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The Gathering Of The Selves
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Author:  The Watcher [ Mon Jul 18, 2011 11:21 pm ]
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On synergy and synchronicity:

I was 'inspired' to create this topic shortly before the Spirit State website was formally made public. That in itself I found heartily encouraging an in sync.
After listening to Mark's you-tube intro and visualization regarding the new platform, and since I was already starting to draft some ideas with the thought that I might try my hand at writing a book, I have been further encouraged by such confirmation of 'unfolding events' and realization about the Lyricus Information, and how it is presented.

'Things' falling into place, as I expressed on page 4 of this thread:

There seemed to be a teeny bit of opposition to my claims that imagination was likely the one thing which at the fundamental was exactly what gave breathe to our ability to create and to co-create and it was this exact 'thing' which was being 'farmed' from humanity in order to give substance to the HMSystem and also it was the very thing which would assist us with dismantling that same system.
(I even went as far as to state that this was what the 'rulers' of the HMSystem were most afraid of us all discovering... and why we are educated within that system to think so very little of 'the imagination'.)

So 'imagine' how I personally feel when I read Helen's post about the 'Afterword' in the Dohrman Prophecy.

"Each of you was born with imagination. It is this imagination within you that can reach out and fathom what this force is. It can sense its presence, even though it remains invisible. This is enough. This will fulfill you. It is not a prize to be won. It is not a goal to achieve. It is enough to imagine this unifying force of all within all and to live your life as if you were part of this force. For that is exactly what you are." James

It is important that we share these 'moments' - connect the dots. Blessing one and all.

{Edit - and then I read this: :)

Author:  Ananake [ Tue Jul 19, 2011 10:12 am ]
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I was reading the interview with Christopher Lock posted on the Japanese Wingmakers web site. ( ... view03.htm)

Dr. Lock had some things to say about imagination which I thought might be of interest and possibly provide some nuances of meaning here:

Dr. Lock wrote:
"Creative will" is a phrase that I seem to instinctively understand, like many just "understand" the word "WingMakers" means something for them when they first read or hear it. Rather than really thinking about it there tends to be just a natural flow into it. It is much easier for me to feel what "creative will" means than to articulate it, perhaps because my intuition is strong and because of my love for the creative arts. Your question, however, is a very good and important one and so I shall endeavor to articulate as best I can.

The "will" part is easy enough to understand. We must will ourselves to commune. There must be a level of commitment. How or when this occurs, however, will vary from individual to individual. One way I have done this is to surrender myself in goodness to spirit and Source at night in bed before going to sleep. This is done consciously and in full clarity of mind. It does not, for me, necessarily require sitting cross-legged or going into the imagination (which I also have in abundance) because the imagination may go anywhere and fantasize on anything, and if you wish to commune with the GM, ATI or Source I find grounding in reality far more helpful. Otherwise it becomes impossible to distinguish between imagination, fantasy and future vision.

Many people think they need to go really into the imagination to reach the levels of intuition, but I have found it just is not so. The mind needs stilling and that means not going into the imagination. The imagination can be a very valuable tool to used later when analyzing and reflecting upon that which has been seen or witnessed in order to view and study it from every possible angle and meaning.

I'd better now back up and go to the word "creative" in "creative will." Creative doesn't just mean imaginative, as for instance, in the artistic sense of being creative, though there can be overlaps. Source is the ultimate Creator or Creative element within the multiverse. Another word for "Source" that some use is "Creation". While Source is essentially organic in expression it works (if we can say that) in accordance with universal laws; it is not a free-for-all rudderless drift of imagination. This is why at night before sleeping and whenever I can throughout the day I give my attention to Source -- the ultimate Creativity.

Author:  Russell [ Wed Jul 20, 2011 2:33 pm ]
Post subject:  The Gathering Of The Selves/The WingMakers

The gathering of the Selves, (was/is/will be) another way to express the realm of the WingMakers.

I'm always amused by the names that individuals (myself included) choose when descending into MEST.

Doc Lock (aka C.Lock) is a good one ;)

Many choose to be an actor.

Some choose to be a director.

Fewer choose to be both.

The WingMakers are Sovereign Integrals.

They choose to be First Source and sovereign Selves......residing in Source Reality (the 6th dimension) the midpoint (void) of all 11 dimensions.

The (perfect) centre of an ever expanding circle.

The residence of immortality.

Both physical and spiritual.

The synthesis.

The best of all worlds.

Author:  The Watcher [ Wed Aug 03, 2011 12:29 am ]
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Author:  The Watcher [ Fri Aug 05, 2011 1:12 am ]
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DP Page 387 - 'manipulated by their gods' -


The whole of that realm is created through Illusion, and the HMS has been instrumental in ‘farming’ the imaginative energies which soul carriers inherently have, to use the “God Particle” – the essence of First Source, for their own means – to keep the Illusion ‘real’ and to rule the secular kingdoms of the gods/goddesses.

These gods are soulless – they are animus in that they exist ONLY because human beings believe in them.
These gods cannot create anything in this way. They can only trick the mind with slights of hand and rely on the individual to remain ignorant of what they each really are.
Posted: Sun Jun 19, 2011 11:10 am

Author:  Russell [ Fri Aug 05, 2011 4:34 pm ]
Post subject:  Fire walk with me

God is in my heart.

The heart is all-encompassing.

May all people get again to the simple reality of their heart.

May all people feel this reality as it is and live in that place.

May they know that place and forgive themselves for what they have done.

May they forgive all the time they were blinded.

May all beings be happy, may they see the truth of happiness itself.

May all people realize the essential spirit (essence) that is truly before them.



My god.

ITS full of stars.

Author:  The Watcher [ Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:12 pm ]
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As far as prayers go, the nature of prayer is an underlying hopefulness.
'May they'
Do you think 'they' will?
This prayer suggests there may be some doubt.
prayer is an antidote to knowing.
Knowing, is the end of the need to pray.
Or 'prey'
The gathering of the selves is real and happening. It once might have been part of hopeful prayers, but now the prayers are answered.

Author:  hidelight [ Fri Aug 05, 2011 7:31 pm ]
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Now I weep when children sing
and burrow their warm presence into my heart.
Now I feel God adjourned by the
source of shadows.
Now I feel the pull of a bridle,
breaking me like a wild horse turned
suddenly submissive.

I cannot fight the phantoms
or control them or turn them away.
They prod at me as if a lava stream should
continue on into the cold night air
and never tire of movement.
Never cease its search for the perfect place to be a sculpture.
An anonymous feature of the gray landscape.

