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 Post subject: Q&A From James? Has anyone seen this?
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Q1: The 2001 changes introduced the concept of a superior Central Race (of which the WingMakers are supposedly a part) which can save us, of a Lyricus teaching order from this race, and of a mysterious "grand portal" leading to scientific proof of the soul. None of these concepts were part of or even mentioned on the original WingMakers website. Yet the insertion of these key concepts was among the first changes to the website. These concepts are quite different from the original WingMakers writings, which were all about opening ever more to divine wisdom from within ourselves, and about moving beyond the teacher/student ordering of the hierarchical paradigm to recognize the divine equality of all beings.
A1: The changes, or, as I would prefer to have them understood, additions, within the WingMakers site that you reference in your question exist for reasons I will describe below. They were not added to imbue a sense of external authority or artificial layering of hierarchal controls from a far-flung race of superior beings; quite the contrary I assure you. Let me start at the beginning of the mythology—though this is, I’ll dutifully inform you, the shorthand version.
The WingMakers are the future of humanity ascended into a higher dimensional, albeit human format—one that is not constrained by time and space. Within the WingMakers (or Central Race) is an organization known as the Teachers of Light and Sound, or, in the context of the WingMakers mythology, the Lyricus Teaching Order (LTO). The LTO exports its teachings to emerging, humanoid civilizations within a local universe for the purpose of activating the specie’s awareness of its grander purpose as a collective entity. This activation takes many, many forms, some recognizable and some completely invisible. Over time, as the species evolves through the second, third, and fourth dimensions, it begins to nudge against the fifth dimension, which is the time we are presently in.
There are within the human species those who operate in the second, third, and fourth dimensions as their dominant realities even today, but the Collective Consciousness is measured in ratios, and the present ratio is centered on what I will call the lower-midpoint of the fourth dimension, but this will be shifting very rapidly over the next four and half years to the higher midpoint of the fourth dimension, which is the gateway to the fifth dimension. This shift, though it may seem small in terms of degree, is actually the most radical shift since the inception of the planet. The dimensions are not logarithmic in their scope and scale, and the higher one ascends the more expansive they become.
I understand that the framework of dimensions instills a hierarchical ordering of the universe, but this is the method in which a species—in this case, humanity—ascends the spiral staircase of consciousness and ultimately unifies through the tempering of the lower dimensions so it may employ the higher dimensional capacities and capabilities as co-creators of First Source and Source Intelligence. Without this tempering, the human species would retain its quarantine from the higher frequencies of the Universal Spirit that will unite it and anoint it as co-creators. All of this applies to the species as a whole, not individuals. Individuals can operate as cocreative outposts of First Source, but if unconnected to a species-wide movement, they remain locked out of the grand design embedded in the imaginings of our Creator.
The WingMakers Materials are one of the activators that the LTO has exported to this planet at this time, designed for those within the human species who are connected to the Grand Portal discovery. Embedded within these materials are encoded data streams that are time-artifacts of the Light and Sound of First Source, stepped down into dimensional frequencies that anyone within the human family can access, if they desire. It is not that individuals cannot activate themselves, or lack the natural capacity to shift dimensionally. They can and do. The problem is that the “noise” levels are very high within the world because of the spread of consciousness from the second to the fifth dimension. In other words, the species is stretched, in a sense, across four major dimensions and this creates noise. Noise in this sense: The frequencies that are radiating from the human family (and because of human invention) are dissonant and incoherent, competing and interfering with the field of unity, which is the sub-quantum bedrock from which we all arise. Amid this noise, the signal of First Source is diminished, and sometimes indistinguishable from the noise itself.
You can think of it this way. Deep in the woods on an autumn day, if you are quiet and focused, you can hear a single leaf hit the forest floor with amazing clarity—even at a distance of 20 meters. But in the heart of the city, you will never have that experience because the ambient noise level is too high. The signals of nature are lost in the swell of mechanical inventions—sirens, buses, whirring hard disks, HVAC systems, cars, and even electromagnetic fields. If something could transport you, momentarily, from the city to the forest, and you could tune in to the subtle sounds, you would be startled at what your body can perceive.
