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seed · **Joined:** Mon Apr 24, 2006 4:48 pm **Posts:** 2509

"All human life is embedded with a Wholeness Navigator. It is the core wisdom. It draws the human instrument to perceive fragmentary existence as a passageway into wholeness and unity. The Wholeness Navigator pursues wholeness above all else, yet it is often blown off course by the energies of structure, polarity, linear time, and separatist cultures that dominate terra-earth." (Glossary)

The core wisdom....the heart of the entity consciousness.....The seed vision of the WN is the hologram of FS. 'The undivided whole' is waiting inside to be realized/understood. The potential for conscious realization exists now. " "There is no space more sacred or powerful than another * There is no being more spiritual than another * There is no thing more divine than another * There is no tool or technique that accelerates the unfoldment of consciousness". ...FS equality is our true condition now....it's always our true condition...in our forgetfulness we have de-evolved in our understanding of our identity and purpose. The future vision/message is brought to us through time by our future selves to wake us up to who we are now......Awake we understand what to do....and what our purpose is in being here now.

"The five senses of the human body feed only a small part of an individual's wholeness. Yet the human instrument clings to these five senses as though they were the only pathways of experience. (Glossary)"

"Bohm states that our brains are smaller pieces of the larger hologram. That our brains contain the whole knowledge of the universe. So, you can see how each mind has a limited perspective of the universal hologram. Our brains are our windows of perception. Each mind always contains the whole picture, but with a limited and unclear perspective. We each have different experience in our lives, but each perspective is valid. Our brains mathematically construct objective reality by interpreting frequencies that are ultimately projections form another dimension, a deeper order of existence that is beyond both space and time. The brain is a hologram enfolded in a holographic universe.

We can view ourselves as physical bodies moving through space. Or we can view ourselves as a blur of interference patterns enfolded throughout the cosmic hologram. This could be also expressed with the analogy that the brain is like the laser beam that shines through the holographic film to interpret the patterns. As it turns out, you can preserve the interference patterns of more than one hologram on the same film by using various different angles of projection of the laser beams. Therefore, depending on the direction and frequency of the beam that you send through the film, a different hologram will appear.

So, if applied to the brain, consciousness literally becomes the co-creator of the reality portrayed depending upon its angle of perception. This does not mean that if I am looking at a tree, it is not really there. The tree is there on multidimensional levels, which means that I am seeing a cross-section of the tree depending on the level of consciousness that I am tuned into. If the brain is a decoder of sorts, then it can be tuned to different states or frequencies of consciousness, and I will see different levels of tree reality depending upon which one I'm on.

Therefore, mind contributes to the phenomenon of reality itself, not just to the knowledge of it. In a brain that operates holographically, the remembered image of a thing can have as much impact on the senses as the thing itself. Bohm uses his idea of the implicate order, the deeper and non-local level of existence from which our entire universe springs, to echo this sentiment: Every action starts from an intention in the implicate order. The imagination is already the creation of the form; it already has the intention and the germs of all the movements needed to carry it out. And it affects the body and so on, so that as creation takes place in that way, from the subtler levels of the implicate order, it goes through them until it manifests in the explicate. In other words, in the implicate order, as in the brain itself, imagination and reality are ultimately indistinguishable, and it should therefore come as no surprise to us that images in the mind can ultimately manifest as realities in the physical body.

So it appears that through the use of images, the brain can tell the body what to do, including telling to make more images. Such is the nature of the mind/body relationship in a holographic universe. According to the holographic model, the mind/body ultimately cannot distinguish the difference between the neural holograms the brain uses to experience reality and the ones it conjures up while imagining reality. This effect is so powerful that each of us possesses the ability, at least at some level, to influence our health and control our physical form."

(Holographic Universe) http://www.essays.cc/free_essays/e4/dkt106.shtml

The WN is the backdoor into the liberation path.....

