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 Post subject: Rising Heart
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Here is a place where the topic of the resent e-Paper The Rising Heart can be discussed.

http://www.eventtemples.com/downloads/p ... %20version).pdf

(PS - is there a way to copy the e-Paper without having to type out the words.)

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Great idea, wish I would of thought of it. :)

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The Watcher wrote:
Here is a place where the topic of the resent e-Paper The Rising Heart can be discussed.

http://www.eventtemples.com/downloads/p ... %20version).pdf

(PS - is there a way to copy the e-Paper without having to type out the words.)


Don't you see the Rising Heart as old material? Well, perhaps old material in a new fluffy package, William? Not to say I don't like the paper. My parents were going over some such ideas clear back in 1976. I've heard about it since hmmmmm.

What is the first thing you would like to discuss about it William?


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Also, when one is in a state of emotional chaos the frontal lobe or the otherwise higher centers of the brain become inhibited . In that state no matter who you are you are not capable of making the wisest choices. That is why some people can do some of the dumbest things. They made choices when in a highly emotional and cortically inhibited state.
This is why forgiveness is so very important...

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What is the first thing you would like to discuss about it William?

The first thing I would like to discuss is how to copy and paste from the download.

I dont want to bother with having to type.

How are you parents Enigma. I imagine they must be very ontoit enlightened ones since 1976.

You almost sound like you need to yawn!

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What is the first thing you would like to discuss about it William?

The first thing I would like to discuss is how to copy and paste from the download.

I dont want to bother with having to type.

How are you parents Enigma. I imagine they must be very ontoit enlightened ones since 1976.

You almost sound like you need to yawn!


Oh no Watcher. I am very interested in the process as people are exponenttially coming more into this awareness. I've been waiting for it. My comment was benign. Sorry I can't pretend that this is new though. it does not mean that I am bored at all.

Did you ever hear of Damanhur?

Sorry I can't tell you about the download. I ust printed out the paper. Maybe james is not wanting anymore quotes :lol: Maybe time to just talk?


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Here is a place where the topic of the resent e-Paper The Rising Heart can be discussed.

What is the first thing you would like to discuss about it William?



Is there anything you want share or to discuss about it enigma?

I opened the thread for that purpose.

Its open to whoever wants to talk about it.

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 Post subject: Re: Rising Heart
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zephir wrote:
haha, it's funny how one little comment can throw people of balance. like when our dear enigma said :'... ah, this is old stuff'.

isn't it time to show some compassion and there?
like appreciation that he himself appreciated the role of heart in life.

well, its true - there is nothing new under the sun.


Apparantly not.
There are still those old habituals who pop in and out, mock about how "old" this material is(to them) but what do you know!

They actually don't bother to contrbute any more than haha's!

The invitation to contribute was put into place - and that is all one can do.
It is very immature to see the small-minded haha's popins to point and to laugh. I do not believe therefore, that the Rising Heart information is 'old stuff' to them.

Well...maybe it is. Maybe it has been chewed over by them but not ingested.

All I asked of enigma was what enigma asked of me.

I did not create this particular thread because I wanted to contribute my opinion/understnding of Rising Heart, (at the moment) but simple to invite anyone who wanted, to contribute.

So it is 'funny' what turned up to have a giggle and let it be known this is 'old news'

'Old' it may be to you zephir/enigma - but it has yet to be invited into yourself as a real an vibrant alternative, as far as your contribution/response so far indicates.

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 Post subject: Re: Rising Heart
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William you seem to me the one with hostile feelings. You go first. If you want to talk about old patterns, in the past some of yours have been to get people to comment so you can blast it to pieces, sometimes contradicting you own previous commentary simply for the sake of argumant it would seem. My intentions are not "haha". What makes you think that? Your intentions seemed innocent enough so I was willing to talk.

Are you now ready top acknowledge the heart intelligence and energy? I've been ready for a long time. You asked me to comment on the heart paper and I'm working on it.

Hope we can get past this. WOOt!


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The Watcher wrote:
['Old' it may be to you zephir/enigma - but it has yet to be invited into yourself as a real an vibrant alternative, as far as your contribution/response so far indicates.



If you are still making judgement calls like this. I strongly suggest ye work on yoursel fer a bit mate. Or else point out the exact thing that yer basing yer judgement on.

Are you infering that if Zephyr and I don't kowtow and say "ohh ahhhhh this is all new. Nothing like this ever before . . . that we have not Heart values. Bah! yer unchanged mate. inspect your own eye.



I said, "good day". :)


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 Post subject: Re: Rising Heart
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sigh...I understood, clearly, your intentions to discuss the RH paper ...and look what happened...instead of discussing the paper.