Again, this is all about ratios. As a species approaches the fifth dimension, its variation and dimensional separation is what generates the dissonant noise field. First Source, as you can well imagine, is fully aware of this phenomenon and has established compensatory systems. One of these is to boost the signal of unity by aligning the planetary position relative to Central Sun or the galactic source of higher dimensional frequencies. This alignment is not happenstance or coincidental, it is all part of a highly orchestrated plan. The other way is to create “pockets” of coherence that provide a sober, exploratory entrance to the deeper teachings that empower the individual to activate their energetic responsibility—the transmission of their personal energy system to the benefit of their fellow creatures and the planet upon which they live.
Perhaps the compensatory system that is least understood is that of the planet itself. As an entity of consciousness, earth is dimensionally ascending according to it own plan. As the human species spreads and extends the reach of its consciousness, it signals the planet that it is time to shift dimensionally into a higher frequency field. Earth is undergoing this dimensional shift now and will complete it over the next four and half years. There is, as Hollywood coined it, the “Perfect Storm” of human consciousness spread, galactic alignment, and intentional planetary dimensional shift. This confluence of interlocking processes is, as previously stated, carefully orchestrated through Spirit or Source Intelligence.
This particular aspect (planetary shift) requires, in most cases, a parallel planet to be engineered to provide a maturing environment for those whose energetic, subatomic structures are not suited or properly conditioned for the higher dimensional frequencies in which earth is unerringly approaching. I will use an analogy to ensure clarity. Imagine that there was a group of fleas riding atop a wild dog. The dog was subject to temperature extremes, running through the brush, and a variety of other challenges—all of which favored the fleas that had conditioned themselves to hang on and adapt to the conditions present in the wilderness. Those that couldn’t hang on were mercifully placed on a domesticated dog that was appropriately pampered in a fenced, manicured yard.
Admittedly, while this is a crude analogy, it does make the point that humans are guests upon earth, and earth is indeed the host. Those unable to adapt to the frequencies of the new earth, will be gently “shuttled”, reincarnationally speaking, to a planet comparable to earth so they may progress in their own time. It is somewhat like cell division, where the human family divides into two worlds, each the “zygote” of a new species divided only by time and space, and ultimately unified when time and space recede beneath the horizon of eternity. (This is an echo of the relationship between the WingMakers and Humanity.)
The evolutionary journey of the species is set with checkpoints that typically lay as dimensional barriers. Frequency coherence is the key attribute by which a species can pass through the checkpoint and obtain a higher frequency experience of their human instrument and the planet upon which they live. The ultimate checkpoint is the Grand Portal, which stands between the higher 4th and lower 5th dimensional plane of existence.
The Grand Portal was introduced in the later works of the WingMakers as a means to depict the underlying purpose of the work. The Grand Portal signifies a shift of humanity from the 4th dimension to the 5th dimension, and while this shift is still far in the future (insofar as the human species is concerned); it will become understood by science in approximately 75 years and become the backbone of science and religion as they merge into one integrated system of experience and expression.
Thus, the additions to the WingMakers Materials were key elements pointing to the Grand Portal. They were required additions in order to aptly define the human trajectory of evolution. What you have sensed was simply the shift of emphasis from the individual rendering of the “activator” to that of the human species. When this shift was made, it appeared to change the materials, ordering them into a more hierarchical structure, but that is only a result of the introduction of the Grand Portal, which necessitated a more species-level depiction of the materials.
The role and definition of the LTO was delineated as part of the disclosure of the Grand Portal, since the LTO helps to disseminate this activating vision to the species. Again, you can argue that any organization in charge of activating a vision and mission as broad as the Grand Portal is hierarchical in nature, but I would ask you, if not the LTO, who? Who would provide this architecture of human achievement? The movement of the human family into the fifth dimension is a collective crossing; it is not the purview of any one individual, or for that matter, organization.
It is not enough for the individual to achieve cosmic consciousness while in the human instrument. To what end? To write poetry like Whitman? To espouse new philosophical insights like Plato? Or perhaps, more metaphysical elaborations like Bohm? Individuals achieve cosmic consciousness and it opens them to a finer mesh connection to the Universal Field, and they become transmitters of the ability within the human family. But the new consciousness that is now forming within the human family is not rooted in the historical insights of God or Spirit, but in an intelligence that is present in every square nanometer of space, every moment of time and every point of energy, and this consciousness is awakening inside the human instrument within all who are prepared so we can become the universal species as envisioned by the LTO.
This is not a time of individual ascension and then dutiful service to teach. Rather it is a time of unification and collective intelligence working to move the species from separatist isolationism to universal connection and awareness.