"Wholeness Navigator – This is the element of HMS that activates the individual’s authentic search for God in the context of wholeness, oneness, unity, and equality. Some people undertake this search because they feel an obligation to do this as a means to appease the expectations of their parents, spouse, or their own sense of guilt. The authentic search, as decreed by the Wholeness Navigator, is a recent bypass that has been brought into the human instrument through GMS, which is an open system. While it is still an artifact of the HMS, it is a backdoor into the liberation path." (James-Interview- PC)

"The preceptors of the Wholeness Navigator consist primarily of the secret root. This is the subtle carrier of information that leads you to see the One That Is All and the All That Is One. This is a facet of First Source that is made manifest in the human instrument as a means of attracting the human instrument to the life of the Sovereign Integral consciousness. Let the secret root and the Wholeness Navigator guide you, and let the five senses be expressionary tools of the entity, rather than collectors of separatist thought for the human instrument.

How do you access the secret root? Its portal of observation can be broadly defined as the integral awareness. This is allowing yourself to be aware of how you are integrated to life outside of your physical body. It is the feeling and perception that you are a holographic entity that is woven throughout all things and time, and when you touch into this feeling, you recall a frequency of your consciousness that is the Wholeness Navigator -- the mysterious Allness that is nurtured by the secret root.

This is not a state of being that the human instrument will attain. Rather, it is a feeling of oneness and wholeness that the human instrument can glimpse momentarily and, as a result, transform its understanding of its purpose. The Wholeness Navigator pulls the human instrument into alignment with the entity consciousness where it can view its role as an extension of the entity consciousness into terra-earth, and the entity consciousness as an extension of the human instrument into Source Reality."

(Glossary)

seed · **Joined:** Mon Apr 24, 2006 4:48 pm **Posts:** 2509

The mind is holographic..... the energetic heart is also holographic.

HEART REALITY
"Your energetic heart is multi-leveled and holographic, meaning that it encompasses the dimensions of life that range from the mundane, dense, three-dimensional environment to the mystical and supernal dimensions of First Source. At its core energetic frequency it is coupled to the grid of love that interpenetrates all dimensions and all life. At the point of this coupling, the heart beats within the soul, similar to how its rhythms pulse through the body electromagnetically. The heart of the human soul is in accord with the heart of First Source. Remember, we are created in the image of our Maker. Within this Heart of hearts is the transmission upon which we all live and have our being. It is from here that we have been diverted—our attentions split into a thousand directions, forgetting—no, underestimating our heart’s intelligence and the ease in which we can apply its special powers." (Energetic Heart)

Shayalana · **Posted:** Mon Feb 08, 2010 10:34 pm

Yep starduster you are right I quite enjoy your playful humor. :lol:

And seed thanx for the article from Bohm it is very timely right now and the reminder of the Energetic Hearts capabilities. Awesome to behold.

markzorb · **Joined:** Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:54 pm **Posts:** 985

Tis not about me...tis not about you...tis about all of us in relationship to First Source within our Human expression as it finds itself in another no matter how diverse the other may be is where Iam at today getting ready for another major snowstorm that is coming later....having just dug out 2 feet the thought of another 12 to 18 inches on its way....is somewhat occupying my Human mind more then i want....Vancouver needs and wants it....let some be redirected there....a lot of 3d activities needed to be done in preparation...and beyond this brief update...must get on my way doing these preparations.....but before doing so...just wish to send to First Source thoughts of the Heart Virtues to be distributed to everyone here as IT seems fit.....to all have a great day ....I just desire to be at One with not only myself but with all other parts of the Whole that make up the One.......and am going to do my best to do this.... taking back any power given away in the past to any person ,place ,situation or thing and own it for myself......who yes at times has played the role of the groveling victim but is doing his best to no longer do so.....and in that respect is asking for if further necessary the 'heat' to be turned up.....as I want to be 100 % real and from the Heart.....whatever is not real I want burned away.

Karen · **Joined:** Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:34 pm **Posts:** 254

Thank you Seed for your post....I think I will have to pick up this book to read. Wrapping our awareness around the concept of the hologram is challenging but important and so fascinating

. It is what IS.

Enjoyed your heartfelt expression Markzorb....I am here with you on this - ".....as I want to be 100 % real and from the Heart.....whatever is not real I want burned away." Good luck with the snow....

starduster · **Posted:** Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:01 pm

your posts set me to wondering seed, if the holograms that the materials define as our "heart and minds" are not what was etched on the "glass" that FS fragmented and placed within each of us ... that reveal the "imprint" of the original... and that we all are replication of that one hologram?

now that we better understand that the Heart and Mind are an integrated system ... maybe we can understand that depending on the angle we view it at (perspective) they will appear completely separate, and explain how we got so confused and thought they were two different things ... again we are talking about the quantum/energetic mind and heart and not the "genetic" ones and perhaps that require the vision of the "third eye" :wink:

seed · **Joined:** Mon Apr 24, 2006 4:48 pm **Posts:** 2509

Hi.
The book, The Holographic Universe is by Michael Talbot. The physicist David Bohm's theories on 'undivided wholeness' are highlighted in it.