-Chamber 22

Author:  The Watcher [ Sun Sep 25, 2011 5:23 pm ]
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In many ways within this physical construct we are programmes within a programme and the awakening aspect is to realise the truth of this and understand that the sense of free will within the realm of the individual is an illusion created by programmes for the purpose of exploring the very concept from a segregated position, to especially learn from the experience.

Free Will, understood in a particular way eventually shows the seeker that illusion – and that the only valid choice is to align that will with the will of First Source – that is the true act of freedom – of free will.

It enables the individual to be fully an individual and yet aligned with all other individuals awakening to this reality and gives LIFE to the programme.

This can only be achieved with the clear understanding of what free will is and subsequent application of that free will.
Essentially this ‘saves’ the individual programme.

The programme is the ego personality which has allowed the information to propel it to a co-creative partnership with its Quantum Self…something it has no immediate recollection or evidence of – such is that the recollection and evidence comes only through the process of connection.

This implies ‘faith’ – indeed, faith is the key element of the beginning stages of alignment for the ego personality because up to that point the ego personality has been immersed within the programmes of duality and is schooled only in things measurable and where ‘faith’ is part of the schooling for many individuals, this faith is focused upon concepts of God(s)/Goddess(es) and these concepts are rigidly upheld as being outside the individuals own directives and having faith in these is to have faith in human invention – an invention which is designed to direct the individuals whole life energy and experience into keeping the overall programme unchanged.

However, when the individual (ego personality) initially engages with faith, this does open a portal into potential connection with the immeasurable, invisible reality – and while it is most often directed into serving religion and culture (and politics and science) it is no longer a rarity that the individual soon rejects the trappings of those structures and God concepts and seeks to engage in direct communion with the Quantum Self.

I see the Quantum Self as being a programmer which invested an aspect of itself into the ‘game’ of life on Earth.

One part of the ‘game’ is for the Quantum Self to respond to the call from its physical programme (the individual/ego personality) make contact and give direction.
The Quantum Self is outside the confining structures of the physical programme, and in a position which has perfect potential to be of greatest assistance to that part of itself within the programme – you and me…individuals, ego personalities.

The idea of the ‘game’ is to see if the Quantum Self can be fully operational and a vibrant power within the 3D reality through the individual who uses their free will to activate this connection and who then allows the partnership to flourish and grow to that point where it is a perpetual event.

This is the thing which ‘saves’ the ego personality. It is a new creation which has experienced being cut off from the knowledge of a reality from where it came – it has experienced the illusion of having a beginning and being individual and seeing things from a single perspective and all the desirable and undesirable experiences which are attached to this, within the visually eternal physical reality programme.

And having experienced these things, is propelled by its own choice to realise and reconnect with the aspect of itself it was completely ignorant about – the Quantum Self – the programmer.

Author:  The Watcher [ Sun Sep 25, 2011 6:01 pm ]
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Free Will + A Beginning = A programme which is invested with conscious awareness and sense of self. - a sense of Being Real, but absent of the knowledge of what this signifies.

What is still absent is the realization that one is not as real as one is designed to be - potentially.

The Realization is in recognition that one is a design and that the design has purpose.

The purpose can be realised in the understanding that in order to unlock the codes of the whole programme, one has to connect with the programmer which is an aspect of the programme we each are. We then cascade those unlocked programs into the programme we are experiencing [local/multi-verse]through our newly emerging understanding of Quantum Self - thus we become the programmer rather than remain the un activated ego personality programme.


Author:  Shayalana [ Mon Oct 10, 2011 12:53 pm ]
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WingMakers' Philosophy: Chamber One

Life Principles of the Sovereign Integral

The entity model of expression is designed to explore new fields of vibration through biological instruments and transform through this process of discovery to a new level of understanding and expression as a Sovereign Integral. The Sovereign Integral is the fullest expression of the entity model within the time-space universes, and most closely exemplifies Source Intelligence's capabilities therein. It is also the natural state of existence of the entity that has transformed beyond the evolution/saviorship model of existence and has removed itself from the controlling aspects of the Hierarchy through the complete activation of its embedded Source Codes. This is the level of capability that was "seeded" within the entity model of expression when it was initially conceived by First Source. All entities within the time-space universes are in various stages of the transformational experience and each are destined to achieve the Sovereign Integral level as their Source Codes become fully activated.

The transformational experience is the realization that the entity model of expression is capable of direct access to Source Intelligence information, and that the information of First Source is discovered within the entity level of the Sovereign Integral. In other words, the human instrument, complete with its biological, emotional, and mental capabilities, is not the repository of the entity's Source Codes. Nor is the human instrument able to reach out and gather in this liberating information -- this glorious freedom to access All That Is. It is the entity that is both the harbor of, and instrument of access to, the Source Coding activation that permits the transformational experience to manifest through the integration of the human instrument and the sovereign entity.

The transformational experience consists of the realization that perceived reality is Source Reality personified in the form of individual preferences. Thus, Source Reality and sovereign reality become inseparable as the wind and air. This confluence is realized only through the transformational experience, which is unlike anything known within the time-space universes.

There have been those upon terra-earth who have experienced a shallow breath of wind from this powerful tempest. Some have called it ascension; others have attributed names like illumination, vision, enlightenment, nirvana, and cosmic consciousness. While these experiences are profound in human standards, they are only the initial stirrings of the Sovereign Integral, as it becomes increasingly adept at touching and awakening the remote edges of its existence. What most species define as the ultimate bliss is merely the impression of the Sovereign Integral whispering to its outposts of form and nudging them to look within to their roots of existence and unite with this formless and limitless intelligence that pervades all.

The transformational experience is far beyond the calibration of the human drama much like the stars in the sky are beyond the touch of terra-earth. You can observe the stars with your human eyes, but you will never touch them with your human hands. Similarly, you can dimly foresee the transformational experience with the human instrument, but you cannot experience it through the human instrument. It is only accessed through the wholeness of the entity, for it is only in wholeness that the Source Codes and their residual effects of Source Reality perception can exist. And truly, this wholeness is only obtained when the individual consciousness is separated from time and is able to view its existence in timelessness.

Nevertheless, the human instrument is critical in facilitating the transformational experience and causing it to trigger -- like a metamorphosis -- the integration of the formful identities into the Sovereign Integral. This is the next stage of perception and expression for the entity model, and it is activated when the entity designs its reality from life principles that are symbolic of Source Reality, as opposed to the reality of an external source that is bound to the evolution/saviorship model of existence.

