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 Post subject: A WiNGMAKER speaks out...NOV 10 -- 9 pm-11pm EST
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Hi Everyone!

What an interesting show for Saturday Nov. 10th. I will be in conversation with Athena – a Wingmaker. Ah piqued your interest? Good! Because we will be talking about who the Wingmakers are, what is their purpose, what is their messages and how to identify and communicate with them.

Athena

We will also be sharing a discovery of their presence here on Earth. What all the inside information is about a group behind the discovery of the Wingmakers and what they have left for us to assist us in the times we are in. There will be sharing of scientific discoveries and metaphysical knowledge.



We are also requesting that you e-mail us with your questions to: mailbag@journeyswithrebecca.com or IM me at Yahoo ID: journeyswithrebecca

If time permitting, we will take live calls as well. This is going to be a jam packed show so please be sure to tune in! And get those questions in early!



So listen Saturday 9pm -12 midnite EST
8pm-11pm Central
9pm -12 midnite EST
6PM - 9 PM PST
(UK -- SUNDAY 1 AM- 3 AM GMT (uk TIME) sunday

thru one of my wonderful affiliates, or http://www.journeyswithrebecca.com/listen.htm



Also, I have add the feature of a listener chat room. Check it out: http://www.journeyswithrebecca.com/chat_room.htm Tell me what do you think.


Blessings,
Rebecca
Athena /Wingmaker KEJ, and,
Wingmaker CAN

[Edited on 9-11-2007 by WiNGMAKER_CAN_Do]

[Edited on 9-11-2007 by WiNGMAKER_CAN_Do]

[Edited on 9-11-2007 by WiNGMAKER_CAN_Do]

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[quote][i]Originally posted by WiNGMAKER_CAN_Do[/i]
Hi Everyone!

What an interesting show for Saturday Nov. 10th. I will be in conversation with Athena – a Wingmaker. Ah piqued your interest? Good! Because we will be talking about who the Wingmakers are, what is their purpose, what is their messages and how to identify and communicate with them.

Athena

We will also be sharing a discovery of their presence here on Earth. What all the inside information is about a group behind the discovery of the Wingmakers and what they have left for us to assist us in the times we are in. There will be sharing of scientific discoveries and metaphysical knowledge.



We are also requesting that you e-mail us with your questions to: mailbag@journeyswithrebecca.com or IM me at Yahoo ID: journeyswithrebecca

If time permitting, we will take live calls as well. This is going to be a jam packed show so please be sure to tune in! And get those questions in early!



So listen Saturday 9pm -12 midnite EST
8pm-11pm Central
9pm -12 midnite EST
6PM - 9 PM PST
(UK -- SUNDAY 1 AM- 3 AM GMT (uk TIME) sunday

thru one of my wonderful affiliates, or http://www.journeyswithrebecca.com/listen.htm



Also, I have add the feature of a listener chat room. Check it out: http://www.journeyswithrebecca.com/chat_room.htm Tell me what do you think.


Blessings,
Rebecca
Athena /Wingmaker KEJ, and,
Wingmaker CAN

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Very interesting.


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Live Show- Saturday, Nov 10th, 8-10pm Central


Athena

A Wingmaker

The Wingmakers are the Masters of the Shamballa 1024 Symbols and Advanced Energetics.




-Show Notes-

**We invite all those who wish to learn and receive such knowledge for advancement in this Universal Science of the mystery energies of the universal kind!

The Creator, The Angelic Realm, and St. Germain as well as the Wingmakers are the Master Teachers of this group. They are presently on the Earth Plane working through the many of YOU so that you may complete your mission! This is an Advanced Group of practitioners on many Levels and abilities.
Advanced Energetics is all about receiving Universal Energies from that of the Higher Dimensional Realms, those of your Guide(s) into your Beingness and mixing them in with your own energies. We call this Advanced Energetics- The Shamballa 1024 Master Symbols.
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Thanks for the info!