The essay i quoted from was from this site. :arrow:

http://www.essays.cc/free_essays/e4/dkt106.shtml

SD, Hummmmm..... angle/view/perspective of consciousness=reality... :idea:

seed · **Joined:** Mon Apr 24, 2006 4:48 pm **Posts:** 2509

"If we go into Nature and inquire into her processes we observe more than one glimmer of light. The truth is that life is not material and that the lifestream is not a substance. Life is a force—electrical, magnetic, a quality, not a quantity."
- Luther Burbank (EVT-3)

"The authentic search, as decreed by the Wholeness Navigator, is a recent bypass that has been brought into the human instrument through GMS, which is an open system. While it is still an artifact of the HMS, it is a backdoor into the liberation path." (James-Interview- PC)

James's statement above about how we can use the open GMS is an interesting comment to me..... perhaps we could explore this statement above together?

seed · **Joined:** Mon Apr 24, 2006 4:48 pm **Posts:** 2509

Oh...

I just realized that GMS doesn't mean Genetic Mind System.......it means Genetic Manipulation System (GMS)

– "This system was an outgrowth of various interdimensional races working to create a suitable instrument for accessing the physical world. It was Anu who specifically wanted to not only access the physical world in order to exploit its resources, but to do so by suppressing the infinite beings that would power the human instruments so he had the equivalent of willing slaves. Yes, infinite beings can be suppressed into finite beings when they are subjected to HMS.

In the course of engineering the human instrument, it was decided to create GMS as a means to modify the human instrument over time, as it evolved, to ensure it would never achieve self- realization or the Sovereign Integral state of awareness. The state of satori, nirvana, cosmic consciousness, enlightenment, and rapture were all different names for heightened states within the GSSC, which was still within the HMS domain, but these became checkpoints that triggered GMS interventions. The true state of the Sovereign Integral – even after death of the human instrument – was never realized by a member of the human family until very recently."
(James-Interview-PC)

christinedream7 · **Posted:** Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:15 pm

LD-4

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If you direct the universe to bring you the experience of the Wholeness Navigator, it will bring you this experience, but you will not have consciousness recollection because, as I’ve said before, the signature vibration of the Wholeness Navigator is not perceptible to the human senses or mind. There is no method to capture the experience – the mind is like a camera, but the senses – the film – are not present.

It's interesting at times when I at random pick something to read in WMM, and find discussions about it in the forum-it blows my mind sometimes--or am I/We making this our reality UMMMMMMMM

The liberation path...very enticing... however, this quote makes it seem as though the person will not be conscious of the WN experience. But I suppose it's a subconscious experience that connects to the conscious--the back door liberation path. Using words to describe such a multi layered process is difficult to grasp--if only there was an image, a picture that dipicted the grand scheme in elementary form, easy to understand--ya know consciousness for dummies painting. Mind is like a camera, but the senses, film are not present. OK that image depicts an elementary vision of the complex...OK lets keep this going, a full image depicting it all--the complex is a larger wheel of the simple smaller wheel...a diagram can be done. James gives us images for the sub conscious, how bout one for the weeeeeee brain, the conscious

Anybody got it out there, and is an artist... :mrgreen:

starduster · **Posted:** Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:39 pm

the "image" is your life ... you may not be able to see the WN, (which would only be a distraction and something else to worship) but you can see where it has led you...what experiences sojourning with it have brought you, what knowledge you have gained by those experiences and you may even discern where it is taking you

It may have come in through the back door undetected, but I doubt if we will ever be- not aware of its influence again :wink:

Shayalana · **Posted:** Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:41 pm

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Lyricus 4 Discourse
If you direct the universe to bring you the experience of the Wholeness Navigator, it will bring you this experience, but you will not have consciousness recollection because, as I’ve said before, the signature vibration of the Wholeness Navigator is not perceptible to the human senses or mind. There is no method to capture the experience – the mind is like a camera, but the senses – the film – are not present.

