Hi

I`m sorry , I don`t know where should I post it....

I`m 19 years old and I`m into WMM`s for about 3 years now. I guess I immersed myself as I read everything there was, coupled to hours upon hours of contemplation.

I had problems before but lately it was very bad. About a month ago I was diagnosed with Psychosis + OCD. Now its getting better but I wanted to ask for some help, maybe advice. I`ll add that I`m quite a lonely person, no friends for entire for about 3.5 years.

I think the PC interview was big part of what caused my current state.

I don`t know ... I just wanted to share this with someone here because there are people who might be willing to give some useful advices ...

Thank you

I don't know what you expect from us but if you want to join us in our discussion of the WMMs, nothing prevents you... but if you are looking for friends, maybe you should try a chat-room focused on that.

I am not surprised that some percieve the WMMs as theriputical, but even with a strectch of the imagination they could only be seen as self-help, no one can transform for you or even tell you how, other than what is laid out in the website to be used ... we have very little in common.

You say you have read the materials, and immersed yourself in them, but have you adopted the Principals in the First Philo as your way of life? Have you created a Chamber of Self? Have you danced the Grand Cycle? Printed off any of the Paintings to ponder ... or done the other techniques suggested in the Fourth Philo? or listened to any of the Music in depth as suggested?

What is your most preferred topic ... what do you want to discuss, or share your findings about ? As you must know by now, this forum has specific guidelines to help keep us focused on the materials and not personalities... what are you the most focused on in the materials?

Listen to the music and really study the paintings and find which one especially catches your eye and let it take you in. For me, a certian painting literally took me in and I was transfixed through the experience of it. I won't say which one because it may be another painting that calls to you. With the music the same, a particular piece of music kept playing over and over before it was made available on cd so whatever works for you and it will if you can open yourself up for it , try using your Heart and let it take care of your head...

Welcome Urahara,

I'm sorry that you haven't been well recently but it's great that you are improving!

Are you implying that the WMM were partly instrumental in causing your psychosis?



That interview with James was certainly challanging and he did say that if it felt 'Heavy' that you should discontinue reading it and come back at a later time.
However that's irrelevent now and your number one priority is to get well. You are only nineteen and have been studying the WMM since you were sixteen. That's a time when perhaps you were trying to study at school also?

I'm sorry to hear that you are feeling lonely but this is sure to change.

Be kind to yourself and try to give and receive as much love as you can. Take it slowly with the materials in WingMakers and remember there is no rush to learn. Your main priority is to your health and well being.

You are nineteen. Try to socialise a little more and make friends in the real world rather than online. When you are feeling strong again I'm sure you can add to the discussions on the Forum.

I wish you a happy and healthy future.

does OCD keep you from joining groups ? ... like the YMCA or a gym ? There are hundreds of groups that you can join as a volunteer or some even pay you, like Hospice ... There is probably even a local OCD group that will get you mingling with people again ... http://www.geonius.com/ocd/organizations.html

not only will you meet others there who have learned how to manage with OCD but you may learn more about what you can do to help yourself get it under control ...

I know that you may not be able to appreciate it now, but almost everyone I know, has some sort of dis-order or dis-ease, that they deal with ... and if you look at it as a challenge, instead of a curse, then you will understand, that having it was no "mistake" but something you needed in this stage of your progress as a Sovereign ... and I also know that this won't make you feel better about having it, but there are a lot worse things that you could have.

Starduster didn't listening to the WMM really help you in some very challenging times? Didn't it help you through them? These materials are encoded which means they will and do effect you to the degree you are open to them and even if its a very small degree of openness you will eventually benefit from it. Why am I the only one saying this? Except for star, others are not convinced , maybe because they find it too embarrassing for how it looks to others and others approval is far too important to them and means more than what their Heart tells them which is another embarrassing thing for them to admit. Get out of your head and take a giant leap of faith into the middle of your Heart. The old paradigm of psychology doesn't work because it excludes the Heart for the sake of maintaining a dead head system. There are so many things in these materials to chose from for aid let your Heart be the guide and put your focus on that more than anything you have heard from others about having something wrong with you. Do you understand what I am saying here? If you keep focusing on something wrong what do you thing you will experience? Focus on being helped and listen to your Heart, these materials have a beautiful and gentle way of helping you if you let them and to the degree you can open the gentle and kindness of your own being. Just try it . I suggest the paintings and music because they are more direct and words can be so cumbersome and the Heart is more direct with music and then the paintings. Hope this helps you.