Q2: Among other major changes in 2001, I was amazed to watch the interviews section of the site change so that some parts were completely deleted, others added, and certain distances of stars mentioned were even changed. Why would anyone go to the trouble of changing the distances of the stars mentioned? If there is only one question you can answer, this is the one that is most important to me. When I compared the original interviews with the changed version, it became quite clear to me that someone was trying to hide something.
A2: There were a handful of changes made in the interviews, but I’m not sure why this would be so important to anyone, especially the type of changes you’ve referenced in your question. The simple and prosaic answer is that I created slight variations in the WingMakers Materials as a means to track them. As you’re undoubtedly aware, placing content on the web is different than a book format in the sense of the copyright controls. Within the first year of release there were several unscrupulous individuals who were packaging the WingMakers content and selling it to others. Others were not selling it, but essentially appropriating its content under their own name or brand. I was aware that this would be an attribute of using the web as a distribution center for these works, and wanted to track the permutations.

Q3: I would also point out that for the first couple years after 2001, virtually no mention was made on the website of the gradual, yet significant changes being made. Clearly significant money was supplied to create the sophisticated changes made to the website in a gradual way so that they wouldn't be easily noticed. Can you tell me where that money was coming from for all this?
A3: The projects related to WingMakers.com, Lyricus.org, and EventTemples.org are all funded 100% through the sales of the WingMakers CDs and art reproductions.

