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starduster
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Post subject: Re: Rising Heart Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:49 pm |
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zephir wrote: well oona, I think it's great that people have been working on this since 60's and 70's since Oona failed to respond to this post, I think that it should be addressed...Just because people in the 60s and 70s were aware of this or similar techniques does not mean that they were appropriate for that time, but they were an answer to a sincere inquiry by perhaps someone who was incarnated to "plant" them...as is in the case of other "seeded" materials they need the right conditions to grow. The reason why they didn't materialize the fifth dimension decades ago, was two fold.... one, due to the fact that most were not aware of their ability to "transform" or activate their entities consciousness so it could be comprehended and expressed by the Lightbody...very few were effective...in drawing in enough energy...to attract the matter needed to materialize it in this physical environment. two: timing...not only are we (personally) aligned with the plan, but we are in a planetary alignment with the Cosmic Center...from whence the energy is now flowing directly to earth.
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Oona
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Post subject: Re: Rising Heart Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:53 pm |
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You seem to be holding yourself out as a teacher rather than organizer of a study group. You method is not that of a student.
If it is a STUDY group then I wish you all the very best.
I do know the materials. No comment on the rest of your claim.
_________________ Activist in Global Awareness Shift
Every day to those who give me the opportunity to exercise Spiritual Maturity, I am grateful and give thanks
This is not a time of individual ascension and then dutiful service to teach. . . . ~J~
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Oona
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Post subject: Re: Rising Heart Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:04 pm |
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zephir wrote: well oona, I think it's great that people have been working on this since 60's and 70's I was in the process of answering when there was an opposing viewpoint proffered; SD says: since Oona failed to respond to this post, I think that it should be addressed...Just because people in the 60s and 70s were aware of this or similar techniques does not mean that they were appropriate for that time, but they were an answer to a sincere inquiry by perhaps someone who was incarnated to "plant" them...as is in the case of other "seeded" materials they need the right conditions to grow. The reason why they didn't materialize the fifth dimension decades ago, was two fold.... one, due to the fact that most were not aware of their ability to "transform" or activate their entities consciousness so it could be comprehended and expressed by the Lightbody...very few were effective...in drawing in enough energy...to attract the matter needed to materialize it in this physical environment. two: timing...not only are we (personally) aligned with the plan, but we are in a planetary alignment with the Cosmic Center...from whence the energy is now flowing directly to earth..........." That is completely off base. I will answer the post further in due time. The above is completely false. Each step of this transformation is perfectly orchestrated. The reason SD needs to defend this posture so vigorously is that she is aware that she was one of the ones impeding the progress of those who "knew" and were "seeded" by saying things like "the Light is Lucifer himself". I knew her then and tried to talk to her about the future. She does not want to acknowledge this Zepher. In respect for William's thread I will discuss that with you in another thread if you wish unless you feel it directly relates to William's question. There is a very long history leading up to the release of these materials. I say these things to keep truth within the MYTH this time.
_________________ Activist in Global Awareness Shift
Every day to those who give me the opportunity to exercise Spiritual Maturity, I am grateful and give thanks
This is not a time of individual ascension and then dutiful service to teach. . . . ~J~
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starduster
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Post subject: Re: Rising Heart Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:20 pm |
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Oona, as you say, everything is "orchestrated" and carefully planned...the seed springs forth long after it is planted.
the fact that you feel a need to attack the messenger, because you disagree with the message, reveals your desire to distract from the message...which btw you had days to respond to...LOL
if you could just control your desire to kill the messenger and discuss the message, thing would continue to go on smoothly and the reader could discern for themself what resonates with them...without all the chest beating.
The fact that the 5th dimension is not materialized, and the RH papers just recently released speaks for itself.
_________________ Life is an infinite series of opportunities to demonstrate Understanding and Unconditional Love
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Oona
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Post subject: Re: Rising Heart Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:28 pm |
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That's FLUFF. You're having a very hard time accepting the truth. I understand. keep working on it. I've seen you come this far. What a difference eh? i am not attacking you. You and you're not the "messenger". All is well and everything is running very smoothly, I am sure of it.
_________________ Activist in Global Awareness Shift
Every day to those who give me the opportunity to exercise Spiritual Maturity, I am grateful and give thanks
This is not a time of individual ascension and then dutiful service to teach. . . . ~J~
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Post subject: Re: Rising Heart Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 7:12 pm |
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what is your truth Oona...you are so busy attacking the messenger, you have not submitted a perspective of the message...or are you still ignoring it and trying to distract everyone from it? yes...I am a messenger...as are we all...our perspective is the message that we "recieved" and are sharing. now are you willing to discuss the message and share YOUR perspective (message) or are you just going to keep on changing the subject to ME? what have your last three posts added to the discussion of the Rising Heart? as it says in the second paragraph...which supports my perspective: Quote: Earth is passing through one of these corridors of higher dimensional light energy right now, and many of you are aware of this. This is part of your awakening and ACTIVATION:... believe it or not, I am interested in what you might have to share...but I suspect if you did have something substantial, you would have shared it by now...eh?