Interesting , I wonder if he was referring only to the 5 outer senses we use or also the inner senses too for those who are in touch with them. Or, maybe its not with the lower mind it can be seen because the mind(HMS) as we know it is somewhat limited. The Energetic Heart is way more expansive , perhaps, it has a way of detecting the WN acting seamlessly with the higher mind. :wink:

seed · **Joined:** Mon Apr 24, 2006 4:48 pm **Posts:** 2509

The search for God is inspired from a feeling of disconnection from God....exactly the experience the HMS was designed to create, and continue to create....Now because of this "recent bypass" this search even though it is birthed from the illusion of separation established inside the HMS....if one is persistent and sincere and the search stems from an authentic desire to feel oneness, wholeness, unity, and equality with all life.....the Wholeness Navigator will respond to this genuine approach, and begin to lead the individual entity into a recollection of its wholeness....This unfolding alignment with life is the feeling we experience as the WN begins to lead us into remembering our true identity and purpose.

So... the WN may not be experienced directly by the 5 senses of the HI but the effects of its direction are felt as an expanding feeling of well being... no matter what our worldly circumstances are.

The preceptors of the WN consist primarily of the "secret root" this is the carrier of information that allows us to become aware of how we are connected to all life.....this unfolding awareness of wholeness is touching into the consciousness of the SI.

Perhaps the 6th and 7th senses begin to be experienced as the wholeness of the entity is starting to be remembered.

starduster · **Posted:** Wed Feb 10, 2010 3:35 am

I have thought long and hard about it, and aside from the failed experience of trying to "please" everyone ... which is how I see reaching outward for oneness with all of life ... I believe that our origins and destiny lie deep within the individual's core. And that is what we have most in common and what we have the opportunity to express that will serve the entire species the most.

so instead of reaching out, I will be reaching IN, to clear all the blockages, to heal all the wounds, to release the ties that bind me and to broaden my perspective by being centered.

The Wholeness Navigator, seeks wholeness above all ... we each have one, it is the Heart of Entity Consciousness, it is the fragment of God that satisfies our need to search for IT externally ... it is IN you waiting for the opportunity to express itself as Sovereign.

when that happens... everything comes to you because you are living in Source reality that encompasses All that IS... and it flows freely through you creating an attractive energy.

nothing prevents anyone from creating this ultimate Oneness, now, in THIS quantum moment ... without infringing on others for their support. Let go of the externals that pull you apart and make yourself whole/ONE with FS ... that's the best that you can do... without depending on someone to else to tell you how you should live the life that was given to you to experience in full consciousness.

"dwell in God (not the HMS)... and all things will be added..."
Hakomi CH 5

markzorb · **Joined:** Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:54 pm **Posts:** 985

Like a child learning to walk on 2 legs we stumble and fall until we achieve the balance needed to before you know it run...until there is no tomorrow for is there not....only the NOW present as here on the eastern coast of America Gaia takes center stage ...a mighty storm raging....am going with the flow and choosing to live today in unconditional Love.....as just beyond the snow and the wind is calm and the warmth of the Central Sun...which is helping me to feel real good inside..

...Love to All .

seed · **Joined:** Mon Apr 24, 2006 4:48 pm **Posts:** 2509

Yes of course....but it is not just about you or me. Maybe some of us have actually realized that 'searching' is an activity of the HMS because it is initiated from a belief/experience of /separation inequality.....This perception of our innate wholeness and equality is important to understand if we are to deconstruct the prison for ourselves and support that same emancipation in others....We are deconstructing the prison for the benefit of us all.....As one SI rises, or exits the prison...(the consciousness of separation)...or un-limits itself..... the effect on the the whole species is substantial....this is why (i assume) James speaks in terms of viral positive.....because the vibration/consciousness of expression is contagious so to speak......we are entrained to harmonize with the tones of the HV's, for instance.....which is unconditional love.. and then emanate that particular frequency into the world. (FS expansion).....We emanate the tone of unconditional love not for ourselves but for all of us....this is not being nice it is being FS.

And yes......realization/transformation can only be experienced by the individual entity making the conscious choice to align with the direction of the WN....that is where it begins....with a choice.