One can not avoid seeing how some have no desire to do anything but draw attention to themselves, and disrupt and detract from the topic...yet when this is brought to their attention is considered "controlling"
I would request, that if you are not contributing to the topic you refrain from posting in it...especially if you have only posted to belittle either the topic or the members. We have a topic designed for just such discussions...please feel free to use it and allow others to discuss the topic with out fear of being bashed.



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My suggestion to each of you is to read and re-read this paper several times before you make any judgment as to its usefulness or application in your spiritual life. Then, use your intuition to guide your interpretation of the technique. The techniques of Lyricus are never spelled out in burnished detail: its teachers prefer to provide paradigms, concepts, and framework, leaving the precise implementation or blueprint to the individual. It is the singular initiation.


maybe someone would like to share with us their own "techniques" ... I have already shared mine in the WWH topic.

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The rising heart paper was coup de grace for me (achieving victory over the static) ...again I have made the technique my own by standing and stretching out my arms palms down but arched back, I feel I can inhale deeper this way and my arms give the exhale direction, kinda holding it down... with my feet on the ground I feel more connected...the stream of energy from the Central Sun is not the same ole sun beam I had grown accustomed to... I can't wait to try this when the planets all line up on the 23-4th with the Galactic Center...and a blood red moon...


it seems only fair to give it a try before you pass sentence on something you have not experienced.

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 Post subject: Re: Rising Heart
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Oh fer James sake!


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 Post subject: Re: Rising Heart
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oona, perhaps you would be so kind as to dig up that "old" doc that you parents read you so long ago about the Rising Heart, so we can be enhance with Ellen G Whites abilities to channel god.

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"The lightbody reveals one's inner light and wisdom.
It is the vehicle of creativity
that telepathically listens to the family of light
and expresses its unique signature
of insight
in response to the family of light

adding dimension and nuance
that deepens our interconnection
and collective wisdom"

RH p4



another level of respect and gratitude for our creators is inspired by the contemplation of the Lightbody

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 Post subject: Re: Rising Heart
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There is a great tendancy among untransformed beings to bury truth in copious posts of quoted yet undiscussed material. It helps alleviate the nervousness of the inner voices speaking of their need to adjust their hearts.

Rising Heart will eventually prevail. patience pays.


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 Post subject: Re: Rising Heart
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some can capture the essence of the original materials without putting a spin on it...I found the above passage left me speachless :D
and the one below, inspiring.

"The breath of the Rising Heart is the practive of breathing from the Central Sun
and expressing this breath energy into the planetary grid.
It is the method of activation
taught on all planets -
for those aligned to the Plan of Expansion into the Lands Unknown.

When you read these words you will understand intutively
for you know well the mysterious purpose
that stirs you awake and compels you to action."


RH pg 8

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 Post subject: Re: Rising Heart
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I just finished the "Rising Heart" paper.
What I found interesting is that it speaks of ascension in terms of "Planetary Ascension" as opposed to individual soul ascension.
Another interesting term is the "Plan of Expansion". While I have my own thoughts on this, I am curious as to what others may think.
What is expanding?

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Source Reality.

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Nathan wrote:
Source Reality.


Me too...

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 Post subject: Re: Rising Heart
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I have been practicing this technique every night before going to sleep for quite a while. Although some nights i would forget The rising heart spelled it out way too clear to waste anymore time. I can say this makes my dreams a lot more vivid and wierd(other worldly). It is quite natural for me to practice this during the day as well.

I always wanted to explain what this technique is like down to the very minute detail but basically the paper said to leave it up to the individual. It was pure bliss the first time I tapped into this new power. The pineal gland truly speaks the language of light.

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yes! on the dreams, since the beginning of Nov (activation of Holmes) I have been having one lucid dream after another...


The breath through the Rising Heart is an activator - of your light body

Internal coherence within your human instrument
is the sustaining and evolving force of this activation
independent of the travails that befall you or the human family

You can generate this internal coherence through the practice of breathing through the Rising Heart
and expressing the radiant beauty of the higher light
through the virtues of the heart,
the intelligence of the higher mind,
and the ascendant beauty of the spirit we all share

RH p 10

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CoulterIV, you can do it, if this is one of the things you would want to do, you are an individual, and you know what you're saying, then take your time and by all means, try to articulate it. Always yours, cv

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The radiant and intelligent expression of the light body enmasse (as a group) is the true meaning of life
in the planetary axis because
it is the action of collective intelligence that enables
the planned and unplanned evolutionary paths to converge

and empower the planetary shifts
that enable dimensional ascension
for all who are prepared.(transformed)

This increase in the expression of light and love
within the planetary sphere
opens the Grand Portal (soul)

which is the gateway for the planet to access the fifth dimensional matrix
of pure, connective energy,
which is, in essence, Divine Love-Intelligence


RH p 8

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