Q4: I will share honestly with you my suspicion that some highly intelligent group, which obviously has ample funds, took control and gradually changed the original website, distorting the information so that those seeking the deep WingMakers wisdom would be subtly led back towards hierarchical ways of thinking. I suspect James is the spokesperson or public face for this powerful group. The WingMakers would never have considered themselves part of a superior race or recommended following the teachings of a special order of teachers. The deepest wisdom resides within each one of us. Those of us who understood and resonated deeply with the original material knew without doubt as soon as the changes began to be implemented that the new material was of a different source.
A4: I think I have answered this question already, but to put a finer point on it, I would add that while the deepest wisdom resides within the individual, there is no one who finds it without help. There is a need to have teachers and way showers. There is a need to have activating content. There is a need to have one another to inspire the insights and fire the imagination. The Universal Field of Living Truth flows underneath each of us just as surely as water flows beneath the ice of a frozen river. But there are certain outlooks, certain perspectives, and certain techniques where the interface to the deeper truths is improved, and it is easier to break through and draw it into your life.
I can assure you that the source of the information did not change; the mission broadened, as planned, and the work reflected this.
The entire body of work will unfold and it will continue to change, and certainly not for the sake of confusing anyone or watering down the content’s truth. Rather, it will change because the mission is multidimensional. For example, the WingMakers materials resonate and activate different frequency domains of the human instrument. There are certain passages of music and poetry that are utterly without connection to the mind. The art is the same way, it activates different recesses of the heart one time and the mind another. The philosophy of Chamber 2 is very different than the Lyricus discourses, and the discourses are very different from the Event Temples e-paper entitled Living from the Heart. The animation from the Event Temples is very different than the Meditations of Time-Space DVD.
All of the content is connected to a larger plan, and if you slice it into sections and compare one section with another, you will see differences to be sure, but you may also miss the larger relationship—the larger plan—both of the content, as well as its useful service to your own life and purpose.
There is so much information in the public domain that pertains to the spiritual realms, some of it is reinforcing and resonant, but most of it is splitting and separating the consciousness of humanity. For example, today I received a letter from a young man in Sao Paulo, a partial quote follows:
“What is happening? What is it all about? This theories. This prophecies. Hollow Earth, Shamballa, Agartha, Astral Travel, Channelings, Telepathy, Nibiru, Annunaki, The Mayan Calendar, Planet X, Ashtar, The Armageddon. I'm sorry but, i don't know if i'm the only one, but i'm really lost. I Don't know what to do. Which way i should go? What should i believe? What can i do? I'm so lost. Seriously. I'm so lost.”
Now, this person is only 18 years old, so he has less life experience than some, but you can hear the confusion and frustration in his voice, and his sentiments speak for thousands, if not millions, of others. The list he cites could have been ten times longer, but the point remains: How do any of us—in the face of the separation that exists in our philosophical realm—find agreement in belief? And not only agreement, but, more importantly, a sense of confidence that we are on the right path, the path of enlightenment, and not further confusion or the distraction of half truths.
We all have access to the Living Truth within us, and yet we remain tethered to our doubts and fear-based living. This is the mirrored reflection of the spread of consciousness, that, as a collective thing, is not coherent and therefore it is not aligned to the Living Truth. Today a thousand, no, a hundred thousand writers speak their truth and share it, but the resulting picture of “truth” is a blurry mosaic that casts doubt on the human mind’s ability to define truth, let alone a path into enlightenment.
Does this mean that humanity requires a savior? Does it show evidence that the spiritual realm, as an object of knowledge, is unknowable? No, not in my opinion, but it does suggest that the six heart virtues and their everyday application and expression is a far better route to forming a spiritual purpose than the framing of words in a philosophical soup. Too much is made of the word choice instead of the behavior choice. It is through the latter that we define our truth, and this is the living truth that flows from the innermost worlds of our existence into the outermost worlds of our five senses and physical body.
We are here to be of service, and this applies to each and every one of us. Our service contribution is the energetic transmission contained in our expression of the six heart virtues, and our ability to achieve and sustain personal coherence in our daily affairs and relationships. This is the real value in the spiritual life because it does not separate with words, but rather bonds with behaviors. And it injects meaningfulness into the smallest moments of our life.
Our media and popular culture make the focus of life a quest for glamour and prestige and power and money. We are seduced by these things because they are burned so deeply into our psyche that it is near impossible to resist. But even those few who achieve these things feel lost, perhaps even more so as a result of their achievement. The thing that we desire most is meaning through the expression of our deepest purpose—not our passion, but our purpose.
So you see it does not matter if people draw from their own well and bring forward the powerful truths that live within them, because even these so-called truths, if they seek expression only in words have a shelf life of usefulness of one moment, which, as I’m sure you’ll agree, is exceedingly brief. But the expression in the behaviors of appreciation, compassion, humility, forgiveness, understanding, and valor, these leave an energetic “fragrance” that lasts forever because it entangles and resonates with the Universal Field, and Spirit reapplies this energy to the betterment of the planet and all who live upon her. In short, we need more people who apply the six heart virtues even in the most insignificant corners of their life.
I don’t say this lightly, either. I am well aware that it is not easy to outflow compassion to someone who just gave you the finger after cutting you off on the highway. It is not easy to understand why there is so much hatred surfacing between religious organizations or governments or members of the human family. It is not easy to forgive someone who wrongs you intentionally. But this is what is required of those who will assist the human family to become unified and coherent so it may knock upon the door of the Grand Portal, seeking entry into the fifth dimension as a coherent collective and not simply as a group—large as it may be—of individuals.
I hope my responses provide some measure of understanding to your questions.
From my world to yours,
James