These life principles are Source Intelligence templates of creation. They are designed to create reality from the perspective of the Sovereign Integral and hasten its manifestation within the fields of vibration that has thus far repelled it. They are principles that construct opportunities for the integration of the entity's formless and formful identities. They are bridges that the human instrument -- with all of its componentry intact -- can experience the Sovereign Integral perception of wholeness.

As the human instrument becomes increasingly responsive to Source Intelligence it will gravitate to life principles that symbolically express the formative principles of prime creation. There are wide ranges of expressions that can induce the transformational experience of the Sovereign Integral and liberate the entity from time-space conditioning and external controls. Inasmuch as the expression can vary, the intent of the expression is quite narrowly defined as the intent to expand into a state of integration whereby the human instrument becomes increasingly aligned with the Sovereign Integral perspective.

There are three particular life principles that accelerate the transformational experience and help to align the human instrument with the Sovereign Integral perspective. They are:

1) Universe relationship through gratitude

2) Observance of Source in all things

3) Nurturance of life

When the individual applies these principles, their life experience reveals a deeper meaning to its apparently random events -- both in the universal and personal contexts.

Universe Relationship through Gratitude

This is the principle that the Universe of Wholeness represents a collective intelligence that can be personalized as a single Universal Entity. Thus, in this model of inference, there are only two entities in the entire cosmos: the individual entity and the Universal Entity. Inasmuch as the individual is impressionable and constantly changing to adapt to new information, so is the Universal Entity, which is a dynamic and living template of potential energies and experiences that are coherent and as knowable as a friend's personality and behavior.

The Universal Entity is responsive to the individual and its perceptions and expressions. It is like a composite omni-personality that is imbued with Source Intelligence and responds to the perceptions of the individual like a pool of water mirrors the image that overshadows it. Everyone in a human instrument is indeed, at their innermost core, a sovereign entity that can transform the human instrument into an instrument of the Sovereign Integral. However, this transformation is dependent on whether the individual chooses to project an image of a Sovereign Integral upon the "mirror" of the Universal Entity, or project a lesser image that is a distortion of its true state of being.

The principle of universe relationship through gratitude is primarily concerned with consciously designing one's self image through an appreciation of the Universal Entity's supportive "mirror". In other words, the Universal Entity is a partner in shaping reality's expression in one's life. Reality is an internal process of creation that is utterly free of external controls and conditions if the individual projects a sovereign image upon the mirror of the Universal Entity.

This process is an interchange of supportive energy from the individual to the Universal Entity, and this energy is best applied through an appreciation of how perfect and exacting the interchange occurs in every moment of life. If the individual is aware (or at least interested in having the awareness) of how perfect the Universal Entity supports the individual's sovereign reality, there is a powerful and natural sense of gratitude that flows from the individual to the Universal Entity. It is this wellspring of gratitude that opens the channel of support from the Universal Entity to the individual and establishes a collaboration of purpose to transform the human instrument into an expression of the Sovereign Integral.

It is principally gratitude -- which translates to an appreciation of how the inter-relationship of the individual and the Universal Entity operates -- that opens the human instrument to its connection to the sovereign entity and its eventual transformation into the Sovereign Integral state of perception and expression. The relationship of the individual with the Universal Entity is essential to cultivate and nurture, because it, more than anything else, determines how accepting the individual is to life's myriad forms and manifestations.

When the individual accepts changes in sovereign reality as the shifting persona of the Universal Entity, they live in greater harmony with life itself. Life becomes an exchange of energy between the individual and the Universal Entity that is allowed to play out without judgment and experienced without fear. This is the underlying meaning of unconditional love: to experience life in all its manifestations as a single, unified intelligence that responds perfectly to the projected image of the human instrument.

It is for this reason that when the human instrument projects gratitude to the Universal Entity, regardless of circumstance or condition, life becomes increasingly supportive in opening the human instrument to activate its Source Codes and live life within the framework of the synthesis model of expression. The feeling of gratitude coupled with the mental concept of appreciation is expressed like an invisible message in all directions and at all times. In this particular context, gratitude to the Universal Entity is the overarching motive behind all forms of expression that the human instrument aspires to.

Every breath, every word, every touch, every thought, every thing is centered on expressing this sense of gratitude. A gratitude that the individual is sovereign and supported by a Universal Entity that expresses itself through all forms and manifestations of intelligence with the sole objective of creating the ideal reality to activate the individual's Source Codes and transform the human instrument and entity in to the Sovereign Integral. It is this specific form of gratitude that accelerates the activation of the Source Codes and their peculiar ability to integrate the disparate componentry of the human instrument and the entity, and transform them to the state of perception and expression of the Sovereign Integral.

Time is the only factor that distorts this otherwise clear connection between the individual and Universal Entity. Time intervenes and creates pockets of despair, hopelessness, and abandonment. However, it is these very "pockets" that often activate the Source Codes of the entity and establish a more intimate and harmonious relationship with the Universal Entity. Time establishes separation of experience, and the perceived discontinuity of reality, which in turn creates doubt in the Universal Entity's system of fairness and overarching purpose. The result creates fear that the universe is not a mirror, but rather a chaotic, whimsical energy.

When the human instrument is aligned with the Sovereign Integral and lives from this perspective as a developing reality, it attracts a natural state of harmony. This does not necessarily mean that the human instrument is without problems or discomforts, rather it signifies a perception that there is an integral purpose in what life reveals. In other words, natural harmony perceives that life experience is meaningful to the extent you are aligned with the Sovereign Integral, and that your personal reality must flow from this strata of the multidimensional universe in order to create lasting joy and inner peace.

Gratitude is a critical facet of love that opens the human instrument to acknowledge the role of the Universal Entity and redefine its purpose as a supportive extension of sovereign reality, rather than the whimsical outreach of fate or the exacting reaction of a mechanical, detached universe. Establishing a relationship with the Universal Entity through the outflow of gratitude also attracts life experience that is transformative. Experience that is richly devoted to uncovering life's deepest meaning and most formative purpose.

Observance of Source in All Things

This is the principle that First Source is present in all realities through all manifestations of energy. IT is interwoven in all things like a mosaic whose pieces adhere to the same wall, and are thus, unified. However, it is not the picture that unifies the mosaic, but the wall upon which its pieces adhere. Similarly, First Source paints a picture so diverse and apparently unrelated that there appears to be no unification. Yet it is not the outward manifestations that unify, it is the inward center of energy upon which the pieces of diversity are layered that unifies all manifestations.