I was interested at looking together at what the "authentic search for God" is....why it is considered the back door. "Pleasing others" is not an authentic approach, and will not be effective.

The point is as i see it, that the approach is made out of an ignorance of one's true condition, but if that approach is authentic......not based in pleasing others...or from guilt...or from a desire for personal power....then the WN responds.....and comes to meet the individual entity and begins to lead it out of the prison of separation.

Thanks.....You.

Karen · **Joined:** Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:34 pm **Posts:** 254

More to add....this may be expressing some of what you all have already expressed. I do not mean for it to sound ‘preachy’....it is simply what I feel within me....

I believe that everything is within....but as we go within and are ‘led’ by the WN, we learn what is real and that we are operating within an ‘illusion’ and that there are many of ‘Ourselves’ out ‘there’ also operating within this ‘illusion’.... the same in the most important way. As I go within and feel Source, I get in touch with a love for mySelf which can only be the same love for Humanity as ‘explorers’ that I did not ‘know’ prior when I believed that the outside ‘illusion’ of separation was reality. It changes the way that I look on people, the amount of compassion I feel, the way I treat everyone. I am more clear now when I get caught up in the ‘illusion’ of our differences and get out more quickly. I enjoy the diversity, the unique expressions, the different ‘colors’....love every illusion of ‘other’ for this, for the unique ‘perspective(s)’ they are bringing to US as Sovereign Entities. It is never threatening, unless it is physical harm, and does not need to be irritating. Most are caught in the ‘drama’....this does not hurt me in any way, even if they want to define me inaccurately. This is the truth as I see it but I will admit that I have moments of forgetfulness of this. I can be quite sensitive to 'energies' from others. I am 'caught' when I become defensive. We all have our own experiments going but how very liberating to know that we are experimenting/exploring. As I feel love for life I have the urge within to envelop with Love....not control or manipulate but appreciate, honor, try to assist when inspired. To me, this is feeling Oneness, Source, and emanating and expressing from this place. “We’re all in this together” are not just words but inspired from a deep awareness and feeling of unconditional Love that emanates from Source which is WHO WE ARE.

Perhaps....the ‘back door’ is within not without, feeling our way not thinking, and by feeling I do not mean emotions but using senses we have beyond the 5. The quantum pause to me is a ‘doorway’. Required is a letting go of current beliefs about this illusive reality, emptying of memory and mental constructs of future expectation (mind stuff)....opening in silence and stillness to something ‘new’ in the present moment....surrendering, trusting that we will be led (from within) to the realization of WHO WE ARE. There is innocence in this in that we are free, clear, empty, and KNOW we will be shown. It is a love bond with All That IS.

markzorb · **Joined:** Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:54 pm **Posts:** 985

Beautifully expressed Karen.....was a pleasure to read....I live where you live is real....makes me feel great to be alive and be able to feel the resonance shared by all of us.

Shayalana · **Posted:** Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:40 pm

seed wrote:

Yes of course....but it is not just about you or me. Maybe some of us have actually realized that 'searching' is an activity of the HMS because it is initiated from a belief/experience of /separation equality.....This perception of our innate wholeness and equality is important to understand if we are to deconstruct the prison for ourselves and support that same emancipation in others....We are deconstructing the prison for the benefit of us all.....As one SI rises, or exits the prison...(the consciousness of separation)...or un-limits itself..... the effect on the the whole species is substantial....this is why (i assume) James speaks in terms of viral positive.....because the vibration/consciousness of expression is contagious so to speak......we are entrained to harmonize with the tones of the HV's, for instance.....which is unconditional love.. and then emanate that particular frequency into the world. (FS expansion).....We emanate the tone of unconditional love not for ourselves but for all of us....this is not being nice it is being FS.

And yes......realization/transformation can only be experienced by the individual entity making the conscious choice to align with the direction of the WN....that is where it begins....with a choice.

I was interested at looking together at what the "authentic search for God" is....why it is considered the back door. "Pleasing others" is not an authentic approach, and will not be effective.

The point is as i see it, that the approach is made out of an ignorance of one's true condition, but if that approach is authentic......not based in pleasing others...or from guilt...or from a desire for personal power....then the WN responds.....and comes to meet the individual entity and begins to lead it out of the prison of separation.