Love,
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(((kimberlee)))
it should be quite a blast !!!

So listen Saturday 9pm -12 midnite EST
8pm-11pm Central
9pm -12 midnite EST
6PM - 9 PM PST
(UK -- SUNDAY 1 AM- 3 AM GMT (uk TIME) sunday

thru one of my wonderful affiliates, or http://www.journeyswithrebecca.com/listen.htm



Also, I have add the feature of a listener chat room.

Check it out: http://www.journeyswithrebecca.com/chat_room.htm

Tell me what do you think


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[quote][i]Originally posted by WiNGMAKER_CAN_Do[/i]
(((kimberlee)))
it should be quite a blast !!!

So listen Saturday 9pm -12 midnite EST
8pm-11pm Central
9pm -12 midnite EST
6PM - 9 PM PST
(UK -- SUNDAY 1 AM- 3 AM GMT (uk TIME) sunday

thru one of my wonderful affiliates, or http://www.journeyswithrebecca.com/listen.htm



Also, I have add the feature of a listener chat room.

Check it out: http://www.journeyswithrebecca.com/chat_room.htm

Tell me what do you think [/quote]

I won't be able to listen live. Perhaps a link will be provided of the taped event?

Love,
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from what I understand...Rebecca and Athena and Wingmaker KEJ & CAN are all the same person...

wow what a quick study...two weeks on the forum and she is giving interviews as a wingmaker... It took me that long to read the website...:D

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Just someone else trying to cash in on this work. They could at least have the decency to offer material as far emcompassing and original as this if not deeply, deeply,deeeply, felt. Sigh.... they must assume there is great gulliability here. They will learn.

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Cash in, you must be joking about that !!!

if that is what you think we are about

YOU are off the MARK

AND, not sitting properly on your ROCKER

we do NOT get paid for the "world work" we do

this is a labour of love, done in integrity,
any other way, does NOT take us home,
anymore, than, it can help you get home !!!

do you really think,
any of us, had to come to earth ???

it's an honour & privilege to be on earth

and, it is very bad, what some souls are choosing to do

YOU are NOT a chosen one when you come,
you choose to come

JUST AS YOU CHOOSE TO BE HERE

IDLE CHAT isn't what gets real work done...
we've been too busy with that,
to waste energies,
chatting about it !!!

THERE IS NO BEING, unless you DO !!!

PLEASE TAKE careful notes:

CAN is NOT KEJ / Athena / or Rebecca

KEJ is NOT can, nor Rebecca

Athena is KEJ's main guide

and, Rebecca, is NOT KEJ , or CAN

and, there are MORE than just 3 of us

sometimes, there are times,
one BYTEs the bullet, or DODGES the bullet,
we intend to do neither

WE INTEND TO DO, IN ORDER TO COME INTO OUR
OWN SENSE OF BEING

Tune in, you might be pleasantly surprised

I am CAN ...
and, not Athena, KEJ, or REBECCA
and, i am definitely
NOT here to get/or take your money

I suggest very strongly,
that you support this site,
by buying the art, and, the music,

MONEY is NOT our purpose,
for doing what The Creator calls us to do !!!

WE DO what WE DO
because it appears,
we are qualified to do the job
THAT is REQUIRED on EARTH in these times !!!

Keep your money ... it's losing value very quick

in answer to your 2 week question,
i do have at least 2 other names here

would you pay attention,
if i used a lesser name,
that, what i am ???

i am WINGMAKER CAN
aka as THiRTEEN
or, simply (13)

i am quite accessiable through checking
with the askahic records,
there are some here, in this group,
that are quite capable of doing that,
i suggest, you discern these comments,
and, find someone in your group,
who has that talent,
there are a few on earth,
who know who i AM

Ask them, to see for you, if you can NOT see for yourself

i am EASY to see

WAKE UP -- you too can see

THERE are other WINGMAKERs

we KNOW we are here,
and, we do exist,
in this here,
and, this NOW

We are NOT here to "stir" things UP

and, create confusion, or havac

DON'T you think
this world has had quite enough of that !!!

