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Shayalana · **Posted:** Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:13 pm

James says that the Quantum Presence in a sense created us. This is akin to a morphic field or perhaps, it is greater than that. That is as we know ourselves in these HI's for we are not the HI. The HI is a tool for us to be able to experience through the five senses this 3-D plane which happens to be of a very slow frequency, linear, and limited. The limitations come with the degree of programming we still believe of the HMS as necessary for us to live. Funny how that works when it's the SI that makes our life possible and that of the HMS to deceive us into thinking that it is our HI's that our lives depend on instead. Anu tinkered with our perceptions in particular by limiting our view as to what is available and possible. He all but killed the SI. The labyrinth is the mind itself for all that is askew there and fed by our noisy environments that constantly divert our attention with religions, careers(money and education), as our identity, sports,entertainment and other distractions so we constantly seek outwards for satisfaction. The Sovereign Integral is so far removed from this. That state of being is beyond the levels of fields even for everything and no things are contained within it. The SI looks in and sees us but we don't see it because our attention is captured and focused elsewhere. I find these fields fascinating and make notes as I watch the vids so much in connections are coming to me from this. The human Genome is not as important as knowing about these morphic fields. Genes depend on the organizational efficiency of the fields.However, nothing is set in stone... :wink:

Russell · **Joined:** Sat Apr 30, 2005 4:29 pm **Posts:** 2178

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Shayalana wrote:

.....nothing is set in stone.....

"Shayalana".....YOU ARE NOTHING.....i like your jumpsuit though.

NEITHER AM I.

WE ARE NOTHING.....HOWEVER.....

WE ARE THE INCEPTION OF ALL THAT IS.

starduster · **Posted:** Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:03 pm

wow... did you see that movie too ... I thought it was great !

http://www.filmulde10.com/load/actiune/inception_inceputul_2010/1-1-0-1648

Shayalana · **Posted:** Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:32 pm

Wholistic Science says there is a whole series of levels and to understand anything you have to study it at their own level. Particle Physics is best funded because they think that where the answer lies is in the smallest of things and they have spent billions of euros building gigantic machines to find the answer in the smallest of particles that can be seen for mere fractions of a second.

Morphic fields appear to be like a nested hierarchy. Nervous systems are highly indeterminate in their behavior and are organized by another set of fields. Mental activity is organized by mental fields and social groups like flocks of birds or termite colonies are organized by social fields. All of these kinds of fields are morphic fields. Morphic fields is the category in which morphogenetic fields are one species and are the kind of field concerned with the development of form of animals, plants and crystals. How do these fields work? By imposing patterns or structure on indeterminate or chaotic processes. Everything in nature , except some human machines is pretty well indeterminate . The Chaos Theory and Quantum Theory have revealed that the old illusion of Science that everything in principle is totally predictable is not true, it was just an illusion. Most of nature is very unpredictable , that's why even with satellite photos , the weather forecasters don't always get it right. Because the weather is a chaotic system it doesn't obey certain deterministic principles , nor do nervous systems, nor do breaking waves, nor do biological organisms.

From the 3rd vid of The Morphogenetic Universe

Shayalana · **Posted:** Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:48 am

Everything is probabilistic. Leaves in a tree have the same genes and same morphic field, yet every leaf is different, the vein pattern on each leaf is different. Even though it is of the same probabilistic structure each, is individual. Fields impose pattern on morphogenetic probabilistic processes through imposing patterns on developing organisms. Through imposing patterns on the nervous system they underlie behavior and social organization. Genes are the components in the body that aid in this process and especially for the purpose of having an efficiently running organism after the patterns are evoked by the invisible force.

from the 3rd Morphogenetic Universe vid with Rupert Sheldrake.
(Some of this is verbatim from the vid but most is not, still all credit for these ideas goes to him on whatever notes I take , unless otherwise stated).

starduster · **Posted:** Fri Jul 30, 2010 3:30 pm

it is interesting, what can be discern, from Evolutionary developmental biology (genetics) Science is its own greatest dis-tractor ... due to its habit of fragmenting everything.

the science the WMs are promoting is based upon what is called myth instead of theory ... and it always has an association with a moral (virtue) that science lacks... the WMs simply defined it as the eternal dance of energy, - collectively being organized into materialized manifestations of the species' imagination -between origins and destiny. Their studies are " centered on seven disciplines: the fields of genetics, neo-sciences, metaphysics, sensory data streams, psycho-coherence, cultural evolution, and the Sovereign Integral."

