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 Post subject: How Simon Manipulates
PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2011 8:01 am 
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As active members of the forum will know, my thesis is that Joseph is the real sorcerer and Simon not. Now I wish to defend it partially by pointing out specifically how what Simon says is diverging from what James himself says and the WingMakers Materials. The first point is the Earth. Simon says the intelligence is not in the heart, but that the Earth is the intelligence and that we are, in effect, ourselves this Earth. In my view this is limiting ourselves to this beautiful place which is actually, in the long run, reducing it to a prison. James says clearly that the Earth is a host consciousness, he has not said it is ours, our own as a consciousness, but the Philosophy states ours is an oversoul, inhabiting this planet, naturally. And in the Camelot interview he points out that the saviourship-model can take many forms including Earth/Nature, which is precisely what Simon is representing. Alex also pointed out how Simon is stimulating saviourship, like calling the baby we have to wait for being the Grand Portal. We can tackle every single of Simon's manipulations in this thread.

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What part of Simon, so bothers you Nathan that you would use such strong language in your thread subject.
As Simon is part of you, then are you saying your manipulate.

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Consciousness defined by is parts.
Who are 'we' in relation to consciousness?
Who am 'I' in relation to consciousness?
Identity fixation.
Identity rejection
Elder Race.



When a human species transforms its genetic mind to utilize the Sovereign Integral Network, this then becomes the "ship" upon which it sails the seas of the cosmos. And in this way, the species is allowed to become "Gods" of newly created worlds in which it can re-enact the entire process of the Grand Experiment utilizing its knowledge base and wisdom that was achieved in the previous stage of its existence. On a grand scale, this process is cast in countless worlds across the multiverse, and orchestrating all of this wondrous activity of creation is Source Intelligence and SIN. - Glossary

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WingMakers' Philosophy: Chamber One


Life Principles of the Sovereign Integral

The entity model of expression is designed to explore new fields of vibration through biological instruments and transform through this process of discovery to a new level of understanding and expression as a Sovereign Integral. The Sovereign Integral is the fullest expression of the entity model within the time-space universes, and most closely exemplifies Source Intelligence's capabilities therein. It is also the natural state of existence of the entity that has transformed beyond the evolution/saviorship model of existence and has removed itself from the controlling aspects of the Hierarchy through the complete activation of its embedded Source Codes. This is the level of capability that was "seeded" within the entity model of expression when it was initially conceived by First Source. All entities within the time-space universes are in various stages of the transformational experience and each are destined to achieve the Sovereign Integral level as their Source Codes become fully activated.

The transformational experience is the realization that the entity model of expression is capable of direct access to Source Intelligence information, and that the information of First Source is discovered within the entity level of the Sovereign Integral. In other words, the human instrument, complete with its biological, emotional, and mental capabilities, is not the repository of the entity's Source Codes. Nor is the human instrument able to reach out and gather in this liberating information -- this glorious freedom to access All That Is. It is the entity that is both the harbor of, and instrument of access to, the Source Coding activation that permits the transformational experience to manifest through the integration of the human instrument and the sovereign entity.

The transformational experience consists of the realization that perceived reality is Source Reality personified in the form of individual preferences. Thus, Source Reality and sovereign reality become inseparable as the wind and air. This confluence is realized only through the transformational experience, which is unlike anything known within the time-space universes.

There have been those upon terra-earth who have experienced a shallow breath of wind from this powerful tempest. Some have called it ascension; others have attributed names like illumination, vision, enlightenment, nirvana, and cosmic consciousness. While these experiences are profound in human standards, they are only the initial stirrings of the Sovereign Integral, as it becomes increasingly adept at touching and awakening the remote edges of its existence. What most species define as the ultimate bliss is merely the impression of the Sovereign Integral whispering to its outposts of form and nudging them to look within to their roots of existence and unite with this formless and limitless intelligence that pervades all.

The transformational experience is far beyond the calibration of the human drama much like the stars in the sky are beyond the touch of terra-earth. You can observe the stars with your human eyes, but you will never touch them with your human hands. Similarly, you can dimly foresee the transformational experience with the human instrument, but you cannot experience it through the human instrument. It is only accessed through the wholeness of the entity, for it is only in wholeness that the Source Codes and their residual effects of Source Reality perception can exist. And truly, this wholeness is only obtained when the individual consciousness is separated from time and is able to view its existence in timelessness.

Nevertheless, the human instrument is critical in facilitating the transformational experience and causing it to trigger -- like a metamorphosis -- the integration of the formful identities into the Sovereign Integral. This is the next stage of perception and expression for the entity model, and it is activated when the entity designs its reality from life principles that are symbolic of Source Reality, as opposed to the reality of an external source that is bound to the evolution/saviorship model of existence.

These life principles are Source Intelligence templates of creation. They are designed to create reality from the perspective of the Sovereign Integral and hasten its manifestation within the fields of vibration that has thus far repelled it. They are principles that construct opportunities for the integration of the entity's formless and formful identities. They are bridges that the human instrument -- with all of its componentry intact -- can experience the Sovereign Integral perception of wholeness.

As the human instrument becomes increasingly responsive to Source Intelligence it will gravitate to life principles that symbolically express the formative principles of prime creation. There are wide ranges of expressions that can induce the transformational experience of the Sovereign Integral and liberate the entity from time-space conditioning and external controls. Inasmuch as the expression can vary, the intent of the expression is quite narrowly defined as the intent to expand into a state of integration whereby the human instrument becomes increasingly aligned with the Sovereign Integral perspective.