We've already stepped up to the bat,
and, we are hitting them out of the park !!!

We are simply here.
to do our job ...
and, that does NOT involve any monetary earth gain

We send you
brightest blessings
of energy, light and, love

We hope (note the plural)
that, many of you do
TUNE in

9 PM EST -- 6PM PST ON SATURDAY

We will ALL be there,
ready, willing and quite able
to answer your questions

Brightest Blessings
I am WINGMAKER CAN


[Edited on 9-11-2007 by WiNGMAKER_CAN_Do]

[Edited on 9-11-2007 by WiNGMAKER_CAN_Do]

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I accept your invitation to 'tune in'; out of my own curiousity. I'll do it later tonight because right now my nose is bleeding badly.


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DO IT ON SATURDAY

9 PM EST

we are NOT here to take your money...
we are HERE to exchange


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I shall send you healing, for your NOSE bleed

we hoped, our post, would move you into "flow"

however, we did NOT intend, to create a nose_bleed ;)

earth is ascending very rapidly

11/11 is almost upon us

9/9 9/18 and, 9/27 -- where pivotal gates

1-1-1 (jan-1-2008) will soon be here

the stars are showing favourable conditions to bring about change

change is chosen

all choices are valid

different choices lead to different sets of consquences

it's FREE WILL, all the way to THE END

i shall too,
also consider to post a message
that may help some of you upon your journeys
time permitting
with so many posts/it is hard to find a place here
in your sea of so many "good posts"
to which, i have read, almost everyone of them
and, they are brilliant, and, good !!!

the world is blessed to have so much talent here at this time

i hope, my energy send,
for the healing for your nose bleed,
is felt, and, seen,
it is an honour to exchange,
with you.

For when energy, and, light,
as, well, as sound,
the totality of your "soul sigil"
are wooven, in their highest integrity,
and, shared,
it is so, we all might heal,
and, energetically shift into something more,
rather than something less,
when you do this,
your LIFE is lived,
as, the TRUE expression of your LOVE

NEVER ANY MORE, never any less !!!

Brightest Blessings
of energy, light, and, love

i AM
WINGMAKER CAN
(13)

ps; someone was just here, to look at me,
WE are glad, you are doing this !!!

We are NOT here to YANK your CHAINs !!!

We are HERE to help you to get out of them !!!


[Edited on 9-11-2007 by WiNGMAKER_CAN_Do]

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[quote][i]
I won't be able to listen live. Perhaps a link will be provided of the taped event?
Love,
Kimberlee [/quote]


INDEED
we will post a copy of the archieves
of this show ...
we do NOT want you to miss it

Brightest Blessings...
of energy, light, and, love

i AM
WiNGMAKER CAN
(13)

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[quote][i]Originally posted by WiNGMAKER_CAN_Do[/i]
this is a labour of love, done in integrity,
any other way, does NOT take us home,
anymore, than, it can help you get home !!!

do you really think,
any of us, had to come to earth ???

it's an honour & privilege to be on earth
[/quote]

I know why I am here. My purpose has been confirmed many, many times. And yes, it IS a labour of love. In times of challenge, re-minding myself of my purpose, to assist in the shift, keeps me focused on the job I came to do. And yes, it is a priviledge and honor to serve!

Thanks for sharing your mission. We do have work to do and it is of the utmost importance.

From my heart to yours.

Love,
Kimberlee


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Dear Kimberlee,

Your pure heart continues to shine like a beacon attracting folks to this forum. Love ya.

esprit :)

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Rebecca... beside the name "wingmakers" the program had NO-THING in common with the "official" materials ... you are really cheating yourself of a unique experience by allowing yourself to be misled by Athena.