This centerpiece of energy is the collective storehouse of all life in all fields of vibration within the Universe of Wholeness. It is First Source who divests ITSELF in all forms through the projection of ITS Source Intelligence in to all fragments of life. Thus, Source Intelligence -- acting as an extension of First Source -- is the unifying energy that is the "wall" upon which all the pieces of life's mosaic adhere. Life flows from one energy Source that links all to All and one to One.

Observance of Source in All Things is the principle that all manifestations of life convey an expression of First Source. It does not matter how far the unifying energy has been distorted or perverted; the Source can be observed. It is the action of perceiving the unification of energy even when the outward manifestations appear random, distorted, unrelated, or chaotic.

When all manifestations of life are genuinely perceived as fragmentary expressions of First Source, the vibration of equality that underlies all life-forms becomes perceptible to the human instrument. Life initially emerges as an extension of Source Reality, and then, as an individuated energy frequency invested within a form. It vibrates, in its pure, timeless state, precisely the same for all manifestations of life. This is the common ground that all life shares. This is the tone-vibration of equality that can be observed within all life forms that unifies all expressions of diversity to the foundation of existence known as First Source. If an individual is able to look upon any form of life with the outlook of equality, then they are observing Source in all things.

While this may seem like an abstract concept, it is actualized through the practice of looking for the outward and inward manifestations of First Source. In a very real sense, the individual expects to observe the workings of Source Intelligence in every facet of their experience. It is the unassailable expectation that everything is in its rightful position, performing its optimal function, and serving its purpose to activate the fullest expression of its life in the present moment. It is the outlook that all life is in a state of optimal realization and experience regardless of condition or circumstance. It is the perception that life is perfect in its expression because it flows from perfection, and that no matter how divergent its manifestations are, life is an extension of Source Reality.

In light of the obvious turmoil and apparent destruction that accompanies life on terra-earth, this is an outlook or perception that seems naive. How can life -- in all its forms and expressions -- be perceived as optimal or perfect? This is the great paradox of life, and it cannot be reconciled with the human instrument's mental or emotional capabilities. It can only be understood in the context of the entity, which is deathless, limitless, timeless, and sovereign. Paradoxes exist because the human drama is too limited in scope and scale to allow a perception of wholeness to intervene and illuminate how the pieces of the puzzle are unified in perfect relation.

The dimensions of time and space and the elements of energy and matter circumscribe the human drama. It is played out upon the stages of survival and dysfunctional behavior because of the Hierarchy's methods of controlling information and manipulating conditions. The entity within the human instrument is largely unexpressed and under-utilized in the human drama, and therefore, life's apparent perversions and imperfections are seen in isolation as impediments to perfection rather than perfection itself.

Life is perfect in its resolve to expand and express an intelligence that is limitless. This is the fundamental purpose of life in all its diverse manifestations, and this is the presence of First Source -- expressing ITSELF as a vibration of equality -- that can be observed in all things. Sensory input derived from the human instrument is limited to frequencies in specific ranges that only convey an echo of this Source vibration. The true frequency is understood through deliberate and focused contemplation of equality inherent in all things, and the ability to penetrate beyond the picture of a thing to the origin of the picture.

These insights require a new sensory system beyond the five-senses that rule the human world in your time. These new senses are the outgrowth of the Source Code activation, and represent the first stage of the transformation experience. With this new perceptual ability, the human instrument will be capable of sensing not only the presence of First Source, but also the timeless essence within all life that is individualized and uniquely separate from First Source.

Calling forth the perceptions of the entity within the human instrument is the ideal method to access a lasting sensitivity to the Source vibration. This is how an individual can develop the ability to observe Source in all things. It is not only that First Source is within every individual manifestation of energy, but is also the wholeness of life itself. Thus, the principle requires an observance of Source in all ITS diverse forms of manifestation, as well as in the wholeness of life.

Nurturance of Life

Life, in this definition, is an individual's sovereign reality. It is subjective and impressionable to the human instrument. Life is the wholeness of experience flowing past the individual's field of perception in the dimension of nowness. There is never a closure to life or final chapter written. It is eternal, but not in the abstract sense of never ending or beginning, but rather in the real sense that life is ever expanding in order to express Source Intelligence in all fields of vibration within the Universe of Wholeness.

The nurturance of life is the principle that an individual is in alignment with the natural expansion of intelligence inherent within all life. This is an alignment that enhances the life-energy that flows past the individual with the clear intent of gentle support. It is the action of identifying the highest motive in all energy forms and supporting the flow of this energy towards its ultimate expression. In so doing, the action is performed without judgment, analysis, or attachment to outcome. It is simply nurturing the energy that flows from all manifestations and supporting its expression of life.

This is a departure from the normal perception that nurturing support can only be granted when energy is in alignment with personal will. However, when the individual can view life as an integrated energy flowing in the expression of expanding intelligence, life is honored as an extension of First Source. In this context, there is no energy that is misdirected or unworthy of support and nurturance. While this may seem contrary to the evidence of abusive energy upon terra-earth, even energy that is laden with "evil intent" is nevertheless energy that is flowing outward in search of a higher expression.

All forms of energy can be nurtured and supported to their highest expression, and this is the fundamental action of this principle. It requires the ability to perceive the causal motive and ultimate expression of life-energy as it passes through the individual's sovereign reality. Energy is an element of life that is so subtly interwoven with form that it is one; in much the same manner as space and time are inextricably linked in union. Energy is a motive. It is intelligent beyond the mind's ability to reason. While it is a force that can be subject to human applications that deny its highest expression, energy is always imbuing life with the motive to expand and evolve.

Life-energy is always in a state of becoming. It is never static or regressive in its natural state. The human instrument is very capable of nurturing this natural expansion of energy to forge new channels of expression and experience. In fact, it is the primary purpose of the human instrument to expand the life-energy that encircles its sovereign reality within physical existence and transform it to new levels of expression that more accurately reflect the perspective of the Sovereign Integral.

There are many specific actions that can be taken to nurture life. Each entity is, in a sense, programmed within its Source Codes to transmute energy through a tremendous variety of means. Working through the human instrument, the entity is able to collect and store energy within the human instrument and re-direct its purpose or application. The transmutation of energy can occur on either the personal or universal levels of expression. That is, within the sovereign reality of an individual, energy can be transmuted to conform to a vision of personal welfare, or aligned with a vision of universal welfare and goodwill.

