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 Post subject: Re: What is Valor?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 2:17 am 
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Urahara wrote:
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I'm writing an essay online that will carry that title, Comet -- it is here: http://forum.wingmakers.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1882&start=0


Ignore this comet he is least qualified to know because its based on the HMS which resides as his consciousness since he confines it to just a mind, his mind in particular, of which the limitations are too many to depict here. The Art of the Genuine that star posted above has a glossary of the 6 Heart Virtues and you can see the example James gives of Valor having to do with an incident he witnessed with his father displaying Valor when James was a little boy. It's very powerfully felt and the example of such easier understood than any kind of intellectual discourse unrelated to reality. :wink: :D


Uhm... wait ?

How exactly do you know that what Nathan says is entirely based on the HMS and that he confines it just to mind ? This would discredit him and w/e he says.

You basicly state Nathan as someone who is dead wrong and misunderstands and thus should not be listened to.


Comet can speak for themself and has experienced CV before and CV'S need to control and manipulate people with his heavy duty judgments of them if they don't agree with him. Hardly a virtue to speak of there. Yet if you want to defend him without researching a good number of his posts that is entirely up to you. Some of us have been here through the years and he still feels like we are a threat to him. Or his ego does. You weren't on the old forum and don't know why it was closed down. We know why and it has everything to do with what we do on this forum now in insisting that it is to discuss the WMM and not promoting our own BS unrelated to the WMM. Instead of looking to people here for answers or to criticize maybe you should review some of the materials like some of us do. Noone is here to live up to your expectations. And Watcher was banned from the old forum and had to beg his way back onto this one and is still using the same old nasty ways he did on the old forum. He would private message new people and tell them the rules, they were his rules, and he would post the private conversations he had with them so as to keep them in line. That was so many years ago and he still does the same things now. Pity and rather desperately pathetic.

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 Post subject: Re: What is Valor?
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shayalana you are truely an idiot
silly lies :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: What is Valor?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 11, 2010 7:02 am 
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Comet wrote:
I think i have an idea but just wanted to make sure i understand 100% what Valor is?


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Practicing the art of the genuine is magnetically attracting these fields of intelligence into your consciousness and then expressing them in your behavior and actions to all forms of life that cross your path every moment in time and every centimeter in space to the best of your ability. page 5 Art of the Genuine

This is practicing the art of the genuine, and when this is done, your feelings become more divinely inspired, more energetically magnetic, more liberating for all. page 5

The six heart virtues are given to each of us from our Creator so that we in turn can express them–as faithfully as we can–to our fellow beings. That is the purpose in our relationships as simply as it can be depicted in language. When we place our attention on these virtues we are beginning to practice their expression even as we think about them. When we imagine their fullness–their energetic structures–we are practicing them at a new, more potent level.The practice is not just expression; it is contemplation and study as well . page 6

Practicing the art of the genuine will enable you to regain and reset your emotional balance with an adeptness that may surprise you. The heart virtues are magnetically powerful because they are the textures of divine love–the most potent force of the multiverse. When you practice these virtues they pull you from the enculturation of the social order and place you in a position of co-creation–not co-reaction. page 7

I (James) have resisted the temptation to define the six heart virtues in detail, but I will provide a starting point for their definition so you can embroider them according to your own experience and insight.page 7


Comet, what you have learned in your study and contemplations of Valor?

I found the following:
1. The six heart virtues are intelligences which you can feel coming into to your energy field. I did in a very strong way after a few months of contemplations.

2. When we go into contemplation and study them, we learn their intelligent energetics defined for each of us and which adds to what James has given us.

3. Did I practice? Yes, John and I did a six months movement mediation on virtues and wrote our feeling down, you can find John’s in the When-Which-How Guide.

4. James is telling us the importance of having these intelligent energies working with us at this time is for the good of all humanity as we are feeling the compression of this shift. These intelligences shift our behaviors and bring a positive energies to the planet.

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 Post subject: Re: What is Valor?
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shayalana you are truely an idiot
silly lies :lol:


Liar. It's generally known you were banned and that's why you went o Oona's forum who also is banned but you missed this one so much you begged to be allowed here and you had to do lotz and lotz and lotz of begging. I guess that makes you a beggar. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

There are a few here who remember you on the old forum and a leader of the OLD BOYS CLUB. You screened the newbies by PMing them and warning them against certain people and telling them that you had started the forum with a suggestion to Mark Hempel as if you originated the entire thought of it. At least that is what you told everyone so that they would think it was your forum. You were eventually banned from that forum because of your obnoxiousness and arrogant very negative behavior along with others of your kind. I guess something don't change even though you have even more at your disposal to use in a positive way you still chose hubris. So that makes you a very arrogant beggar who needs a device to tell him what to do. :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: What is Valor?
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Comet try the Rising Heart breathing exercise it is awesome and simple to do. And you being so open and honest in your lovely simplicity will benefit greatly from it not to speak of all those others who can benefit from you doing the Rising Heart. You can ask your heart questions and your mind in coherence with the feelings of your Energetic Heart will give you answers if not in powerful feelings themself. And as a special bonus it opens your heart to give to everyone else some of your unique and kind essence. :wink:

