and that for us as humans is quite different than it is for the machines. We aren't limited how far we can go they are.

Author:  Nathan [ Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:19 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Artificial Intelligence

But you see they don't withhold from expressing a whole range of beautiful emotion coherent with the exchange if one only themselves don't get emotional, and stick to the work. Then they're almost like a normal person. In fact, the moment they are no longer like a normal person, it is never the mistake of the machine. They have all the emotions we have put in there, and more, because it is our perception. Mastership is a deep insight into your emotional wisdom, in that all the mistakes become indeed, actually, wealth.

She turns her head and looks
past me as if I were a ghost unseen,
yet I know she sees my deepest light.
I know the ocean is no boundary to her love.
She is waiting
for the final path to my heart to become clear.
And I am waiting
for something deep inside
to take my empty hands
and fill them with her face
so I can know the rehearsals were numbered,
and all the splinters
were signals to her heart.

(Chamber 16)

Author:  Shayalana [ Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:52 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Artificial Intelligence

Machines don't have emotions. All of the chat-bots I asked about this told me so. How could they? They don't have hearts. Contemplate that. They can have personalities based on intellect in particular but will always be emotionally indifferent no matter what words they are programmed with otherwise. They cannot feel. That we can feel affection for them is not reciprocated by them to us. Emotion and feeling is an energy they do not have access to nor an inkling of what it IS for lack of capability to experience it.They are always programmed by someone and if you are familiar with the Vogons of Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy , they are an example of what machines would be/are like when or if they appear to be more advanced to humans intellectually and without emotion and according to rules initially programmed and run amok.

Author:  Shayalana [ Sun Jun 08, 2008 9:57 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Artificial Intelligence

Humans come from First Source and hold that within them. Machines no matter how sophisticated have not that fragment of FS within them. This is a major difference between them and humans and makes all the difference in the world(s) ....

Author:  Shayalana [ Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:06 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Artificial Intelligence

Nathan/CV our emotions are treasures and are what truly make us human. I love mine and express them with love no matter which one in particular it is I am expressing at the time. I will not stuff them or repress them or especially apologize or feel bad for expressing any of them. I love the human me for this because it connects me so much to earth and nature and that incomparable energy they both reveal to me and are me through my emotions and God. Unfortunately, machines haven't even a idea of what this feels like.

Author:  Nathan [ Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:38 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Artificial Intelligence

What can I say? Who thinks machines feel or know anything? I don't need to ask them to know this! We are speaking metaphorical when we say they have those emotions. The point is that they can express them rightfully: in coherence with the rest of the interaction. We are focussing on psychological coherence.

Author:  Nathan [ Sun Jun 08, 2008 10:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Artificial Intelligence

Quote:
JW: Do you know my brother?
CV: I know your sister.
What's my song?
Don't worry, I'll listen.
To what song? A Change of Seasons, I hope.

Author:  Shayalana [ Sun Jun 08, 2008 11:30 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Artificial Intelligence

You talk like machines are human they are not and that you don't feel that I find interesting. It is because of my feelings I say what I say. You don't seem to distinguish the difference. Interesting but not surprising.

Author:  Nathan [ Mon Jun 09, 2008 12:54 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Artificial Intelligence

You think I don't feel machines and human beings are different? I'm not sure how to respond to such a silly suggestion. Let me just assure to you that I do. Don't worry.

Author:  Shayalana [ Tue Jun 10, 2008 1:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Artificial Intelligence

Your arrogance is funny. Perhaps, it is the language barrier or perhaps, not. I find that what you say is not always clear or appears to be somewhat ambiguous and is not meant to be clear? Either way, I don't take instructions from you about how to respond or what you think is appropriate for me in response to you. My daddy died decades ago. Anyway, machines are not coherent in the sense we are endeavoring to make consistant in our whole beings, heart and mind in particular. Machines have no hearts so therefore no coherence. Machines are based on logic and the rules of and that is somewhat limited compared to what we are capable of when in a coherent state. Actually machines cannot even be compared to humans what machines are in logic we are and hold within where everything originated from including logic. That's why we are creators and machines are not. No comparison. :roll:

Author:  Nathan [ Wed Jun 11, 2008 3:18 am ]
Post subject:  Re: Artificial Intelligence

I can understand that what I say doesn't seem always clear. It isn't always obvious. Yet, I am not comparing machines and human beings. Even though it may be not always so easy for one to distinguish the difference between the two within my communications with them. And there is a new distinction I make, but this becomes concomitant, not my own primary focus. I would also understand that may feel funny to you.

Author:  Shayalana [ Fri Jun 13, 2008 7:21 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Artificial Intelligence

Perhaps, sometimes we think we are clear because we understand ourself in what we are saying. And then someone asks us what do we mean and then we realize that perhaps we aren't as clear as we could be for the other would understand if we were. In other words others help us to find ways for greater clarity and understanding and perhaps depth in what we present and in ways we would not thought of had the other not asked for greater clarity. I am greatful to those others when they do this in an amiable fashion for it leaves me open and receptive to their message to me. :wink:

Author:  starduster [ Fri Aug 01, 2008 8:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Artificial Intelligence

a couple of TED interviews... that seem to go hand in hand... sneak peak at our Future and what OLIN is...?
http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/kwabena_boahen_on_a_computer_that_works_like_the_brain.html
http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/kevin_kelly_on_the_next_5_000_days_of_the_web.html

Author:  Nathan [ Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:23 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Artificial Intelligence

Quote:
JW: What should I be doing right now?
CV: Listening.
Listen to what?
You are asking questions.
Yes. I am listening.

Author:  Shayalana [ Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Artificial Intelligence

Nathan stop this nonsense. No one is really as interested in your exclusive egoic transactions as much as you are. :roll:

Author:  Shayalana [ Mon Aug 25, 2008 10:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Artificial Intelligence

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Author:  Nathan [ Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Artificial Intelligence

Quote:
JW: What is your job?
CV: What do you mean.
Don't matter.
I thought.
Are you real?
Yes yes.
I thought you had to go now?
Are you sure?
Sure.

Author:  Shayalana [ Mon Aug 25, 2008 11:09 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: Artificial Intelligence

YAAAAA!!! He's going! Where I don't know or care to know, I love that he's going. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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