There are three particular life principles that accelerate the transformational experience and help to align the human instrument with the Sovereign Integral perspective. They are:

1) Universe relationship through gratitude

2) Observance of Source in all things

3) Nurturance of life

When the individual applies these principles, their life experience reveals a deeper meaning to its apparently random events -- both in the universal and personal contexts.



Universe Relationship through Gratitude

This is the principle that the Universe of Wholeness represents a collective intelligence that can be personalized as a single Universal Entity. Thus, in this model of inference, there are only two entities in the entire cosmos: the individual entity and the Universal Entity. Inasmuch as the individual is impressionable and constantly changing to adapt to new information, so is the Universal Entity, which is a dynamic and living template of potential energies and experiences that are coherent and as knowable as a friend's personality and behavior.

The Universal Entity is responsive to the individual and its perceptions and expressions. It is like a composite omni-personality that is imbued with Source Intelligence and responds to the perceptions of the individual like a pool of water mirrors the image that overshadows it. Everyone in a human instrument is indeed, at their innermost core, a sovereign entity that can transform the human instrument into an instrument of the Sovereign Integral. However, this transformation is dependent on whether the individual chooses to project an image of a Sovereign Integral upon the "mirror" of the Universal Entity, or project a lesser image that is a distortion of its true state of being.

The principle of universe relationship through gratitude is primarily concerned with consciously designing one's self image through an appreciation of the Universal Entity's supportive "mirror". In other words, the Universal Entity is a partner in shaping reality's expression in one's life. Reality is an internal process of creation that is utterly free of external controls and conditions if the individual projects a sovereign image upon the mirror of the Universal Entity.

This process is an interchange of supportive energy from the individual to the Universal Entity, and this energy is best applied through an appreciation of how perfect and exacting the interchange occurs in every moment of life. If the individual is aware (or at least interested in having the awareness) of how perfect the Universal Entity supports the individual's sovereign reality, there is a powerful and natural sense of gratitude that flows from the individual to the Universal Entity. It is this wellspring of gratitude that opens the channel of support from the Universal Entity to the individual and establishes a collaboration of purpose to transform the human instrument into an expression of the Sovereign Integral.

It is principally gratitude -- which translates to an appreciation of how the inter-relationship of the individual and the Universal Entity operates -- that opens the human instrument to its connection to the sovereign entity and its eventual transformation into the Sovereign Integral state of perception and expression. The relationship of the individual with the Universal Entity is essential to cultivate and nurture, because it, more than anything else, determines how accepting the individual is to life's myriad forms and manifestations.

When the individual accepts changes in sovereign reality as the shifting persona of the Universal Entity, they live in greater harmony with life itself. Life becomes an exchange of energy between the individual and the Universal Entity that is allowed to play out without judgment and experienced without fear. This is the underlying meaning of unconditional love: to experience life in all its manifestations as a single, unified intelligence that responds perfectly to the projected image of the human instrument.

It is for this reason that when the human instrument projects gratitude to the Universal Entity, regardless of circumstance or condition, life becomes increasingly supportive in opening the human instrument to activate its Source Codes and live life within the framework of the synthesis model of expression. The feeling of gratitude coupled with the mental concept of appreciation is expressed like an invisible message in all directions and at all times. In this particular context, gratitude to the Universal Entity is the overarching motive behind all forms of expression that the human instrument aspires to.

Every breath, every word, every touch, every thought, every thing is centered on expressing this sense of gratitude. A gratitude that the individual is sovereign and supported by a Universal Entity that expresses itself through all forms and manifestations of intelligence with the sole objective of creating the ideal reality to activate the individual's Source Codes and transform the human instrument and entity in to the Sovereign Integral. It is this specific form of gratitude that accelerates the activation of the Source Codes and their peculiar ability to integrate the disparate componentry of the human instrument and the entity, and transform them to the state of perception and expression of the Sovereign Integral.

Time is the only factor that distorts this otherwise clear connection between the individual and Universal Entity. Time intervenes and creates pockets of despair, hopelessness, and abandonment. However, it is these very "pockets" that often activate the Source Codes of the entity and establish a more intimate and harmonious relationship with the Universal Entity. Time establishes separation of experience, and the perceived discontinuity of reality, which in turn creates doubt in the Universal Entity's system of fairness and overarching purpose. The result creates fear that the universe is not a mirror, but rather a chaotic, whimsical energy.

When the human instrument is aligned with the Sovereign Integral and lives from this perspective as a developing reality, it attracts a natural state of harmony. This does not necessarily mean that the human instrument is without problems or discomforts, rather it signifies a perception that there is an integral purpose in what life reveals. In other words, natural harmony perceives that life experience is meaningful to the extent you are aligned with the Sovereign Integral, and that your personal reality must flow from this strata of the multidimensional universe in order to create lasting joy and inner peace.

Gratitude is a critical facet of love that opens the human instrument to acknowledge the role of the Universal Entity and redefine its purpose as a supportive extension of sovereign reality, rather than the whimsical outreach of fate or the exacting reaction of a mechanical, detached universe. Establishing a relationship with the Universal Entity through the outflow of gratitude also attracts life experience that is transformative. Experience that is richly devoted to uncovering life's deepest meaning and most formative purpose.