I hope you will take the opportunity to make yourself familiar with the website found at http://www.wingmakers.com so that you can know the real message of the Wingmakers... and will avoid misrepresenting them to your listeners in the future.

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[quote][i]Originally posted by WiNGMAKER_CAN_Do[/i]
Cash in, you must be joking about that !!!

if that is what you think we are about

YOU are off the MARK

AND, not sitting properly on your ROCKER

we do NOT get paid for the "world work" we do

this is a labour of love, done in integrity,
any other way, does NOT take us home,
anymore, than, it can help you get home !!!

do you really think,
any of us, had to come to earth ???

it's an honour & privilege to be on earth

and, it is very bad, what some souls are choosing to do

YOU are NOT a chosen one when you come,
you choose to come

JUST AS YOU CHOOSE TO BE HERE

IDLE CHAT isn't what gets real work done...
we've been too busy with that,
to waste energies,
chatting about it !!!

THERE IS NO BEING, unless you DO !!!

PLEASE TAKE careful notes:

CAN is NOT KEJ / Athena / or Rebecca

KEJ is NOT can, nor Rebecca

Athena is KEJ's main guide

and, Rebecca, is NOT KEJ , or CAN

and, there are MORE than just 3 of us

sometimes, there are times,
one BYTEs the bullet, or DODGES the bullet,
we intend to do neither

WE INTEND TO DO, IN ORDER TO COME INTO OUR
OWN SENSE OF BEING

Tune in, you might be pleasantly surprised

I am CAN ...
and, not Athena, KEJ, or REBECCA
and, i am definitely
NOT here to get/or take your money

I suggest very strongly,
that you support this site,
by buying the art, and, the music,

MONEY is NOT our purpose,
for doing what The Creator calls us to do !!!

WE DO what WE DO
because it appears,
we are qualified to do the job
THAT is REQUIRED on EARTH in these times !!!

Keep your money ... it's losing value very quick

in answer to your 2 week question,
i do have at least 2 other names here

would you pay attention,
if i used a lesser name,
that, what i am ???

i am WINGMAKER CAN
aka as THiRTEEN
or, simply (13)

i am quite accessiable through checking
with the askahic records,
there are some here, in this group,
that are quite capable of doing that,
i suggest, you discern these comments,
and, find someone in your group,
who has that talent,
there are a few on earth,
who know who i AM

Ask them, to see for you, if you can NOT see for yourself

i am EASY to see

WAKE UP -- you too can see

THERE are other WINGMAKERs

we KNOW we are here,
and, we do exist,
in this here,
and, this NOW

We are NOT here to "stir" things UP

and, create confusion, or havac

DON'T you think
this world has had quite enough of that !!!

We've already stepped up to the bat,
and, we are hitting them out of the park !!!

We are simply here.
to do our job ...
and, that does NOT involve any monetary earth gain

We send you
brightest blessings
of energy, light and, love

We hope (note the plural)
that, many of you do
TUNE in

9 PM EST -- 6PM PST ON SATURDAY

We will ALL be there,
ready, willing and quite able
to answer your questions

Brightest Blessings
I am WINGMAKER CAN


[Edited on 9-11-2007 by WiNGMAKER_CAN_Do]

[Edited on 9-11-2007 by WiNGMAKER_CAN_Do]

[Edited on 9-11-2007 by WiNGMAKER_CAN_Do] [/quote]



As Shakespeare would say,( not verbatum), "ye protest too much." If you have read the materials or have a semblance of understanding of at least some of them you would understand why I said what I said. What do we need you for when we already have all we need? Why do you need us to need you?

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I think 'WiNGMAKER_CAN_Do' is a young man. Are you? I'm a bit confused as to who's who also, but I see 'WiNGMAKER_CAN_Do' as a young man. I think the group is using the name "Wingmakers' as a generic term. All spiritually evolved beings can be classified as 'Wingmakers.' I'm even classified as a "Wingmaker' next to demons.