One of the best methods to transmute energy is through one's belief system. All beliefs have energy systems that act like birthing chambers for the manifestation of the belief. Within these energy systems are currents that direct life experience. The human instrument is aware of these currents either consciously or unconsciously, and allows them to carry it into the realm of experience that exemplifies its true belief system.

By cultivating beliefs that expand and transform energy, the human instrument is able to engage energy systems that are nurturing to life in all its myriad forms. When beliefs are clearly defined as preferred states of being, the energy system is engaged in nowness -- not in some future time. Now. The energy system becomes inseparable from the human instrument and woven into its spirit like a thread of light. Clarity of belief is essential to engaging the energy system of the belief, and allowing the nurturance of life to prevail in all activities.

So again, the nurturance of life is critical to both personal and universal realities within the Universe of Wholeness which contains all the fields of vibration that are interlinked like threads of an infinitely expanding fabric. Thus, as the individual awakens to their creative power to transmute energy and enhance it with the clear intent of gentle support, they become transmitters of Source Reality and architects of the synthesis model of existence.

Through the ongoing application of these life principles, Source Intelligence increasingly becomes the identity of the entity, and the entity becomes the identity of the human instrument. Thus, identity is transformed, and in the wake of this transformation, the Sovereign Integral unifies the human instrument with the entity, and the entity with Source Intelligence. It is this unification and shifts of identity that is the explicit purpose in expressing the life principles of the Sovereign Integral. If there is any other intention or objective these principles will remain misunderstood and their catalytic powers dormant.

It is the perspective of the Sovereign Integral that all life is pure love in its fullest expression, and that in this single concept, all life is conceived and forever exists. This becomes the core belief from which all other beliefs arise, and by their extension, one's belief system emerges with a clear intent of supporting this fundamental perspective; of nurturing, observing, and appreciating the Universe of Wholeness as the cradle from which all life is created, evolves, and ultimately acknowledges.

These life principles are merely symbols represented in words and served to the human instrument as a potential recipe to stir awake the embers of light that tirelessly burn within. There are no specific techniques or rituals that are required to invoke the power of these principles. They are simply perspectives. In a real sense, they are intentions that attract experience that expand consciousness. They do not provide quick fixes or instant realizations. They are amplifiers of personal will and intention that clarify how one lives. Their transformative power is contained exclusively in the intent of their application.

Through these life principles of the Sovereign Integral, the individual can become a master of unlimiting the Self. Boundaries are set, veils are pulled down, and one's light is subdued, simply because external, hierarchical controls create fear of the unknown and mystical practices of a sovereign being. In these life principles, if they are truly applied with proper intent, are the tools to accelerate the emergence of the Sovereign Integral and feel its perspective, its insights, and its empowered abilities to create new realities and shape them as learning adventures that liberate and expand consciousness. This is the underlying purpose of the principles and perhaps the best reason to explore them.

Author:  Shayalana [ Mon Oct 10, 2011 1:01 pm ]
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Author:  The Watcher [ Sun Oct 16, 2011 3:32 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Gathering Of The Selves


Will you consider another option? that of residual imprinting, or background "light". The theory goes that our world is saturated with energetic LIMINAL perception.. whos power source is abuse itself. This is a bit like saying that although a very evil manipulator will abuse children in order to gain adverse power over others within perception.. That there are also a second group of "seers" who see using a type of light that is emmited in society as a whole by peodophilia itself. these people in their arrogance demand visionary power and in so doing MANIFEST abuse around them so they can see but at the same time not be guilty of direct abuse.. rather like usurpers or trouble makers who always remain outside situations. infact i would say that there are some very violent abusefull layers of the human aura which should never be used by an seer. In fact i once wrote a long letter to james of wingmakers and mark hempel requesting that they look into the nature of spiritual greed and its knock on effects within society.. In essence sayign that the vastness of wingmaker knowledge included areas that as a part of intelligent spiritual work would never be accessed by a respectfull person. I tried to tell them that the wingmakers was not just a place to bask in spiritual power or wholeness. but was also a place to exercise energetic self control... for how can a person embody the human condition ethicly unless those parts of humanity negative are embodied as self destruction, forbearance and dare i say it self sacrifice for the common good

I also wrote an letter describing the symbols of chamber two. describing how they showed the complete netweork of interreslationships within humaninty.- father to daughter, father to son, child to mother, child to sexual partner of mothers, virgin-grandmother.. as well as various key descriptions of elemental time progressions directly relevent to the cutting out of energy forms which perpetuate abuse within our current dimension. in essence i am not american or jewish.. and so was ignored.

well i wasnt ignored.. i was actually threstened with the age old jewish curse of being GOLLEMED or turned to wood..

I will answer in point.

Abuse is more than sexual, and the bottom line is that the individual determines 'what is abuse' and thus, when individuals are gathered together (as onearth) 'what is abuse become immediate complexity as does the physical (emotionally base) reactions (see human history for more detail - abeit tweeked)

Through this trauma, the subliminal is created as it pertains to the human reaction and reflects back as the liminal for more detail, hear this:


The subliminal reflected back at the creator makes its existence palatable in the liminal housed within the minds of individuals and collections of individual with similar belief systems and this platability becomes a useful control mechanism over those discovered to be quiet the gullible thing. this produces a partnership of dealership X marks the spot where these roads cross.

The liminal create a stronghold over their human creators and this stronghold is also created by human belief systems. This is a dimension understood as 'Astral' although is barely understood by its human creators, is vast and acts as an effective veil between the individual and that which is able to give the individual an understanding of the deception of the liminal

Ultimately it is human thought and action which create the 'show' for the liminal to watch, and their choices are limited to whatever their creators provide.

One of the cleverist tricks ever performed by the liminal kingdom was to convince its creator the IT was in fact the creator.

Ultimately they are our friends - but not until we believe them to being - which harkens back to our individual monsters - those we have created. of course the added ingredient is the monsters which the stories of our childhood, the abuses from the stronger liminals through sex and strong males with even stronger mothers

We cant tame our monsters by making them attack the external - enough who do so are the creators of that system of abuse.

We can try to communicate with them rationally, with loving humor and forgiveness all around - if only THOSE particular words (potential actions) did not in themselve become a preventative for doing so. Drop the 'excuses' pick up your power and fly.

On the subject of Mark and James - that is your issue. They are the villians of your of choice of creation subliminal

S far as the painting goes - well its back to the Sex...looks like a portal to me and similar to the one we came through.


Author:  The Watcher [ Mon Oct 17, 2011 3:48 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Gathering Of The Selves

"That which is not gathering together is actively keeping things separate."