Observance of Source in All Things

This is the principle that First Source is present in all realities through all manifestations of energy. IT is interwoven in all things like a mosaic whose pieces adhere to the same wall, and are thus, unified. However, it is not the picture that unifies the mosaic, but the wall upon which its pieces adhere. Similarly, First Source paints a picture so diverse and apparently unrelated that there appears to be no unification. Yet it is not the outward manifestations that unify, it is the inward center of energy upon which the pieces of diversity are layered that unifies all manifestations.

This centerpiece of energy is the collective storehouse of all life in all fields of vibration within the Universe of Wholeness. It is First Source who divests ITSELF in all forms through the projection of ITS Source Intelligence in to all fragments of life. Thus, Source Intelligence -- acting as an extension of First Source -- is the unifying energy that is the "wall" upon which all the pieces of life's mosaic adhere. Life flows from one energy Source that links all to All and one to One.

Observance of Source in All Things is the principle that all manifestations of life convey an expression of First Source. It does not matter how far the unifying energy has been distorted or perverted; the Source can be observed. It is the action of perceiving the unification of energy even when the outward manifestations appear random, distorted, unrelated, or chaotic.

When all manifestations of life are genuinely perceived as fragmentary expressions of First Source, the vibration of equality that underlies all life-forms becomes perceptible to the human instrument. Life initially emerges as an extension of Source Reality, and then, as an individuated energy frequency invested within a form. It vibrates, in its pure, timeless state, precisely the same for all manifestations of life. This is the common ground that all life shares. This is the tone-vibration of equality that can be observed within all life forms that unifies all expressions of diversity to the foundation of existence known as First Source. If an individual is able to look upon any form of life with the outlook of equality, then they are observing Source in all things.

While this may seem like an abstract concept, it is actualized through the practice of looking for the outward and inward manifestations of First Source. In a very real sense, the individual expects to observe the workings of Source Intelligence in every facet of their experience. It is the unassailable expectation that everything is in its rightful position, performing its optimal function, and serving its purpose to activate the fullest expression of its life in the present moment. It is the outlook that all life is in a state of optimal realization and experience regardless of condition or circumstance. It is the perception that life is perfect in its expression because it flows from perfection, and that no matter how divergent its manifestations are, life is an extension of Source Reality.

In light of the obvious turmoil and apparent destruction that accompanies life on terra-earth, this is an outlook or perception that seems naive. How can life -- in all its forms and expressions -- be perceived as optimal or perfect? This is the great paradox of life, and it cannot be reconciled with the human instrument's mental or emotional capabilities. It can only be understood in the context of the entity, which is deathless, limitless, timeless, and sovereign. Paradoxes exist because the human drama is too limited in scope and scale to allow a perception of wholeness to intervene and illuminate how the pieces of the puzzle are unified in perfect relation.

The dimensions of time and space and the elements of energy and matter circumscribe the human drama. It is played out upon the stages of survival and dysfunctional behavior because of the Hierarchy's methods of controlling information and manipulating conditions. The entity within the human instrument is largely unexpressed and under-utilized in the human drama, and therefore, life's apparent perversions and imperfections are seen in isolation as impediments to perfection rather than perfection itself.

Life is perfect in its resolve to expand and express an intelligence that is limitless. This is the fundamental purpose of life in all its diverse manifestations, and this is the presence of First Source -- expressing ITSELF as a vibration of equality -- that can be observed in all things. Sensory input derived from the human instrument is limited to frequencies in specific ranges that only convey an echo of this Source vibration. The true frequency is understood through deliberate and focused contemplation of equality inherent in all things, and the ability to penetrate beyond the picture of a thing to the origin of the picture.

These insights require a new sensory system beyond the five-senses that rule the human world in your time. These new senses are the outgrowth of the Source Code activation, and represent the first stage of the transformation experience. With this new perceptual ability, the human instrument will be capable of sensing not only the presence of First Source, but also the timeless essence within all life that is individualized and uniquely separate from First Source.

Calling forth the perceptions of the entity within the human instrument is the ideal method to access a lasting sensitivity to the Source vibration. This is how an individual can develop the ability to observe Source in all things. It is not only that First Source is within every individual manifestation of energy, but is also the wholeness of life itself. Thus, the principle requires an observance of Source in all ITS diverse forms of manifestation, as well as in the wholeness of life.



Nurturance of Life

Life, in this definition, is an individual's sovereign reality. It is subjective and impressionable to the human instrument. Life is the wholeness of experience flowing past the individual's field of perception in the dimension of nowness. There is never a closure to life or final chapter written. It is eternal, but not in the abstract sense of never ending or beginning, but rather in the real sense that life is ever expanding in order to express Source Intelligence in all fields of vibration within the Universe of Wholeness.

The nurturance of life is the principle that an individual is in alignment with the natural expansion of intelligence inherent within all life. This is an alignment that enhances the life-energy that flows past the individual with the clear intent of gentle support. It is the action of identifying the highest motive in all energy forms and supporting the flow of this energy towards its ultimate expression. In so doing, the action is performed without judgment, analysis, or attachment to outcome. It is simply nurturing the energy that flows from all manifestations and supporting its expression of life.