I appreciate that they call these studies, disciplines (which is only perfected after much practice) and that their ability to acquire wisdom was inherently included (by design) in our species' original template

First Source, through its original blueprint of exploration, enabled the humanoid species the ability and means to acquire this knowledge itself. If the true wisdom were brought to the species from outside itself, it would be inherently mistrusted and it would not be sufficiently compelling to unite the species.

I find that slightly humorous when it appears the only thing Science is united on (much less the species), is the theory of uncertainty ... I am sure the WMs' "science" is well beyond that point, when you consider it was established at the point of origin - and as Dr N reveals, that not knowing our origins is the reason why science and religion fail to produce "true wisdom" - because they both deny and ignore their unearthly origins

Are we saying that science will lead you to this true wisdom? No, we are telling you that there will be a handful of your species that will step forward as Sovereign Integrals with a balanced scientific and philosophical nature, and they will have the benefit of an educated species that will listen to the inconvertible evidence.

Shayalana · **Posted:** Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:15 pm

Morphic resonance is based on similarity within a species. It is why plants and animals of the same species or type all have the same structure etc. The beauty of nature is that nothing is set in stone in her evolution and when enough members of the species make a change due to adaptation to the environment or inner imperative, the rest of the species pick up on it through morphic resonance and also make the change. That's why monkeys on one island with no physical contact with other monkeys of the same species on another island pick up on what the monkeys on the first island did in adapting to their environment such as washing the sand off of a banana before eating it which they hadn't done before until a group of monkeys saw one do this and tried it themselves and adapted that new behavior. There is much more to the invisible realms and the influence that comes from there than what we use our five outer senses to detect . It is the invisible that originally gave birth to us and the entire species that is this lovely planet Earth. :wink:

Shayalana · **Posted:** Fri Jul 30, 2010 11:24 pm

An example of extended mind is social organization that depends on morphic fields. An example of this is starlings in flight and when they all change direction at the same time . They are not following a leader, a maneuver wave moves through the flock and the best computer models of this are as field phenomena and they seem to act similar to iron filings when you move a magnet over them, it is a wave field that effects the filings.The individual birds are responding to the field of the group. The maneuver wave can start anywhere in the flock, they are not doing it by looking to a leader , it can start at the back of the flock. It"s not done by vision , they are not looking over their shoulder at their neighbor to see if birds behind them are moving. And the speed at which the maneuver moves through the flock is far too fast for them to respond to by looking at their neighbors. This is a kind of field phenomena.

The Morphogenetic Universe 5 & 6

Shayalana · **Posted:** Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:22 am

All social groups have fields that coordinate their activities. Social groups split up, adult wolves go hunting leaving cubs in the den with a babysitter and the adults go hunting a hundred miles away or so. It's not like the adults have forgotten their cubs or the social group has been dissolved, the social group has stretched the field joining them like an elastic band stretches and continues to connect them at a distance. That social field linking them at a distance is the basis for connection between them called TELEPATHY. TELEPATHY means distant feeling TELE as in television, distant pathy as in empathy feeling. The coordination of animal groups including at a distance as well as when they are close together, depends on morphic fields and it enables them to keep in touch at a distance.Telepathy is a normal and natural means of animal communication. It's normal not paranormal, natural not supernatural. It's a normal form of communication between members of animal groups and animals are much better at it then most people. It's not specially a human thing at all. It's a normal, natural biological phenomenon It's analogous to Quantum Entanglement, if two particles are part of the same system and they move apart, they remain connected with each other through quantum non-locality or quantum entanglement. So a change in one instantly effects the other. Quantum non-locality or quantum entanglement does not fall off with distance. It doesn't matter how far apart they are the connection is just as strong. That's true of telepathy as well, all experimental research and history research on telepathy has shown no dependence on distance. This kind of connection between bonded members of groups is normal. Pets and humans are an excellent example of telepathy. (Especially the pet knowing when the person is coming home before the person arrives.)