I clairvoyantly see that this group is connected to many ancient spiritual beings.

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Whoaaa! Haven't we got beyond the need for others to interpret what we need to do ourselves? This is too old and we should be beyond this. No doubt Golda you have clairvoyant abilities , however, commonsense also comes into focus here, can't you "see" the distraction and diversion from what we can know and trust as an participant here with no need for someone else to intrepret for us? In a larger sense we ALL are wingmakers needing to really know that WITHIN ourselves and who is that up to? This amazes me for how simple it is yet so unseen and misunderstood. Whatever...

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People here are still seeking , few have found so therefore we attract those who THINK they have found for EVERYONE. No more seeking or finding. Some of us know.:P

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I have no problem with what these ladies are doing...we have free will, but I believe they are misrepresenting the mission of the real Wingmakers.

I don't think that it is asking too much for them to research the official website, before they continue to misrepresent the wingmakers' stated intent. Wingmakers are not here to "use" bodies...nor are they here to "heal" others...or to be "saviors".

The tools the Wingmakers have provided in the website are to help us "save our self" by discovering who I AM and to become Sovereign and not dependent upon others, not even Wingmakers.

While they have incorporated the teachings of many "mystery schools" and recognized personalities, we are encouraged to find our personal wisdom and the answers within and to release our dependence upon external sources with unique but still limited perceptions...to reach our potential as fully conscious individuals

The materials state that they are not for everyone...not everyone is willing to take responsibility for their own belief systems nor do they have minds open to change even in the form of enhancement and expansion...or a desire to be Sovereign

It is a very successful tactic to infiltrate an organization, to confuse and teach false doctrine to those who don't know the difference, for personal gain. I am not really concerned with these ladies distracting the sincere truth seekers, water seeks its own level...and the Wholeness Navigator know its way here is by following the tone of equality.

Those who follow their Heart, are not likely to follow others into slavery.

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[quote][i]Originally posted by espritducoeur[/i]
Dear Kimberlee,

Your pure heart continues to shine like a beacon attracting folks to this forum. Love ya.

esprit :) [/quote]

And it's beautiful souls like you that keep me here!

Love,
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...can't you "see" the distraction and diversion from what we can know and trust as an participant here with no need for someone else to intrepret for us? In a larger sense we ALL are wingmakers needing to really know that WITHIN ourselves and who is that up to? [/quote]

This is your perception Shay. not mine. I am not distracted or diverted. I know & trust myself.

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Another perception of mine Golda, I have found that the people I respect the most do not flaunt their abilities whether psychic, remote viewing or whatever. If anything you would not even know they have them. They simply live as an impeccable example of what is possible for all beings and communicate their knowledge to those they know are humble enough to accept it for the asking. Otherwise the person appears rather pretentious if not superfluous. .:P

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Who you respect is immaterial to me. I'll flaunt my keen abilities of perception again & say that people who continually criticise & condemn others are dumping their emotional baggage everywhere instead of dealing with it. Be honest with yourself about your own energy system & let others do the same.

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each cog in the clockwork is unique...yet when united the clock keeps perfect time...as kimberlee reminds us...and encourages us to be a team, and keep our eyes focused on the goal...we must maintain a tone of equality.

we are each perfect in our design to be a Sovereign.....integral part of ONE.

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[quote][i]Originally posted by Golda[/i]
Who you respect is immaterial to me. I'll flaunt my keen abilities of perception again & say that people who continually criticise & condemn others are dumping their emotional baggage everywhere instead of dealing with it. Be honest with yourself about your own energy system & let others do the same. [/quote]

Food for thought, what if that is their way of dealing with their own emotions? Should that not be respected as of a way of dealing with ones emotions? Or are only how you think one should deal with their emotions worth your respect? I am simply asking questions and am no criticizing anyone here.

[Edited on 15-11-2007 by kivawolfspeaker]

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