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 Post subject: Re: Q&A From James? Has anyone seen this?
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yes...this was discussed two another topics, it was a letter written by James, in response to to Fred Burks' questions that he posted on his website... about a month ago. viewtopic.php?f=21&t=1498&hilit=fred+burks

and again here: viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1499

I am curious, where did you find this in this format... ? link please

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starduster,
great posting without pasting again the same information, by using a link to the place where the original posting can be found. One of the things in James' interview was the use of words, simple and to the point. You did a great job.

AMW could have used his link to the Q&A's where he found them, then asked the question if any one had seen them. It would have same result and be aware of the how much broadband space this site as Ernest must pay for what we use.

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It's my understanding that pictures do not use up the broadband since they are actually on a different server? Also a good idea to send Solaris (Ernest) money.

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AMW could have used his link to the Q&A's where he found them, then asked the question if any one had seen them. It would have same result and be aware of the how much broadband space this site as Ernest must pay for what we use.
Darlene


text takes up relatively little bandwidth. what eats most websites are bmp vs. jpg images and downloading files. I pay $5 a month for my wingmakers decode website with about 3MB bandwidth per month. It doesn't have the traffic this website does, but I had to familiarize myself with websites/bandwidth and cost.

Many people run their own websites, some with more traffic than this one. I recently spoke to one webmaster who states these shell-forums (yes, it's a shell and that's why all these forums look alike) cost about $30 per month to have up monthly. Something like a eventtemples.net might run about $100 (due to the downloads).

The proper thing to do is to financially disclose to the stakeholders. How much is it costing per month, how much did you get in pay pal donations per month?

Starduster and the others, I made the mistakes in the past with putting links to important information...like Harmon's material....only for them to close down or shut off websites and losing information all together, cause, people would depend on links and never actually hardcopy information....

Now it's here :-)

Darlene, I noticed your absence for a considerable amount of time and acknowledge your return...

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by your own admission and estimation, AMW, solaris pays at least $100 per month to keep this forum's archives available....now multiply that by the number of years it is been up :shock:

There are plenty of ISPs that offer free webspace (msn for one) for the standard membership fee of $22 a month, so the fees you are paying for your website, are not really necessary, and it is your choice to pay or not. While it was Solaris' original intention to create a mirror site,( as demonstrated in the lack of a forum when it first appeared) to make the wingmaker's materials more accessible (faster downloading times etc) for the European members...he told me that he had no intention of creating a forum until he saw a crying need for one when the original forum was closed down...no one asked or told him to do this...that is just the kind of generous person he is. I doubt that many of you have express anything more than a superficial thanks for what this contributes to your own personal growth, other than what you have expressed in the first week it was launched.

I think it is rude and inconsiderate to ask a person "how broke are you? " and demand an accounting of their expenses, when they see a "donation" option in the website... since I post more than others, I, without a second thought was grateful for the opportunity contribute to continue to make this forum available to everyone...I did not question whether Solaris needed the money, I appreciated the service he provides.

If it had anything to do with money, I am sure Solaris would have taken me up on my offer to pay for it all, with the option to be the moderator...LOL I still encourage him to charge a set fee for membership...because it would get rid of the griping freeloaders and those only here to promote themselves... that have no real interest in discussing the materials. Five bucks a month isn't gonna break anyone if we all contributed... but because I know very few are contributing, I pay five times that amount and skip a movie ..from my monthly budget...because it provideds guaranteed satisfaction for me.