This is a departure from the normal perception that nurturing support can only be granted when energy is in alignment with personal will. However, when the individual can view life as an integrated energy flowing in the expression of expanding intelligence, life is honored as an extension of First Source. In this context, there is no energy that is misdirected or unworthy of support and nurturance. While this may seem contrary to the evidence of abusive energy upon terra-earth, even energy that is laden with "evil intent" is nevertheless energy that is flowing outward in search of a higher expression.

All forms of energy can be nurtured and supported to their highest expression, and this is the fundamental action of this principle. It requires the ability to perceive the causal motive and ultimate expression of life-energy as it passes through the individual's sovereign reality. Energy is an element of life that is so subtly interwoven with form that it is one; in much the same manner as space and time are inextricably linked in union. Energy is a motive. It is intelligent beyond the mind's ability to reason. While it is a force that can be subject to human applications that deny its highest expression, energy is always imbuing life with the motive to expand and evolve.

Life-energy is always in a state of becoming. It is never static or regressive in its natural state. The human instrument is very capable of nurturing this natural expansion of energy to forge new channels of expression and experience. In fact, it is the primary purpose of the human instrument to expand the life-energy that encircles its sovereign reality within physical existence and transform it to new levels of expression that more accurately reflect the perspective of the Sovereign Integral.

There are many specific actions that can be taken to nurture life. Each entity is, in a sense, programmed within its Source Codes to transmute energy through a tremendous variety of means. Working through the human instrument, the entity is able to collect and store energy within the human instrument and re-direct its purpose or application. The transmutation of energy can occur on either the personal or universal levels of expression. That is, within the sovereign reality of an individual, energy can be transmuted to conform to a vision of personal welfare, or aligned with a vision of universal welfare and goodwill.

One of the best methods to transmute energy is through one's belief system. All beliefs have energy systems that act like birthing chambers for the manifestation of the belief. Within these energy systems are currents that direct life experience. The human instrument is aware of these currents either consciously or unconsciously, and allows them to carry it into the realm of experience that exemplifies its true belief system.

By cultivating beliefs that expand and transform energy, the human instrument is able to engage energy systems that are nurturing to life in all its myriad forms. When beliefs are clearly defined as preferred states of being, the energy system is engaged in nowness -- not in some future time. Now. The energy system becomes inseparable from the human instrument and woven into its spirit like a thread of light. Clarity of belief is essential to engaging the energy system of the belief, and allowing the nurturance of life to prevail in all activities.

So again, the nurturance of life is critical to both personal and universal realities within the Universe of Wholeness which contains all the fields of vibration that are interlinked like threads of an infinitely expanding fabric. Thus, as the individual awakens to their creative power to transmute energy and enhance it with the clear intent of gentle support, they become transmitters of Source Reality and architects of the synthesis model of existence.

Through the ongoing application of these life principles, Source Intelligence increasingly becomes the identity of the entity, and the entity becomes the identity of the human instrument. Thus, identity is transformed, and in the wake of this transformation, the Sovereign Integral unifies the human instrument with the entity, and the entity with Source Intelligence. It is this unification and shifts of identity that is the explicit purpose in expressing the life principles of the Sovereign Integral. If there is any other intention or objective these principles will remain misunderstood and their catalytic powers dormant.

It is the perspective of the Sovereign Integral that all life is pure love in its fullest expression, and that in this single concept, all life is conceived and forever exists. This becomes the core belief from which all other beliefs arise, and by their extension, one's belief system emerges with a clear intent of supporting this fundamental perspective; of nurturing, observing, and appreciating the Universe of Wholeness as the cradle from which all life is created, evolves, and ultimately acknowledges.

These life principles are merely symbols represented in words and served to the human instrument as a potential recipe to stir awake the embers of light that tirelessly burn within. There are no specific techniques or rituals that are required to invoke the power of these principles. They are simply perspectives. In a real sense, they are intentions that attract experience that expand consciousness. They do not provide quick fixes or instant realizations. They are amplifiers of personal will and intention that clarify how one lives. Their transformative power is contained exclusively in the intent of their application.

Through these life principles of the Sovereign Integral, the individual can become a master of unlimiting the Self. Boundaries are set, veils are pulled down, and one's light is subdued, simply because external, hierarchical controls create fear of the unknown and mystical practices of a sovereign being. In these life principles, if they are truly applied with proper intent, are the tools to accelerate the emergence of the Sovereign Integral and feel its perspective, its insights, and its empowered abilities to create new realities and shape them as learning adventures that liberate and expand consciousness. This is the underlying purpose of the principles and perhaps the best reason to explore them.

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dberges wrote:
What part of Simon, so bothers you Nathan that you would use such strong language in your thread subject.
As Simon is part of you, then are you saying your manipulate.

But what kind of logic is that? Everyone and everything is part of ourselves. Does this mean manipulation doesn't happen?

I have nothing against Simon. I'm simply showing how he has been designed. The materials are for us to investigate, not to make some cult out of them or anything else than investigate and apply what we learn. I learn you people could not even handle a character out of a storybook not being the kind of hero or wizard that he seems to be, or that the true hero is hidden. Even a possibility is immediately sabotaged or called "strong language" from being presented. What children are you still. Nothing is wrong. Our work is to study.

Is this strong language?

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With that context, I hope it is clear that Jesus or Buddha or Lao Tzu or Mohammed or
Saint Germaine or any other master of their era, was on the spiritual frontier, deep in the
territory of the higher Mind, which unto itself is so vast as to make the physical universe
seem like a grain of sand. The entrance to the non-polarity realms was not nearly as
accessible as it is in this era. There were no bridges to cross over, no portals open and
operating; it was literally a wilderness without trails or paths.