‎"we cant tame our monsters by making them attack the external" I am of course in agreement.. BUT however.. is it possible to internalise ones own demons as externals.. admittedly this sounds like a psychotic break.. But it does offer the opportunity of transmuting all internal anger rather than simply basking in the spiritual sunshine few people are afforded. My disagreement with the staff of wingmakers is that they bask in the benefits of something spiritual.. but seem to pay no regard to the deliberate manifestation of painfull spiritual lessons or pockets of time within themselves.. THIS is the main principle of the philosophies.. SEE NEXT QUOTE!

quote wingmakers philosophy one-Time is the only factor that distorts this otherwise clear connection between the individual and Universal Entity. Time intervenes and creates pockets of despair, hopelessness, and abandonment. However, it is these very "pockets" that often activate the Source Codes of the entity and establish a more intimate and harmonious relationship with the Universal Entity. Time establishes separation of experience, and the perceived discontinuity of reality, which in turn creates doubt in the Universal Entity's system of fairness and overarching purpose. The result creates fear that the universe is not a mirror, but rather a chaotic, whimsical energy.

ERGO- The wingmakers staff should advocate the almost masochistic application of deliberate exposure to real energy.. but from what i see of heartmath and quantum breath it is sheer HEDONISM and base hierarchy.. without genuine research how can any headway be made.. what we witness is BASKING in the sun.. and not a global rescue effort.

If you want to commune with me, you need to hear me - I said... "On the subject of Mark and James - that is your issue. They are the villians of your of choice of creation subliminal" - this is an issue you have and I would say (from what I have said) that we externalize our inner demons and if you can at least entertain that as a possibility and research that possibility.

Then you may find understanding therein

I can explain myself in regard to Mark and James that it matters not what I think they are, or how I see their activities, or interpret their efforts. These are steps and procedures and ultimately it is up to every individual to collectively participate in this 'global rescue effort' and participation is greatly hampered for the individual who allows themselves the distraction by their vilification of the external which can be sourced within the identification framework of their internal untamed beast, demons whatever they are called.

Indeed, the voices of duality promote within the internal though processes and 'explanation' regarding the external, and from this explanation the twist in theory become the matter of fact, and one in such circumstance is not easily persuaded by the said external to see into the internal and understand that real truth is open to examination, whereas theory parading as truth is walled up behind its fortresses and what but the external is the internal afraid of? Indeed the answer is - it is afraid to see itself as it really is, because it has learned to judge such as [...whatever it is that it cannot identify with...]

In simple terms, the antidote is to turn to the devil on the left and the angel on the right and tell them to get the [Censored] off your shoulders and sort their [Censored] out elsewhere. Crass I know, and somewhat lighthearted - but to the point and I doubt either willl take great exception to that and perhaps might even do what you command (ask) but understand that it is ultimately the choice of the individual as to whether one allows those voices to argue with each other using one's thought processes as a device in which to do so.

Source those voices - they are external in origin - you were a baby once with no such voices and the stories of the world and spoken to the children and the horror of those stories are demonized through the storytellers - what was it we are told and why is it we choose to believe? Is it that we trust the storyteller to have great love and affection for us, that we are 'from them' and thus we are loved? Identify yourself outside the parameters of such engagement - who is it that tells the world it is evil?

And thus the world believes so and acts 'accordingly' thereby proving the 'truth' that the storytellers are portraying truthfulness - rather they simply take a baby and poison it with lies about itself - what it is - its identity. It may not do this with its own children but it does inject such thinking into thier minds regarding other peoples children...on so the world turns...

‎"That which is not gathering together is actively keeping things separate."


in regards to your complete ignorance(not your fault) of my comunnication with james.. I would like to say That i genuinly KNOW the application of the wingmakers pictures on a civilisational scale.. and that since my first communication with them five hundred million people have died on our planet! MY main complaint about the fake seer james is that he cannot see potential future.. only

and please say something about spiritual warriorship..

In relation to our planet and birth/death - this is a flowing thing and the flow increases and decreases through collective action/inaction it is no less natural. You are correct I am ignorant of your communications with James - I am informed of your opinion of James - You are simply relating a story, which is truth as far as you believe. I am not obligated to believe so, especially because I am ignorant about it, other than hearsay, which is like unto theory - as yet unproven from my perspective. As to 'spiritual warriorship,' where did you learn of such a thing, and is it truthful, or yet another story from externals? All in all, I have learned through the internal that complaint regarding external events are often for the purpose of remaining walled within false identity and externalizing through complaint, that which is within. Perhaps as a 'warrior' one could go within and cut that out? Potential future you say? What part do you play in creating that?

Author:  markzorb [ Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:43 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The Gathering Of The Selves

Agreed.....First Source first....and foremost.....really ONLY game in town.

Author:  starduster [ Thu Oct 20, 2011 12:50 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Gathering Of The Selves

when you build a clock ... it is put into a "box" ... wheels and cogs and screws and springs and weights - all sorts of thing go into that box, in an exact way to produce a clock ...

you may discern that there are wheels within wheels - within the box that we call a clock ... but we KNOW, that unless the wheels are aligned in a precise manner, the clock will not work, or it may work, but not give us accurate time ... the integration of the wheels is what makes the clock work - and serve the purpose it was created to do

The Human Instrument can be likened to the box of a clock ... within in it are energetic, intelligence systems (wheels) these systems are perfect in every way, and function independently - but not as a clock . We would like to think that because the box looks like a clock, that it is a clock, and we assume it is projecting the right time, because all the pieces are there ... and it was functioning perfectly until we decided we didn't want to know what time it was ... and we separated the systems.