Some of the breathing exercises in these materials are really very effective Comet and help a lot in understanding and knowing things. What is so wonderful about that is it comes from within you from the teacher that you are. :wink:

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...silly childish lies... while I dont agree that your pal PMed me her opinions I have to say you do live up to her opinion of you...

a great couple...


of hypocridiots

...you two do make

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...silly childish lies... while I dont agree that your pal PMed me her opinions I have to say you do live up to her opinion of you...

a great couple...


of hypocridiots

...you two do make


Really, coming from you, how could I possibly care? You are so ignorant as usual having no clue what is going on overall. Bless you brother and if you ever start feeling positive emotions, may you learn.

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 Post subject: Re: What is Valor?
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Watcher wrote:

"Compassion for both the child and the mother were present in my father, and I believe the mother knew this. This is an example of how the virtues of the heart seldom appear in isolation, but rather as an ensemble that braid themselves for strength and potency for a given situation."

Yes. Compassion isnt about seeing sides and making judgements bIased on personal beliefsystems - playing cops and robbers, angels and demons, saints and sinners, formed and transformed - and the virtues work together - they are parts of a whole - valor without compassion really is no virtue.



Thank you Watcher.... I appreciate this. I do not resonate with some of the expressions that claim 'valor' because compassion is missing. Compassion cares about everyone and one can hear it when it is extended. 'Valor' without compassion may not be effective. As James says, there is 'artistry' in knowing which ones and how to express or combine them for expression.

There are different circumstances though.... When someone is being abused (mentally, emotionally, physically), of course their expression of valor will look different....they must say NO MORE.

The Heart Virtues, when properly applied, facilitate equality/wholeness/unity.



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Karen: Thank you Watcher.... I appreciate this. I do not resonate with some of the expressions that claim 'valor' because compassion is missing. Compassion cares about everyone and one can hear it when it is extended. 'Valor' without compassion may not be effective. As James says, there is 'artistry' in knowing which ones and how to express or combine them for expression.

There are different circumstances though.... When someone is being abused (mentally, emotionally, physically), of course their expression of valor will look different....they must say NO MORE.

The Heart Virtues, when properly applied, facilitate wholeness/unity.


William: Yes Karen - I appreciate your comment here.

I think when first identifying the components of the heart virtues and comparing these attributes in the different situations we begin to understand clearly how they each work in aggregate.
These virtues are equal in that they are necessary to each of the others and any one which is placed as more important than another renders all impotent.

This is because they are altogether that which makes up the Heart of The Genuine.

In the different circumstance that we may find ourselves in – we do not often have time to decide ‘which virtue’ to use and indeed, it isn’t even necessary because these will identify themselves at the given moment and whichever takes the lead, the others will be there in support of…



In face to face everyday interaction yes – the abused can rise above fear (or whatever it is that would normally keep them silent) and say “STOP! NO MORE!”

Sometimes the abuse won’t stop – not immediately but something will have changed within the abused – a realization on the abusers intention, instability, inability – but this is a rare circumstance I would say…that once confronted in such a way, the abuser will stop the abuse and begin the steps necessary to transform their behavior into something which will one day be of similar use in helping other abusers transform inappropriate fragmented destructive behavior into something worthy of being called ‘Human’…

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 Post subject: Re: What is Valor?
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Hey, Comet, my friend, have you taken any orb pics lately? :wink: :D

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 Post subject: Re: What is Valor?
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Shayalana wrote:
Hey, Comet, my friend, have you taken any orb pics lately? :wink: :D


You changing the subject Shay :lol: :lol:

No i haven't!! :D

How about you?


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Comet wrote:
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Hey, Comet, my friend, have you taken any orb pics lately? :wink: :D


You changing the subject Shay :lol: :lol:

No i haven't!! :D

How about you?



Ya...well...like you I prefer action than just sitting around and discussing things to death. You have been the valor you ask for the meaning of every time you have stood your ground with someone in complete openess and honesty and compassion for both them and you knowing it was what needed to be done in that moment. Well.... grab your cam and start shootin and see who hangs with you from the multidimensional and extraterrestrial realms. :shock:

:wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Crotthofe you're obviously a SPAMMER. Stop wasting ours and your time on this forum. Noone will click on your links and if anything you'll be ousted soon enough. This forum is monitored if that is what you are testing it for. You're outta here.

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