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In the stillness, purposelessness, and emptiness of you, everything exists. And yet, isn’t
this precisely what human beings fear most? In the absolute center of who you are, where
the void is, do you not fear this? Perhaps it would be accurate to say that this is the origin
of fear itself. An irony wouldn’t you say, that the Sovereign Integral, that which most
clearly defines you, is feared by you. Why do you suppose this is? Why would you fear
the void and emptiness that is you? Why would you refuse to look through the portal of
your human instrument and perceive without the mind in attendance?
This is precisely why human beings are addicted to spiritual propaganda. They fear the
still-point in which they exist because they have been programmed by their HMS, and
accepted it as truth: what is the void – is but death and non-existence. Thus, they search
for the beautiful, the harmonious, the spiritual vistas of higher worlds, the descriptions of
peace and love, angelic presences, the experience of oneness and beauty, but they do not
want to go through the gateway of emptiness to get there because emptiness is death and
non-existence of the mind. And the mind is what they have come to believe is them.


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If you have ever ventured to an exotic destination, one that is culturally unlike your own,
you’re well aware that when you are in the airplane, flying over your destination, you
really have not experienced the culture yet, no matter how much you have studied it in
advance. When you arrive at your hotel, you remain outside of the culture, though you
can see the differences in the plants and animals, the architecture and buildings, and the
people on the streets, but still, you remain outside of the culture as an observer, and not a
participant.
Only when you learn the language of the people, when you meet the people in their own
dwellings – homes, shops, cafes, sports arenas, schools, churches – do you really begin to
understand the culture. This is analogous to the bridgework between the GSSC and the
Sovereign Integral. There is nothing more exotic or out of the ordinary than the language
and dwellings of the Sovereign Integral, and the deeper you travel into this land, the
stranger it will seem.
If I disclosed all of what is there in 1998, or even today, ten years later, the bridge would
only carry a handful of people. It would seem a rickety and dangerous bridge to cross
over, and many who would be curious or tempted would be talked out of crossing
because it was just too strange. And so the bridge was constructed to meet certain people
where they lived and how they believed. Those who resonated with the key terms and
definitions, or an element of poetry, or music, or art, they found a texture, or structure
that gave them a sense of connection, a sense of curiosity, and it was enough to bring
them onto the bridge.
To use my previous metaphor, they are now landing at the “airport.” They are seeing the
exotic land of the Sovereign Integral from their airplane seat, looking out of a small, glass
window into a vast, new world. Remember, the First Point, as you step from the plane, is
your breath, your heart and the virtues of its wisdom, as this is not a destination where the
language is anything more than breath and virtuous self-expression. It is this simple.
I realize there will be those who will read this interview and a hundred more questions
will flutter about them, perhaps only two or three will really matter in the moment, but
the desire for more information and knowledge is a powerful addiction of the HMS. I
would advise that you turn your attention from the acquisition of information and
knowledge, and apportion it to the application of the heart virtues to yourself and all
others within your local multiverse, and then simply listen to your breath, and each time
you turn your attention to your breath, lean a little closer to the Being inside you, in the
centermost point of your existence. Feel this bond strengthening and have the conviction
that any walls that have been placed between you, or will be placed between you, will be
torn down.

If your focus is there, you will find access to everything, including the language of the
Sovereign Integral and how to reawaken its culture within you, and live among its
dwelling places.

It is the era of transparency and expansion.

Nunti-Sunya.


James, The Camelot Interview

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As active members of the forum will know, my thesis is that Joseph is the real sorcerer and Simon not. Now I wish to defend it partially by pointing out specifically how what Simon says is diverging from what James himself says and the WingMakers Materials. The first point is the Earth. Simon says the intelligence is not in the heart, but that the Earth is the intelligence and that we are, in effect, ourselves this Earth. In my view this is limiting ourselves to this beautiful place which is actually, in the long run, reducing it to a prison. James says clearly that the Earth is a host consciousness, he has not said it is ours, our own as a consciousness, but the Philosophy states ours is an oversoul, inhabiting this planet, naturally. And in the Camelot interview he points out that the saviourship-model can take many forms including Earth/Nature, which is precisely what Simon is representing. Alex also pointed out how Simon is stimulating saviourship, like calling the baby we have to wait for being the Grand Portal. We can tackle every single of Simon's manipulations in this thread.


You are incredibly stupid if you think anyone here of substance can't see through your derisive intent and motive on this forum. You continue to prove the point of how jealous and competitive you are with James whom you cannot match so seek to destroy instead along with his works that is if you are not using(stealing) his works claiming them as your own with no credit to him. There are 2 of you in particular that can't get past your egos, you, Chrissy and Billy and you both seek to make these materials unrecognizable from their original intent and purpose. It won't happen and you will be long gone from here and forgotten like all statistics if you think for one nano second that you can interfere with something so much bigger than your twisted ego. Your days are numbered here. As usual. You are not considered an active member . You are banned and the only reason you can post is by using some fools account. That you insist on doing what you are only shows just how nasty and dark your true intent is. :roll:

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Ooops, I forgot to put "here" at the end of the last sentence.