The clock is still a clock, even if it doesn't project accurate time ... If you are the one who prevents it from working the way it was intended, then you need to fix it - because it is YOUR clock and you rearranged it so it would serve YOU ...the way YOU intended ... perhaps you forgot, you did that - and you believe that YOUR clock, is working properly and everyone else's clock is off (because we all fragmented our consciousness) - collectively we might be able to get an approximate time - by averaging the times being displayed ... but this would not give us the "true" time, just an approximation ... like a sun dial ... it may show us the hour, but not the minutes and certainly not the seconds of a day - if the clouds don't get in the way

The LTO's materials, equate (to me) to a blueprint or schematic of the inter-workings of our clock - we all have the same exact wheels and cogs ... all we need to discover the accurate time, is to realign the systems, so that they work in sync ... as originally intended. But ... even when our clock is whole - that doesn't mean that everyone will come to us for the time ... because they may not believe that we broke our own clocks on purpose, or that what we aren't getting the right time or that the LTO has the blueprints, or that they were followed accurately ... You may even be deceiving self, about having "fixed it" because you may have skip some instructions ... or you may believe that you don't need "instructions" and that you can put it back together "intuitively" ?

you see, it all boils down to what you choose to believe = if you believe that your consciousness is in the same state as it was before you fragmented it - or that YOU didn't fragment it - or that your heart isn't distorted - then you won't do anything to "fix" its state of being ... you will remain IGNOREant of the actual state of your consciousness because you believe it is working accurately ... even though it doesn't serve the purpose it was created for or even the purpose you intended it to serve, in the fragmented state you arranged for it to be in.

as for everything being about sex (dr Freud), I can think of a hundred items beside the vagina that the Chambe r2 painting reminds me of ... the first one is a seed ... course I am probably not as familiar with vaginas as you are ... I couldn't pick my own out of a line up, because I haven't spent that much time looking at vaginas in my life, but I am pretty sure they all have hair and there isn't any hair in the Ch 2 painting ... but then again, I am not an expert on Vaginas or the things other people associate with them (like IUDs ) ... I could probably look right at a painting of a vagina and see something else ... because my mind doesn't associate that form with vagina - when I visualize a vagina - it looks like a butt crack or cleavage (without the hair) ... my horse has a large pink vagina that one might find similar to the Ch 1 painting if it were more colorful, maybe I should take a picture of it ... so we can compare - oh yeah we aren't supposed to "compare" the Wmms with anything ... because that becomes very confusing if you don't know what you are talking about - on both sides of the issue you are comparing ... you might be comparing penises to vaginas ... from a penis point of view ... I hear that most men believe that their penis has some intelligence - I bet you penis even has a name... I may lead a sheltered life, but I don't know of any women who have named their vaginas - or that attribute any form of intelligence to their reproductive system, course we aren't handling ours all day or looking at it from your pov

Author:  starduster [ Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:20 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Gathering Of The Selves

It's a Portal ... Watcher ... you really do need to work on your word association programs - they are distorting your perspective

or could it be, that you are still stuck in the world of dualities ... tisk tisk,


Author:  The Watcher [ Thu Oct 20, 2011 2:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Gathering Of The Selves

It's a Portal ...

Yes, it is. ...a PORTAL

Author:  starduster [ Thu Oct 20, 2011 3:07 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Gathering Of The Selves

the chamber 2 painting, is - for me - one of the most "3D" of the paintings ... not that most of them can not easily render themselves 3D (with focus) ... but the CH 2 one has always "stood out" ... and I can not look at it without seeing its depth ...

what you did, Watcher, when you lightened up its outline, instead of leaving it dark, was make it flat ... and putting the shadow in doesn't help either (unless it looks better in a larger version) ... I think it is great that you play with them ... but when you are discussing them, I think it is only fair to include the actual painting ...

I do understand the science behind putting specific colors next to each other ... your alteration, changed the frequency of the painting ...

now here is something interesting I discovered as a direct results of this discussion ...

remember in the original website the paintings were called "portal paintings" and there were only ten of them ?

well, this is what CH 2 looked like then :


(I enlarged it - but it wasn't much clearer in its original size ... my point being ... see how this painting impacts you - compared to the CH2 Painting we have now


so do you get my point here ... when you compare yours, or the original, to what we have now ... it FEELS different ... can you feel it?
These "tools" (Art Music Poetry) were designed to produce frequencies ... that "touch" your heart and mind and that activate and stimulate a reality based upon Source Reality ...
once again you hate cropped and snipped an important part of this "message" ... and distorted it

Art is being "used" to convey this message via the optical sensors - but the embedded message is being sent "UN-consciously" to the Soul ... and unless you have (re)established a conscious relationship with your Soul - you won't know what the message is ... and will most likely reject it, when the heart tries to send its "impressions" to them mind - where it can be expressed ... of course if you distort the painting - you can't expect to get anything from it - even if it does match your walls now

Author:  The Watcher [ Thu Oct 20, 2011 4:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Gathering Of The Selves

"That which is not gathering together is actively keeping things separate."

The reason I posted the conversation in this thread was to show a resistance to unity and wholeness and is most vocally against individuals gathering as a collective Being.

That which is IGNORANT is also that which is resistant to this concept and that which is resistant is that which makes unfounded claims about another or others, vilifies for the purpose of disruption and sowing seeds of doubt.
Ultimately, the gathering are aware of 'differences' but these are not important enough to focus upon to the point of becoming part of the disruption process to which resistance is intent on supporting.

It is essential for the individual to be aware of disruption and vilifying methods - and it is not so hard in this world to identify, as it hunts potential unification in every way available in its arsenal.

Through the common portal of the vagina we each individualized into this physical world, and from this we immediately began to learn the lessons of disruption, blame, accusation, pride competitive survival technique and every other skill to be honed in the automatic response syndrome of disunity, totally ignorant of our True Source - of what we actually ARE - so as individuals ignorant of that information proceed through the dramas of their lives, creating dramas through their arsenal, it can be understood by those seeking to be enlightened from ignorance, that the methods of the ignorant are essentially forgivable and provide examples of what not to be, if one is seeking the reality of Unity and Wholeness.

An example of potential drama creating expression was posted by you Carolyn - indeed, there is no thing unusual about this, but it affords an opportunity to respond in an expression which overrides the intention of those who use human drama techniques to create vibrations of disharmony, and allows for the possibility of enlightenment for those seeking a way through expressions of ignorance.

You stated - baited - this:

I hear that most men believe that their penis has some intelligence - I bet you penis even has a name... I may lead a sheltered life, but I don't know of any women who have named their vaginas - or that attribute any form of intelligence to their reproductive system, course we aren't handling ours all day or looking at it from your pov

It offers insight into your thought processes - how it is that you 'think' - and this particular thought process is sourced in a particular data stream which is linked to disorder and contributes to the continuation of life in separation.

If the layers of this expression of dishonesty were to be peeled back, the seeker of Truth will be able to understand the source of the expression more clearly.

Little girls and boys get their information [learn what to think] from an external voice, and in the case of your expression above, the likely source is what Jung identified as Animus.
In the case of penises being personalized and named, this is sourced at that external voice which says things like 'your little pee pee' etc... identifying a child's penis (and less often a child's vagina) as something of an entity in itself.