Thanks.....You.

And thanx YOU for such a brilliant and heartfelt offering here. :wink:

Shayalana · **Posted:** Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:44 pm

starduster wrote:

I have thought long and hard about it, and aside from the failed experience of trying to "please" everyone ... which is how I see reaching outward for oneness with all of life ... I believe that our origins and destiny lie deep within the individual's core. And that is what we have most in common and what we have the opportunity to express that will serve the entire species the most.

so instead of reaching out, I will be reaching IN, to clear all the blockages, to heal all the wounds, to release the ties that bind me and to broaden my perspective by being centered.

The Wholeness Navigator, seeks wholeness above all ... we each have one, it is the Heart of Entity Consciousness, it is the fragment of God that satisfies our need to search for IT externally ... it is IN you waiting for the opportunity to express itself as Sovereign.

when that happens... everything comes to you because you are living in Source reality that encompasses All that IS... and it flows freely through you creating an attractive energy.

nothing prevents anyone from creating this ultimate Oneness, now, in THIS quantum moment ... without infringing on others for their support. Let go of the externals that pull you apart and make yourself whole/ONE with FS ... that's the best that you can do... without depending on someone to else to tell you how you should live the life that was given to you to experience in full consciousness.

"dwell in God (not the HMS)... and all things will be added..."
Hakomi CH 5

And thank you too. I can see and especially feel some awesome wonderfulness that occurs within you. Thank you for sharing this beauty now sister. :wink:

Karen · **Joined:** Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:34 pm **Posts:** 254

"....near-infinite voices leap from the same Heart...."

Evt. 3 "I live where you live" poem

Appreciating everyone here for their unique expressions and heartfelt intentions....

Shayalana · **Posted:** Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:46 am

Quote:

And how are the Sovereigns present? In every breath that brings life to the human
instrument. It is the breath in which the Sovereign’s presence dwells. There is a saying
within Lyricus that If you’re not in your breath, you’re in your mind. It’s well understood
that this is an abstract concept to the Human Mind System, but the Sovereigns live in the
intersection of life and Nature, which is the breath.
The WingMakers are not the guides, angels, ascended masters, or gods that exist within
the dimensions of the Human Mind System. They live within the interdimensional fields
of the higher mind, and like wise elders to the human family they provide the paradigms
of the Sovereign Integral and Grand Portal. They focus exclusively on these two
paradigms because from these come the First Point that enables the individual to dissolve
the programs that conceal the one, the equal, and the truthful from itself.
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The WingMakers coined the term Sovereign Integral to encode the meaning that what
exists within the pathways of one’s breath is more than a physical body composed of a
circuitry of feelings and thoughts. The greatest of the spiritual explorers realized this and
have understood that the human soul would be redefined in every era, and while it would
appear to change, it always remains the constant awareness of both the infinite and the
finite, and the real and the unreal.
One can read this interview and walk away feeling that an existential aura has been
placed around them. That their concepts of God, Spirit, Soul, and everything affiliated,
which they have been taught or elected to believe, has been challenged. Even those who
have followed the WingMakers materials with dedication will find that I have changed
the footing of those materials somewhat in this disclosure.
If you have ever ventured to an exotic destination, one that is culturally unlike your own,
you’re well aware that when you are in the airplane, flying over your destination, you
really have not experienced the culture yet, no matter how much you have studied it in
advance. When you arrive at your hotel, you remain outside of the culture, though you
can see the differences in the plants and animals, the architecture and buildings, and the
people on the streets, but still, you remain outside of the culture as an observer, and not a
participant.
Only when you learn the language of the people, when you meet the people in their own
dwellings – homes, shops, cafes, sports arenas, schools, churches – do you really begin to
understand the culture. This is analogous to the bridgework between the GSSC and the
Sovereign Integral. There is nothing more exotic or out of the ordinary than the language
and dwellings of the Sovereign Integral, and the deeper you travel into this land, the
stranger it will seem.
If I disclosed all of what is there in 1998, or even today, ten years later, the bridge would
only carry a handful of people. It would seem a rickety and dangerous bridge to cross
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over, and many who would be curious or tempted would be talked out of crossing
because it was just too strange. And so the bridge was constructed to meet certain people
where they lived and how they believed. Those who resonated with the key terms and
definitions, or an element of poetry, or music, or art, they found a texture, or structure
that gave them a sense of connection, a sense of curiosity, and it was enough to bring
them onto the bridge.
To use my previous metaphor, they are now landing at the “airport.” They are seeing the
exotic land of the Sovereign Integral from their airplane seat, looking out of a small, glass
window into a vast, new world. Remember, the First Point, as you step from the plane, is
your breath, your heart and the virtues of its wisdom, as this is not a destination where the
language is anything more than breath and virtuous self-expression. It is this simple.
I realize there will be those who will read this interview and a hundred more questions
will flutter about them, perhaps only two or three will really matter in the moment, but
the desire for more information and knowledge is a powerful addiction of the HMS. I
would advise that you turn your attention from the acquisition of information and
knowledge, and apportion it to the application of the heart virtues to yourself and all
others within your local multiverse, and then simply listen to your breath, and each time
you turn your attention to your breath, lean a little closer to the Being inside you, in the
centermost point of your existence. Feel this bond strengthening and have the conviction
that any walls that have been placed between you, or will be placed between you, will be
torn down.
If your focus is there, you will find access to everything, including the language of the
Sovereign Integral and how to reawaken its culture within you, and live among its
dwelling places.
It is the era of transparency and expansion.