You are incredibly stupid if you think anyone here of substance can't see through your derisive intent and motive on this forum. You continue to prove the point of how jealous and competitive you are with James whom you cannot match so seek to destroy instead along with his works that is if you are not using(stealing) his works claiming them as your own with no credit to him. There are 2 of you in particular that can't get past your egos, you, Chrissy and Billy and you both seek to make these materials unrecognizable from their original intent and purpose. It won't happen and you will be long gone from here and forgotten like all statistics if you think for one nano second that you can interfere with something so much bigger than your twisted ego. Your days are numbered here. As usual. You are not considered an active member . You are banned and the only reason you can post is by using some fools account. That you insist on doing what you are only shows just how nasty and dark your true intent is here. :roll:

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As active members of the forum will know, my thesis is that Joseph is the real sorcerer and Simon not. Now I wish to defend it partially by pointing out specifically how what Simon says is diverging from what James himself says and the WingMakers Materials. The first point is the Earth. Simon says the intelligence is not in the heart, but that the Earth is the intelligence and that we are, in effect, ourselves this Earth. In my view this is limiting ourselves to this beautiful place which is actually, in the long run, reducing it to a prison. James says clearly that the Earth is a host consciousness, he has not said it is ours, our own as a consciousness, but the Philosophy states ours is an oversoul, inhabiting this planet, naturally. And in the Camelot interview he points out that the saviourship-model can take many forms including Earth/Nature, which is precisely what Simon is representing. Alex also pointed out how Simon is stimulating saviourship, like calling the baby we have to wait for being the Grand Portal. We can tackle every single of Simon's manipulations in this thread.

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Consciousness defined by is parts.
Who are 'we' in relation to consciousness?
Who am 'I' in relation to consciousness?
Identity fixation.
Identity rejection
Elder Race.




When a human species transforms its genetic mind to utilize the Sovereign Integral Network, this then becomes the "ship" upon which it sails the seas of the cosmos. And in this way, the species is allowed to become "Gods" of newly created worlds in which it can re-enact the entire process of the Grand Experiment utilizing its knowledge base and wisdom that was achieved in the previous stage of its existence. On a grand scale, this process is cast in countless worlds across the multiverse, and orchestrating all of this wondrous activity of creation is Source Intelligence and SIN. - Glossary

But what kind of logic is that? Everyone and everything is part of ourselves. Does this mean manipulation doesn't happen?

I have nothing against Simon. I'm simply showing how he has been designed. The materials are for us to investigate, not to make some cult out of them or anything else than investigate and apply what we learn. I learn you people could not even handle a character out of a storybook not being the kind of hero or wizard that he seems to be, or that the true hero is hidden. Even a possibility is immediately sabotaged or called "strong language" from being presented. What children are you still. Nothing is wrong. Our work is to study.

Is this strong language?


As per my 'notes':
There is an Elder Race which has been manipulating the species from a position outside the 'prison' the specie has built for itself.


Because of the nature of the M5Senses, self identity is reduced to what can be seen and through seeing, what can be imagined possible.
This is why humans understand the concept of 'extraterrestrial' intelligence rather than dimensional, although as science explores further the possibility of dimensional intelligence is theorized.

An interesting item on that subject: [CLICK4LINK]

Lyricus occasionally use words which are from other sources and this is to point the seeker towards something which they think important for the seeker to uncover.
One of the words is Animus, the other Anunnaki.

Within the story frameworks, both of these are detrimental to the specie human on Earth.

The seeker is invited to research these subjects because it is no accident these particular words are used.

In relation to Anunnaki, in brief these are a specie which were certain gods for some cultures within the broader range of human diversity.

From recorded mythology, Anunnaki are a family which have their own internal politics and two brothers and their mothers - wives of the father (Anu) are involved with conflicting agendas regarding Humanity on Earth.

It would not surprise me if there were more cultures who had similar stories, but I know of one such culture - The Maoris.

James (Lyricus) made poignant effort to ensure that his voice was heard in regards to 'WingMakers' being identified as extraterrestrials with dark agenda, as per human mythology and conspiracy theory.

Around the same time James spoke of the Anunnaki as that particular specie which were they with dark agenda, having designed a great deal of programming in order to capture and enslave the consciousness of humanity.
Interestingly James takes effort to say that those plans were specifically targeted to cumulative in an event where Anu could come and save the world - and that this was seed into the belief structures of religion as 'the second coming'.

James does not give a detailed reason for this change of plan but has suggested that 'Jesus' now supports Lyricus, and this is another clues to the unfolding story.

There is no doubt about the existence of a thread through the materials which suggest that 'WingMakers' are having to deal with 'something' which interferes consistently with their own agenda and that their agenda in regard to the human specie is benevolent, while the other is not.

This could signify that Enki and Enlil are in fact reconciled to a new directive, and that Lyricus is their way of bringing this to the worlds attention - at least to those who are interested and can handle the news and that the intention os to assist (as the Elder Race) the emergence of the younger specie into the fullness of its purpose, and one which will adjust the way humans think about their situation, and redesign.

Enki and Enlil represent the duality which is the leading cause of The Human Drama.

There seems to be a good deal of information regarding Anunnaki in the book [Sitchin, Z., The Lost Book of Enki, 2002] which uncovers a story regarding the in house politics of that family specie which is somehow related to our own.

Which of course gets back to the DPBook Characters - - That is one character race which seems easier to assume about (conspiracy) than actually know and get into the skin of, which at least 2 of the DPBooks characters have experienced and perhaps Simon also.