Of course the 'source' of such thinking is a handed down thing and traced back to old - if not ancient times.
The expression is ignorant. But little girls and boys merely accept the external voice because it comes from a form which nurtures makes them feel warm and fuzzy and protected and is identified as being were they come FROM. etc...and eventually mimic the same ignorance to their own offspring....all perfectly 'innocent' and ignorant.

In relation to 'seed' these are very much 'wombs' (so vagina's) and very much PORTALS.

In relation to Jung identifying Animus, it is the controlling influence of education of a disconnected intelligence which has no interest in its own source - it only wants those it influences to regard IT as their source.

We are not of it, we simply came through it.

This is a simplified illustration of that Animus influence in the world.


It need not be taken 'personally' because the 'personality' we Origniate from in truth, is not 'male' or 'female' - indeed, the 'war of the sexes' is merely another product of Animus education - the best way to 'take it personally' is to recognize this as truth, and remove oneself from its influence by identifying what that influence is, and no longer giving ones personal support to its destructive insidious ignorance.


In relation to this thread topic:
"That which is not gathering together is actively keeping things separate."

Author:  Tolsap [ Thu Oct 20, 2011 8:45 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Gathering Of The Selves

Whilst whisking a very thin liquid in a jug I was overcome with a wonderful tingling sensation; my eyes were captivated by the whirlpool in the jug and the motion was so exhilarating I felt I was inside this beautiful whirlpool-portal. When I stopped whisking and the liquid returned to a flat screen the sensation was immediately “missed” - so I started whisking again and did so for several minutes - enjoying this wonderful motion that was felt all around and inside me.

I have been allowing myself to spontaneously move intuitively more and more throughout the day, for example, whilst hanging out some washing I may feel myself drawn to say circling the line with arms extended on each return to the basket and pegs, (childlike representation of flying here - kids think I’ve gone cuckoo and I probably have, but it doesn’t take long before they join in and the fun and joy felt is delightful - instant transformation of a mundane task and a rewarding energetic movement contributed at same). I have even had to resist urges in public to not suddenly twirl or skip down a bloody shopping aisle on occasion - although I do respond to a song now and again and start “dancing” actions with selecting and placing items in trolley; does cause a few glances, but hey, there is nothing to lose here in pride and I’m feeling good at the time!

What strikes me dramatically though is how the motion of seemingly insignificant “tasks” can provide as much energetic benefit as sitting in a structured meditative pose - and the more I am drawn to this observance of fluidity the more I am “seeing” things differently.

What you guys have shared here inspired me to share this because as I am “behind the eight ball” in art and poetry I really appreciated the demonstration and clarity provided of the difference of fluidity in these artworks and their portals which are everywhere. Thank you.

Author:  starduster [ Fri Oct 21, 2011 11:16 am ]
Post subject:  Re: The Gathering Of The Selves

oh wow Bill ( and I am deliberately calling you by a name you don't care for, so you can see how that feels, when someone doesn't respect you enough (after ten years of knowing you) to address you by your actual name ) I must have pushed one of your buttons ... but I know that if someone took one of your paintings ... and altered it, you would be outraged at their ignorance ... now if it wasn't even their Art work, but a copy that they made of an original art that they were commissioned to present in its authentic form - and someone came along and distorted ... you'd be hiring lawyers - so don't try to make excuses for what you have done that alters and distorts the original message embedded in the Art work of the WMs - there is no excuse ... you could have drawn a painting of a vagina that wasn't a copy of someone else's ... so why didn't you ...

Perhaps you could explain, why there are orbs at the top of the CH 2 painting... or why there is a triangle at the bottom ... or why certain colors were used to portray something "flesh colored" ... or why (if this is a vagina) it is suspended in space and not in its natural setting ... I don't think you can, because this isn't YOUR art ... it isn't YOURs to alter - no one gave you permission to do that - and when someone does that to your paintings ... then you will know how that feels


sooooo, how's that feel Bill? does it MATTER? .... does it have ANYTHING to do with sex .... nah, I didn't think so

Author:  The Watcher [ Fri Oct 21, 2011 12:39 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Gathering Of The Selves

does it have ANYTHING to do with sex .... nah, I didn't think so

So you don't think so. did the stork drop you here? :lol:


Author:  starduster [ Fri Oct 21, 2011 2:47 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Gathering Of The Selves

again Watcher - because you limit your self to seeing a Vagina in the CH 2 painting (and the other places this shape exists) you have limited your understanding.

If you were to see this painting as a Portal (as it was intended) then, you might have more respect for it, than you do for a vagina ... and if you had a vagina you would see, clearly how rediculous it is to compare this painting to one - that association is programed into your mind Watcher ... and guess who programed it ?

no, it doesn't have anything to do with Sex - sex has nothing to do with the frequency of Love - it is a bio-logical PROGRAM, used for reproduction ... granted, it is a strong Program, that didn't really need any tweeking by Anu - but the fact that it plays an important role in the success of his programs, and the success of the Human's to progress by giving the the opportunity to re-incarnate, and finish what they came here to do ... it remains a temporary state of being ... in the Eternal Life of a SECU

so when you discover that, who you are, Watcher, is not because of the Vagina you entered this life time to experience MEST through, then maybe you won't see this form as a Vagina any more ... maybe you will see it as the portal that something other than a penis can probe ... and stop giving it attributes that it doesn't have ... and that you can't manipulate

sooo, you are ignoring what I did to your painting Watcher ... and you refuse to answer my direct question - "How does that make YOU feel, to see your work distorted and perverted?"
(be careful, how you respond, because what ever you are feeling about my alterations to your original work, is exactly what the LTO feel, when you do it to theirs.)

with compassion,

Author:  starduster [ Fri Oct 21, 2011 3:17 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: The Gathering Of The Selves

What you guys have shared here inspired me to share this because as I am “behind the eight ball” in art and poetry I really appreciated the demonstration and clarity provided of the difference of fluidity in these artworks and their portals which are everywhere. Thank you.

and thank YOU, for allowing your mind to remain open and pliable ... and I wanted to share with you, that I try to make life "fun" too ... even though my children, though me "immature" because I love to "play" ... and refuse to take anything too seriously ... especially the laundry LOL ... I must confess, I have been known to "fly" in the supermarket and to turn the shopping carts into to circus rides for my grand daughter ... much to the dismay of other shopper who feel threatened by their lack of humor. :lol:

anyway, I thought that because you expressed an interest in the Art - and because most people are not aware of which paintings were considered to be "Portal Paintings" (originally) that I would use this opportunity to share them - as they were originally presented ( I believe in the Original website - but for sure in the FS cd)


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