The Morphogenetic Universe, by Rupert Sheldrake, part 6 of 9

Shayalana · **Posted:** Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:34 am

Telepathy is not paranormal(rare). It is not rare just because it doesn't fit into the mechanistic view of nature as within science. It does fit into a wider view of science through morphic fields. Some of the experiments done in University paranormal psychology labs have not been well designed to take into account the nature of telepathy. They test complete strangers with one of them looking at meaningless stimuli in one room while the other is suppose to guess them in another.Telepathy usually doesn't work with emotionally neutral and meaningless situations, nor does it work with strangers. It's surprising that those experiments give any significant results. On the whole they do give weak but significant results.
In real life telepathy occurs most commonly with people who are strongly emotionally bonded;parents and children, lovers, husbands and wives, best friends, close colleagues, and therapists and clients who have an emotional transference going on. It doesn't happen between strangers typically. Experiments have been done with nursing mothers whose milk let down when the baby was crying to be fed miles away. Another experiment done was with telephone telepathy, this is a far more common experience for a lot of people who will have a thought of another person and the phone will ring and it will be that person on the phone. About 80% of the population have had that experience. Women have it more than men according to the data all over the world from all the places surveyed for it. But over 70% of men have this too, Argentian men being the most sensitive and British men the least. Telephone telepathy is the most common of its kind in the modern world and it has evolved with technology.

The Morphogenetic Universe, vid 7 of 9, by Rupert Sheldrake.(Some of what is written here is verbatim from the 7th vid but not all. However all of it is from his experience and conclusions from various experiments he carried out so all credit goes to him).

I love the example of telephone telepathy as having evolved with technology. This next excerpt is from Liminal Cosmogony on the Lyricus website and I think that morphic fields will lead to greater understanding of what follows:

Quote:

TEMPLATES OF LIFE
While Lyricus exports the genetic template for a species, the template is not physical or material in structure. Across all dimensions of space there exists a primary field of vibration or quantum primacy. This field is non-physical but informs the physical. It exists independent of the physical structures of existence, and can be thought of as Underivative Information Structures (UIS).

UISs are sub-quantum and represent the primary blueprint for living systems and inorganic matter. It is UIS that gives rise to the quantum fields that interpenetrate planets, stars, galaxies, and the universe at large. It is the communication field of life that connects the nonlocal and the local, the individual and the collective, the one and the infinite.

Lyricus brings the master templates that operate at an energetic, quantum level, and are inter-meshed or seated upon UIS, which then acts as the energetic grid for all master templates. Within the master templates are the vibratory fields and biomagnetics that give rise to all dimensional expressions, including the genome of the species or organism and its corresponding energy system and linkages, resonant couplings, and communication systems.

Thus, Lyricus defines the physical borders of a species or organism without exporting a physical representation. Rather it is “programmed” into the master template at the quantum level and this master template activates the sub-programs that ultimately formulate the cellular intelligence or molecular integrity of a living, organic system or inorganic matter.

Species typically uncover these energetic structures after they have fully absorbed and assimilated the physical structures that emerge from the energetic. There are eleven primary fields of vibration and each is interfaced directly with the other. They are not layered in a three-dimensional construct. They are holograhically coiled and encoded in a manner that cannot be expressed with language nor depicted with three-dimensional geometry or spatial relationships.

The master template is the common interface between each field of vibration. Energetically, it is supported and sustained through UIS. UIS, the master templates, and the energetic systems that arise from it are constantly in an interactive process of communication. It is this communication that informs the evolutionary design of a species, organism, or material object – whether organic or inorganic.