All forums are formated...what, pray tell, does this have to do with the price of tea in China...I have been to several forums that totally suck compared to this one, and am grateful that it receives regular upgrading. IMO it has nothing to do with solaris' budget, he is, as many of you are aware, a professional webmaster and I trust his choice of formats serve its purpose well...Donating to this forum is simply a way to show your appreciation...and is just one more opportunity to practice the heart's virtues...by putting your money where your mouth is. If you are broke, the least you could do is click on the google links -you don't have to read them- but they are there to help cover some of the expenses and the topics are selected by web-bots using key words to promote averts of similar content...not solaris...each click is worth about a dime and they add up when we take one second to click into them.

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as for posting articles other than links...my experience has been that most are too lazy to even click on a link...and when someone posts a "teaser" to encourage an opportunity for others to use their own discernment of a topic, they assume by one sentence they know what is being revealed by the article that someone else is inspired to share...tisk tisk. I think your reason for not posting the link is lame...but so-be-it...if you think there is someone to protect for taking this subject out of context and putting their own spin on it... then I respect your decision to defend that sort of behavior as an expression of a sovereign individual.

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I think it is rude and inconsiderate to ask a person "how broke are you? " and demand an accounting of their expenses


Curious how you thought what I said was rude but asking me to shorten my posts cause I am sucking up bandwidth was not.....

when I quote I quote just the essentials...some people qoute the entire posting (like we didn't see it in the comment above the reply). These endless blue boxes within blue boxes within blue boxes.....

Make a comment about how much bandwidth I am sucking up and how much it cost solaris, then don't complain when you get a response "well, just how much is it costing him."

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I see you missed the point... and I agree that "quoting" an entire post is not only a waste of bandwidth, but also distracting, when simply addressing the poster makes more sense...but oh well...I also agree that we should not be limited when inspired to express our feeling on a topic...even if it require an entire page to get the point across...please read my last paragraph again...it agrees with your perspective of not just providing links to subjects you find important.

my point was...people shouldn't have to be asked to contribute...for what ever reason, if they truly appreciate a gift, it is human nature to reciprocate with some form of gratitude...in this case a "donation" that lessens the burdens of maintaining a public forum. A discerning individual, would have been alerted to a financial burden, when the google adds were put up...months before the "donation" button appeared...

forgive me for expressing a learned behavior...by saying I think it is rude to question ones financial status...perhaps you were raised differently.

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6,867 posts equals a WHOLE lodda bandwith :!:

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which I am more than happy to pay for :lol:

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Good. I certainly hope so. :!:

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hAYA StD...
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Individuals can operate as cocreative outposts of First Source, but if unconnected to a species-wide movement, they remain locked out of the grand design embedded in the imaginings of our Creator.

an' from tha "j"interview thread...
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I was a little bewildered by the lack of discussion in this thread, and other than an comparison of what we thought James' presence or "voice" would be like to our own expectations, I don't see much gratitude being expressed. Maybe you missed the point where he said that what we express is felt by all...including ourselves... or how expressing gratitude and appreciation, is what will "balance" the world.

ahhh...is there any need for "text" if TRUE gratitude is felt by all...or, is it tha ones who are not really true...(k)not *feeling* deep inside...tHat would feel a NEED to see, tha text...?
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I forgive your efforts to control what I am inspired to contribute to the topic of Global Meditations, and your lack of appreciation for what I share.

My only concern is that we become aware of efforts being taken to limit the ability to organize events where a collective voice for equality is allowed, and very much needs to be heard so that others can(?) participate in this effort...I assure you, these are not expressing a "political" agenda but major concerns for all citizens of the planet and an opportunity to "meditate" on global solutions in a collective effort.