The Camelot Interview

Shayalana · **Posted:** Fri Feb 12, 2010 11:57 am

Quote:

Only when you learn the language of the people, when you meet the people in their own
dwellings – homes, shops, cafes, sports arenas, schools, churches – do you really begin to
understand the culture. This is analogous to the bridgework between the GSSC and the
Sovereign Integral. There is nothing more exotic or out of the ordinary than the language
and dwellings of the Sovereign Integral, and the deeper you travel into this land, the
stranger it will seem.

This is for those who come to this forum with preconceived ideas (HMS) about how people should be on this forum without bothering to check out (Patience Pays), what is really going on before jumping into your judgments. There are some here who over the years have been getting deeper into the materials no matter what has come up between them and others so to speak , they got over it and through it and all learned becuase we know these materials have a kindling effect for those who engage them , Its called Energetic transfers.It doesn t happen if you don t check out the materials and become entangled in personalities instead . No emotional sentiment works here. As in the beginning of the materials, this is not for the faint of heart it is for discovering what real heart is and most don t find that easy at all not for all they have to purge themselves of.

markzorb · **Joined:** Mon Sep 04, 2006 6:54 pm **Posts:** 985

Just practice in deeds and in action what you preach and everything WINGMAKERWILL work out just fine......not for the faint of heart means one does not quit no matter what....am confident....that First Source has a plan for all who persevere....embracing the Heart Virtues a joyous task that is more then enough Work to fill your day with a happiness that no one can take from you.

starduster · **Posted:** Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:44 pm

again, James is suggesting in that quote seed posted, that we "learn the language" - breath and virtuous self-expression - applied to your Self.

Only when you learn the language ... – do you really begin to understand the culture. ... There is nothing more exotic or out of the ordinary than the language and dwellings of the Sovereign Integral, and the deeper you travel into this land, the stranger it will seem.

Those who resonated with the key terms and definitions, or an element of poetry, or music, or art, they found a texture, or structure that gave them a sense of connection, a sense of curiosity, and it was enough to bring them onto the bridge.

Remember, the First Point, as you step from the plane, is your breath, your heart and the virtues of its wisdom, as this is not a destination where the language is anything more than breath and virtuous self-expression. It is this simple.

I would advise that you turn your attention from the acquisition of information and knowledge, and apportion it to the application of the heart virtues to yourself and all others within your local multiverse, and then simply listen to your breath, and each time you turn your attention to your breath, lean a little closer to the Being inside you, in the centermost point of your existence. Feel this bond strengthening and have the conviction that any walls that have been placed between you, or will be placed between you, will be torn down.

If your focus is there, you will find access to everything, including the language of the Sovereign Integral and how to reawaken its culture within you, and live among its dwelling places.

I firmly believe, the "language" of the SI is the frequency of Love as it flows through you, which makes it unique, and that it resonates and haromonizes with the tone of equality - at your core (centermost Point)... and that you release with every conscious breath.

THE HUMAN MIND SYSTEM

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