This interactive process of the energetic systems is monitored by a frequency of UIS that is called Source Intelligence or the Universal Spirit Intelligence. This frequency absorbs, filters, and processes the communication between the fields of vibration and distills them into packets of information suitable for utilization by First Source. This is the manner in which the interactions between all dimensions of existence are brought into coherence and applicability to the formation of new worlds, species, and dimensional constructs. This is the conduit in which the multiverse evolves and all life within it advances into higher dimensional expressions.

UIS provides the structure behind the quantum fields and energetic systems that yield form and the living systems that support form. The soul carrier is an outcome of the master template that is energetically distributed to life-bearing planets upon the multiverse vehicle of UIS. This template, which creates and interacts with the morphogenetic field of the soul, defines the soul carriers’ limits of functionality and expression – but only in the flow of time.

starduster · **Posted:** Sat Jul 31, 2010 11:55 am

I would appreciate if you told me what you KNOW, Shay, and how it relates to the WMMs, since that is what we are here to discuss ... I am sure that anyone with a serious interest in genetics, would read the book ... without you quoting it's contents more than once.

I found this link ( http://www.topix.com/forum/science/genetics ) where you might go and discuss these findings in detail... that is focused on genetics, and not the WMMs (which they may not appreciate)... I see that you have made the "link" to what the materials are revealing in a far more simple language, and I appreciate that

I agree, that telepathy is not "para" normal, and that we all have the innate ability to communicate, at the very least, our feelings on these concepts as we come across them in the materials ... with or without having to struggle through pages of scientific jargon, to explain what, for some of us is "second nature" ... that doesn't need a lengthy explanation, because the heart intuitively trusts the Creators.

Shayalana · **Posted:** Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:08 pm

Emotional closeness is key to the high rates of telepathy. For those interested, if you go to
http://www.sheldrake.org there are some tests there you can try concerning telepathy. Obviously you do them with someone else or others. :lol:

Shayalana · **Posted:** Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:19 pm

Morphic fields are really a way of looking at the way things are organized. these are organizing fields with built in memory and is a part of this larger shift to a Field paradigm. They are the fields of organization that make systems on all levels of complexity what they are.They underlie our mental activity and behavior, they connect us with each other and with the environment . They connect members of social groups and animal societies, they connect different parts of the body and they are interconnecting fields. They are what underlie the interconnectedness of nature.
When we shift from the old reductionist mechanist paradigm to a Wholistic paradigm these fields are a major part of it. They not only interconnect space, they interconnect time by giving a collective memory. Our brains are like receivers, they are NOT where its all happening. We're interconnected not only with each other but in time through our collective memory to large numbers of other people in the past.

The Morphogenetic Universe by Rupert Sheldrake, vid 9 of 9.

Shayalana · **Posted:** Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:32 pm

Rupert Sheldrake - The Rise of Shamanism

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-lQyGX0 ... re=related

Shayalana · **Posted:** Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:43 pm

Sheldrake referred to these people in one of his vids.

Quote:

OpenSourceScience is a public space for managing controversial scientific experiments in a way that provides open access to of all phases of the research. We provide a centralized resource for scientific collaboration, and help underwrite scientifically rigorous experiments that may contribute to an improved understanding of human consciousness.

The essence of the open source model is the rapid creation of innovative results within an inclusive and collaborative environment. At OpenSourceScience, we bring together the skeptical community, controversial science researchers, and interested laypeople to help design and facilitate high-quality scientific experiments. Our community encompasses multiple points of view joined together by a commitment to "follow the data". This spirit of cooperation promises to improve the long-term viability of our results.