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The problem is that the “noise” levels are very high within the world because of the spread of consciousness from the second to the fifth dimension. In other words, the species is stretched, in a sense, across four major dimensions and this creates noise. Noise in this sense: The frequencies that are radiating from the human family (and because of human invention) are dissonant and incoherent, competing and interfering with the field of unity, which is the sub-quantum bedrock from which we all arise. Amid this noise, the signal of First Source is diminished, and sometimes indistinguishable from the noise itself.
You can think of it this way. Deep in the woods on an autumn day, if you are quiet and focused, you can hear a single leaf hit the forest floor with amazing clarity

starduster, questions please...do you think "james' group" cannot hEAR tha "silent-gratitude" emanating from tha *heART's/bedrock* that do apreciate tha efforts...?
do you "think" tha "mission" of "unity" is based on empty(?)noisy "platitudes"...?
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hmn...
do you know tha difference between a "download" an' an "upload"...?...this forum has no "files" to DOWNLOAD...buttah, yeah, can upload...fROAM...yes?
tHA above 3, are sites to "download" from...si?

*O*...anna p.s.t...this uk forum were already (pre-prepared) an' ready>>>BEFORE tha zero one went down...lol...do ya "think" solaris saw it comin'...?
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how many of tha posts are quoting/copying/pasting wingmakers (already available an' seen), an' what is you...per-centage...wise?
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lol...amw, re:
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when I quote I quote just the essentials...some people qoute the entire posting (like we didn't see it in the comment above the reply). These endless blue boxes within blue boxes within blue boxes.....

eye "think/feel" this habit(?)at came about because of two profusers doing switchy post tHangs...lol...y'know, just like, "take a picture of a moment"... *winks* :D

oh yeah too...eye find tha "quote" function very nice if one has wAVES that could be added with/towards a specific post'er...y'know, skip over all tha "clutters"...an' splay by "title" who one is intending to have a conversation with... :)

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lol...didya notice that for StD to be "willing" to pay comes with tha "condition/string" of bein' tha "mode-rator/controller" of this forum...?...lol

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Ebyam, I think if you were to "do unto others as you would have them do unto you"... and consider how you would feel if I constantly critiqued your post, you wouldn't be so inclined to find faults in others eh?

My contributions to this forum are one way, that I express my gratitude for the materials, I am acting upon inspiration...whether you believe that or not, is your privelege...and as James said in the interview, it is instinctual for one with the ability, to help the fish out of the trap. I am following my heart, and doing what I can, to the best of my ability...if everyone contributed as much as I do, this would be a very lively forum ... generating all sort of attracting energy to the "truth seeker"... as we discuss the materials, which I often quote - for instant reference, as a courtesy...while fulfilling the original intent of the WMF.

If I were handing out dollars instead of posts...I bet you wouldn't be counting...ha ha

and no...having experienced life in a family that only expressed perceived faults, and never expressed gratitude or love for its members, inspires within me a desire to express gratitude ... outloud...so that my genuine feelings of appreciation are not hidden nor can they be misunderstood as a failure to appreciate the efforts of others. A person is never diminished by saying "thank you"- I promise you, you will never regret saying it but you may, if you don't... and as the quote reminds us... expressing gratitude is a trans formative opportunity that allows the "true identity" of a person to be revealed and is what creates an exchange of energy between the individual and the Universal Entity...or whomever they are expressing gratitude to :wink:

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lol...didya notice that for StD to be "willing" to pay comes with tha "condition/string" of bein' tha "mode-rator/controller" of this forum...?...lol


it is a standing joke between solaris and I... I know he would never allow this forum to be moderated even slightly ...we both know that what IS, is what should be, and even the most dysfunctional behavior, serves a purpose, even if it is only offering us the opportunity to express virtues of the heart.

I welcome the opportunity to donate to this work...in any way I can.

and fyi...I was asked to be THE moderator of the AMerican Forum (for free)...and turned it down :lol:

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Darlene,

Of all the threads you decided to come post too, after being gone for a while, is it true, that your husband John wrote that reply to Fred?

Well, let me word this differently....the mortal individual who replied to Fred in the email, was it in fact, your husband John?