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Post subject: Re: Rising Heart Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 3:40 pm |
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I love this paper so much, It has become my favorite "new materials" ... and I find myself drawn to it often... Yesterday when I was pondering over Spiritual Center, the cover picture of this Paper came to mind, when I was thinking about the "hub" that the EVT 3 Guide talks about ... . ............ In order to make the Sovereign Integral consciousness more concrete, think of your consciousness as a hub with many spokes diverging from it. pg 7 It also serves to visualize the "portal" talked about here in that same section: You can think of this as the portal through which the individual can pass into Oneness and remain an individual
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Post subject: Re: Rising Heart Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 3:53 pm |
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The human instrument (body, emotions, and mind) serves both the Spiritual Center and the personality as they interact with their local universe............. Even though these "visuals" may be confusing (to me) , the one thing that is clear in all of this, is that the Sovereign Integreal perspective is required ... and I firmly believe, that Spiritual Activation is exactaly the same as "Triggering the Transformation" ... because without developing this perspective the human mind is not able to comprehend being "outside" of this dominante reality or the vastness of the Sovereign Integrals "home". This quantum link is what we refer to as the Sovereign Integral state because it is the source and facilitation of Oneness. The level of individual perception and expression that is fully connected to Oneness is the Spiritual Center of your consciousness.
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Post subject: Re: Rising Heart Posted: Tue Mar 09, 2010 3:59 pm |
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so how to make it practical ??? how to bring it into the MEST and the dominate reality that we self create? .............. I appreciate (so much) how all these materials inter relate ... if you can't get the "message" from one, then there is another ... saying the same thing, in another "language" ... with visuals to assist us ... we have so much to be grateful for, it never ceases to amaze me that we get all of this, maybe the most valuable things we will ever have the opportunity to experience ... for free !
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Post subject: Re: Rising Heart Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 3:40 pm |
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I can do a decent half lotus but find a full one too much ....pose is very grounding and makes you feel centered in the Arcturian Corridor I liked looking at and felt Rising Heart Love from the experience..very 5th Dimension....was nice.
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Post subject: Re: Rising Heart Posted: Sun Mar 14, 2010 8:23 pm |
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markzorb wrote: I can do a decent half lotus but find a full one too much ....pose is very grounding and makes you feel centered in the Arcturian Corridor I liked looking at and felt Rising Heart Love from the experience..very 5th Dimension....was nice. I don't even try ... I find a comfortable chair far more conductive to "relaxation" than this "lotus" position, and most of the time I lie down for meditation... who cares if you drift off to sleep if you are still in that "state of consciousness" that is open to inspiration ??? I have talked to many people who meditate on a regular basis and they lie down too ... we are not all skinny little yogas who find this position comfortable... and the body only distracts from one's state of mind if the balls of your buttox are being pinched I really hate the fact that this paper is one of those PDF files that can not be c & Ped and brought in here for discussions... I have painstakingly posted "quotes" from it but it is very time consuming ... and as I mentioned this has become one of my favorite "new materials" ... mainly because, like the EVTs it allows me to become directly involved with the work, when practicing the RH technique ... which I try to do daily and which is becoming more materialized with my practice ... Instead of seeing my breath diffused when blown to the Earth, I see it filling my QP as if it were a balloon, with golden flakes of energy particles ... this not only energizes my own "magnetic field" ... but by so doing, it magnifies, what is being radiated out ... in a direction that is often overlooked and what the Art of the Genuine has defined as the facets of the merkaba that focus on Humility and Forgiveness ...transmuting my energy on the grid that encompasses the entire planet ... one breath at a time... one day at a time... every effort collectively fills the Earth with the energy it needs too ... I consider it an honor to be a part of this endeavor ... not to forget the Lift my heart gets from doing it  PS, I appreciate you sharing your experience using this technique with us ... the LC's are such a wonderful source of 5D perspectives ... I only wish we had access to more of them.
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Post subject: Re: Rising Heart Posted: Mon Mar 15, 2010 6:22 pm |
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Just looking at the picture works...pose really does not matter....though the straighter the chakra alignment the easier the energy flow....problem with me laying down...is falling asleep ...comfortable chair just might be the best for extended trip,....find in breathe of peace....and out breathe exhaling joy....agitates and naturally repels the Ani Moe....moves them along.........Dragon food.
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