There is little point in hoping that some of the readers will appreciate why James makes the suggestion in his introto identify with all of the characters - some of those readers have a hard time just accepting anything even slightly different from there own self identity and unproven belief systems.






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hidelight wrote:
Let's not make big statements, but investigate here around Simon. Explore. Thank you.


You are incredibly stupid if you think anyone here of substance can't see through your derisive intent and motive on this forum. You continue to prove the point of how jealous and competitive you are with James whom you cannot match so seek to destroy instead along with his works that is if you are not using(stealing) his works claiming them as your own with no credit to him. There are 2 of you in particular that can't get past your egos, you, Chrissy and Billy and you both seek to make these materials unrecognizable from their original intent and purpose. It won't happen and you will be long gone from here and forgotten like all statistics if you think for one nano second that you can interfere with something so much bigger than your twisted ego. Your days are numbered here. As usual. You are not considered an active member . You are banned and the only reason you can post is by using some fools account. That you insist on doing what you are only shows just how nasty and dark your true intent is here. :roll:

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Nat, if you intend to discuss what you believe Simon has said, then you must provide the quote - because for all we know, Simon has not said what you "interperted" as what he said, because you do that all the time with the materials ... please show us where "Simon says the intelligence is not in the heart, but that the Earth is the intelligence and that we are, in effect, ourselves this Earth. " because even with your perspective this is a true statement ... Intelligence (FSI) comes to the Heart - the heart is where FSI is recieved and transmitted .... it isn't the "pool of 'personal wisdom' that animates Life ... Nature reveals an Intelligence that awes the individual Entity - enough so to lead the HMS to believe that whom ever created Nature, is a God ... while ignoring the fact that it (Earth) received its consciousness FROM US.... WE created this Earth, it is a part of us - just try to sustain yourself, without what Nature provides freely - and in abundance, without question - equally ... Earth is not a prison ... the prison is of the MIND - and the heart is part of the HMS.


so basically, what Simon is saying, is that the Earth is the only Intelligence, that we can depend upon, because It wasn't altered - only our perspective of it was altered, when collectively we altered the GM ... James put it clearly into a balanced equation
Earth/Nature + Individual Preparation = Sovereign Integral Realization.

if it is a "balanced equation" ... it would be like saying ...1+1= 1 and IMO that is exactly what it is saying ... One Earth + One Entity = One Consciousness

when in the 1st Philo it talks about extablishing a relationship with the Universal Entity ... it was talking about EARTH - Earth IS the Universal Entity, that reflects the individual's state of Being ... From the very beginning, the insight of the Sovereign Integral is a reflection of the era in which we live...They would look at the worlds of creation and wonder, “Who created this universe? Who was behind this magnificent and magical world?” And yet it never occurred to the Sovereigns that it was they who created the universe, and whose very reflection is Nature itself.

you also ignore the Spiritual Nature of Earth and its inhabitants Nat ... Neither of these Intelligence Systems have been altered by the HMS ... and those who allow the HMS's programs to separate us from OUR Nature/Earth is what has cause us to forget who we are and why we are are here, now ... where else would you suggest we go for authentic Intelligence Nat, when we have blocked FSI from our hearts? and distorted it beyond recognition ... to the point where they don't even recognize Nature as the results of our collective intelligence.

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Nathaniel Greenstone........sometimes I think a combination of Nat and me........who realizes.....this is not all good.....as to dogma....misunderstood.....but defended to the in finite degree....arguing with Nathan....only feeds his ego......which listens and obeys the Animus remnant....moving them along....just might move him .....along.....if he does not get the point real soon......its obtuse.....thinking this re Joseph.....is so far off on an absurd tangent....but indicative to how deep.... you Nat are in to them.......so deep.....you really do not see or sense them....and this is a problem.....for they will take over.....and your Wing Maker Will.....severed......without you even knowing it happened....in your future now.....Nat.....people here are trying to help you avoid......this ....but your not cooperating......as much as you could.....James is the Golden Compass....not you.......who is a fragment of First Source imbued with its aspects....and you have the power within you to cast them out....and resonate upwards.....instantly....use this card.....and grow......now....would be a good time.


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This thread is not qualified for the purpose of discussion on this forum. Originally he called it "Simon(s) Lies". We already know what his parasitical intent is and it is not welcome here and especially since he is banned. The reason for that is rather obvious and I have had enough of him and anyone else who is not here for real discussion of these works. Its time for these boys to grow up or get out. The time is long past holding onto to their Oedipus Complex . James is not their father and everyone who is here thinking they can have sincere discussions about the materials should be able too without these 2 clowns inserting covert agendas based on their hatred for James and these works which both Bill( who had to beg Solaris for some time to get back on this forum after being banned) and CV have made very personal. Neither Christophe or Bill deserve to be here simply because they have not earned it with something so simple as respect for the forum's creator and the person and his works who the forum was created to discuss. These 2 have no respect for anyone here and its time they shape up or ship right on outta here. And believe me I have no problem making that happen in what ever way I can. I have had enough of their lies and manipulation. Enough is enough.

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I understand that it sounds far off, but remember James told us this is a strange Land. I sincerely believe this is so. Joseph is the sorcerer, Simon a cheat. I don't say this to offend anyone. I love James and appreciate this is the moment to say this. Don't get so upset. Be at least civil. Listen to what your heart tells you about this if you are so moved. It is all about the heart. Don't behave like beasts, shouting at another or ban them. There is no-one to blame but ourselves when we are angry in our heart.