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starduster, do you understand tha difference between *heARTfelt* intelliGENTs CRITIQUE...plse see jarcq's re:scent for *A*>>>*Prime example*...smells like, sounds like, looks like, feels like...tastes like...hmmm...full/gratitude>>>expresSING...
heh, whether a "personal" likes it or not...UNpartial>>>tha "appreciation sHows"...eye *feel*, that's called "learnIN.G"...
...and..."criticismzzz"...in oneway's Takes...?
what's an empty "platitude"...?
i do "hope" that you can accept my own views...as eye am seeing yours displaying>>>are your views...er, that which you choose to be, is not my way an' eye can accept you being anything you want, buttah, on your OWN turf...ok...*I*LOVE*TWO-WAYS*...*Bows*...
who could ever (pretend to) OWN (con-troll) tha earth...?...lol...*S/HE* seams to HAVE *heARTh* HErSelf~~~ ;)
all ways<<<*Thanks*U*Being*...re:guardless of tha NUMBer$ of tha po$t$

*O*, anna...i (an' many/every/others) have also been "offered" manymanymany things...so...what does that mean...?
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hAYA amw...that's a funny *Q*...hehehe...i do know...er, were sent a "free" copy of ch17 paper...because>>>it were stated by mr. lock(?), theta my own research an' postings on tha Xed forum (heart throbs/brain pops threads) were very HELP.FULL in tha deciphering of tha painting...lol

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I have never received nor read, any of Mr. Locke's work.

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lol...yeah, well, ahhh...it were quite a "surprise" for me too...as tha only "merchandise" i have purchased from tha "re:mod:led" site were tha fs disc, 11-17, an' 18-24...to hear what watt...then one day (years later), *poof*, i have a "present" in my mail (note: tha only thing i have received from, too) an' eye also noted tha "said" intent, *gift* because of~~~
...i tried to "reply" *Thank You*....buttah, my send were kicked back at me...sais, could not deliver to that address/nonexistant...lol...daze later i receive another *Q* from chris...wanting to know if i had received...(said) 'cause he did not hear from me...lol...hmmm...seems he has a "rotating" addy...changes every time...

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Ebyam...perhaps if you would stick to the topic being discussed, and not try to point out what you see as discrepancies in my "style"...by comparing replies from different discussions about different subjects as if I were programed to respond in a certain way and had NO feelings...lol...I would find your remarks "constructive". If I believed I was accomplished at expressing my feelings, I would be writting books OK. This is practice for me...being "in the moment" snicker.

as it is, I am only guessing at what you are really trying to say with your "style" and end up just going with what I feel coming from you... (being addressed as std -sexually transmitted disease-which has become as predictable as oona's reactions to my personality)...which are based solely on YOUR perspective of who you THINK i am, and what I am doing here...which completely ignore the topic.

the one thing I don't come here for is to be analyzed...or stuffed in a box, there are plenty of mirrors in the TZ and I have 20/20 vision...If I see any flaws, I will make my own corrections thank you very much...since I am not looking for flaws, and just checking out my smiling reflection...don't count on that happening anytime too soon.

the real challenge here, is accepting people for what they ARE with a smile...and realizing that they are NOT like you, nor do they want to be...and there is no way you can be like them...because we are all unique...get with the program ... and take off your mask and reveal the REAL YOU...I promise not to scream.

as I have said a billion times now...if we stuck to the topic...we wouldn't be distracted from the discussion, by rude interruptions of DRAMA. I am picking slimy green boogers out of my nose right now...how does that make you feel, when you are trying to "convert" me ?


LIGHTEN UP and try....try....try to enjoy yourself.
I know misery loves company, but it ain't me, babe.

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*OMG*...std...thass so funny...*Thank You*...eye did not know that reference...
personally, i type StD because you seem to "bang" a lot...hehehe...y'know...like, tough as nails...poundpoundpound...may be like a guiser wood...StuD
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Ha Ha...laughing feels good...I will take StD as a compliment from here on...I kinda like being seen as a stud and hey, we are building a sky scraper eh?

**Smooooozh** and hugs my oh so serious sister.
(girls jes wanna have fun)

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lol...serious an' ornery... :D

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