http://www.opensourcescience.net/index. ... =Main_Page

Shayalana · **Posted:** Sat Jul 31, 2010 12:56 pm

SCIENCE OF INTERCONNECTEDNESS OR WHOLENESS: ‘HOLISTIC SCIENCE’theme: Holistic science is based on the phenomenon of inter-connectedness... oneness or ‘wholeness’ and recognizes the intrinsic nature and value of the human inner life... validates the consciousness of the scientist as subjective participant in the observation process as a significant aspect of objective physical sense data. Holistic science produces the ecological worldview. See 'systems biology'... holistic science to understand natural systems... complex systems have 'emergent properties' that describe the characteristics of the system as a whole. These properties are conditioned but not determined by the properties of the constituent parts.
"The specialist concentrates on detail and disregards the wider structure which gives it context. The 'new' scientist however, concentrates on structure on all levels of magnitude and complexity, and fits detail into its general framework.He discerns relationships and situations, not atomistic facts and events. By this method he can understand a lot more about a great many more things than the rigorous specialist, although his understanding is somewhat more general and approximate... This is knowledge of 'connected complexity'. We ourselves are a part of the connected complexity with which we are surrounded in nature...To have an adequate grasp of reality, we must look at things in systems, with properties ('emergent properties') and structures ('framework' resulting from pattern of i'nterconnections) of their own."

http://www.holisticeducator.com/holisticscience.htm

Shayalana · **Posted:** Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:43 pm

The Red Pill
Or
An Information Systems
Analysis of Mind, Knowledge,
'the World' and Holistic Science

http://www.anandavala.info/TASTMOTNOR/I ... lysis.html

Shayalana · **Posted:** Sat Jul 31, 2010 2:56 pm

ANIMATE EARTH-PILOT

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SoByrc6Rfpk

starduster · **Posted:** Sat Jul 31, 2010 4:06 pm

Zero Point Technologies

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FT_zxNhd11U&feature=related

Shayalana · **Posted:** Sat Jul 31, 2010 9:18 pm

Now You See It, Now You Don't: An Infrared Invisibility Cloak Made of Glass

ScienceDaily (July 22, 2010) — From Tolkien's ring of power in The Lord of the Rings to Star Trek's Romulans, who could make their warships disappear from view, from Harry Potter's magical cloak to the garment that makes players vanish in the video game classic "Dungeons and Dragons", the power to turn someone or something invisible fascinates humankind. But who ever thought that a scientist at Michigan Technological University would be serious about building a working invisibility cloak?

That's exactly what Elena Semouchkina, an associate professor of electrical and computer engineering at Michigan Tech, is doing. She has found ways to use magnetic resonance to capture rays of visible light and route them around objects, rendering those objects invisible to the human eye.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/20 ... 164007.htm

Shayalana · **Posted:** Sun Aug 01, 2010 3:56 am

Dean Radin, Ph.D on Quantum Physics 1 of 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9aNl0J8 ... re=related

Dean Radin, Ph.D on Quantum Physics 2 of 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EDaxdblI ... re=related

Dean Radin, Ph.D on Quantum Physics 3 of 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eqKs5GLQ ... re=related

Dean Radin has worked with the GCIP.

Shayalana · **Posted:** Sun Aug 01, 2010 4:20 am

David Albert, Ph.D ON Quantum Physics 1 of 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQMCknRD ... re=related

David Albert, Ph.D ON Quantum Physics 2 of 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hc5MS2lQ ... re=related

David Albert, Ph.D ON Quantum Physics 3 of 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dr6JU6Vc ... re=related

Shayalana · **Posted:** Sun Aug 01, 2010 4:37 am

William Tiller, Ph.D 1 of 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wNOCTGk6 ... re=related

William Tiller, Ph.D 2 of 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6L0G97Ux ... re=related

William Tiller, Ph.D 3 of 3

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5zlz_JMH ... re=related

William Tiller credits HeartMath for the work they have done and has aided him in his research.

Shayalana · **Posted:** Sun Aug 01, 2010 4:48 am

Fred Alan Wolf, Ph.D on Poppin the Quiff 1 of 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W5mPWmGh ... re=related

Fred Alan Wolf, Ph.D on Poppin the Quiff 2 of 2

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mykNC6v6 ... re=related

starduster · **Posted:** Sun Aug 01, 2010 11:34 am

Patten for a Pig

[url]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1669587865067156619&hl=en[googlevid]#[/url]

might want to watch this too

The Future of Food

[url]http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1669587865067156619&hl=en[googlevid]#docid=-8098965482866581381[/url]

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