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Simon says watch this video:

http://youtu.be/3VLcLH97eRw

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James: Well, if nothing else he is a very good diversion, you see. This is the way Spirit works and is a good example of the fine-grain details of life, where in the certain frequency of 30 or 40 minutes and Mateo is just fine, and he suddenly jumps up on the table and asserts himself. Well, to me, it's Spirit's nudge to ease off the gas pedal a bit and return to the playful side of life. It’s all a rhythm, you see.

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http://forum.wingmakers.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=35&t=2187&p=87169#p87169

I realize that people are inclined to reach to the heavens when they think about their spirituality, but sometimes what we search for in the branches can only be found in the roots. Earth plays a central role in the story of the Dorman Prophecy, expressed through the characters of stone, trees, animals and other elements. Earth is the grounding force in this story and because its presence is so strong, the subtle energetics of the higher dimensions can be used like a counterpoint in a musical composition.
James DPBook Intro

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As one of the characters, Earth too needs to be understood/identified with.

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Shayalana wrote:
This thread is not qualified for the purpose of discussion on this forum. Originally he called it "Simon(s) Lies". We already know what his parasitical intent is and it is not welcome here and especially since he is banned. The reason for that is rather obvious and I have had enough of him and anyone else who is not here for real discussion of these works. Its time for these boys to grow up or get out. The time is long past holding onto to their Oedipus Complex . James is not their father and everyone who is here thinking they can have sincere discussions about the materials should be able too without these 2 clowns inserting covert agendas based on their hatred for James and these works which both Bill( who had to beg Solaris for some time to get back on this forum after being banned) and CV have made very personal. Neither Christophe or Bill deserve to be here simply because they have not earned it with something so simple as respect for the forum's creator and the person and his works who the forum was created to discuss. These 2 have no respect for anyone here and its time they shape up or ship right on outta here. And believe me I have no problem making that happen in what ever way I can. I have had enough of their lies and manipulation. Enough is enough.

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Ananake wrote:
Simon says watch this video:

http://youtu.be/3VLcLH97eRw

Quote:
James: Well, if nothing else he is a very good diversion, you see. This is the way Spirit works and is a good example of the fine-grain details of life, where in the certain frequency of 30 or 40 minutes and Mateo is just fine, and he suddenly jumps up on the table and asserts himself. Well, to me, it's Spirit's nudge to ease off the gas pedal a bit and return to the playful side of life. It’s all a rhythm, you see.

:) quote not entirely correct, but that was the whole transcript.

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Shayalana wrote:
This thread is not qualified for the purpose of discussion on this forum. Originally he called it "Simon(s) Lies". We already know what his parasitical intent is and it is not welcome here and especially since he is banned. The reason for that is rather obvious and I have had enough of him and anyone else who is not here for real discussion of these works. Its time for these boys to grow up or get out. The time is long past holding onto to their Oedipus Complex . James is not their father and everyone who is here thinking they can have sincere discussions about the materials should be able too without these 2 clowns inserting covert agendas based on their hatred for James and these works which both Bill( who had to beg Solaris for some time to get back on this forum after being banned) and CV have made very personal. Neither Christophe or Bill deserve to be here simply because they have not earned it with something so simple as respect for the forum's creator and the person and his works who the forum was created to discuss. These 2 have no respect for anyone here and its time they shape up or ship right on outta here. And believe me I have no problem making that happen in what ever way I can. I have had enough of their lies and manipulation. Enough is enough.

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Let's not make big statements, but investigate here around Simon. Explore. Thank you.

I realize that 'big statements' are not everyone's preference yet I did bring it back to Simon. If you want a tree cut down, you can whittle away at it in small bites, or get it out of the way with bigger ones.
What my 'big statement' shows are the connections.



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Shayalana wrote:
This thread is not qualified for the purpose of discussion on this forum. Originally he called it "Simon(s) Lies". We already know what his parasitical intent is and it is not welcome here and especially since he is banned. The reason for that is rather obvious and I have had enough of him and anyone else who is not here for real discussion of these works. Its time for these boys to grow up or get out. The time is long past holding onto to their Oedipus Complex . James is not their father and everyone who is here thinking they can have sincere discussions about the materials should be able too without these 2 clowns inserting covert agendas based on their hatred for James and these works which both Bill( who had to beg Solaris for some time to get back on this forum after being banned) and CV have made very personal. Neither Christophe or Bill deserve to be here simply because they have not earned it with something so simple as respect for the forum's creator and the person and his works who the forum was created to discuss. These 2 have no respect for anyone here and its time they shape up or ship right on outta here. And believe me I have no problem making that happen in what ever way I can. I have had enough of their lies and manipulation. Enough is enough.

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A small sentence in between others I wrote (in conversation) in another thread was: Simon lies. First I called this thread How Simon Manipulates truth, but removed the last word because truth is not an abstraction to manipulate. Even the word manipulate is not something bad. We all manipulate energy for instance. But the truth is that I did not first call this thread Simon(s) Lies, whatever this may mean but that's a lie in itself. This is unimportant, but I do choose to say this because it can be seen so many times, those little untruths, completely absurd accusations, why? Is it just because you're not very awake to what is actually occuring? Take care. That's all one can say.

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