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 Post subject: Re: crop circles 2012
PostPosted: Sat Sep 01, 2012 1:47 pm 
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This is the best I could manage at photographing the crop circle I found.
http://www.cropcircleconnector.com/2012 ... 2012a.html
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wow, what a treat for you ! ... I see you have posted it to the CCC so perhaps they will take get a shot of it from the air ... or maybe you could give us a idea of what the formation looked like - whole?

think this was the effects of the "blue moon"?

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wow, what a treat for you ! ... I see you have posted it to the CCC so perhaps they will take get a shot of it from the air ... or maybe you could give us a idea of what the formation looked like - whole?

think this was the effects of the "blue moon"?

http://www.google.co.uk/imgres?imgurl=h ... A&dur=3703
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Starduster,
I actually find quite a few of these, but say nothing normally.
I am more interested in working out what causes these downed crops rather than becoming embroilied in the constant drama called ....who done it.
I noted whole fields flattened in wheat just this morning that conformed to what I detect, they are normally classed as wind damage, but here's a thought.
The answers ain't blowin in the wind...because the wind ain't blowin.

The atoms of the atmosphere are acting under attraction, thus a pull, not a push.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TL_FEFMlzVY
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 Post subject: Re: crop circles 2012
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the great bob Dyan eh? Been think'n about what you said about magnetics ... and I can not dismiss them as easily as you seem able to do ... isn't it the magnetic s that give "energy" its life ? the flow of the magnetic currents, would be what activates "the dance" ... the more I research "ley lines" the more illusive they become, they apparently are not "fixed" - even though you and others state certain ones are ?? It keeps being brought to my attention , in relationship to my cell-phone mystery .. It is not my phone (no ones' phones work here) its not the "service area" - everyone else around me gets the signal ... it could be because I am dug into the ground, but then I could get the signal outdoors (but I don't) ... and here's an interesting side note, - this location seems to suck WiFi signals ... when I plug in my wifi (so the grandkids can stay connected) and I forget about unpluging it when they leave ... within 24 hrs it depletes my satillite "allotment" - I've discussed it several times with my ISP and they assure me that wifi has nothing to do with my "downloads" but every time I plug it in ... it sucks them dry ... maybe I am sitting on a vortex ? It has also been suggested that I am in the cross roads of the broadcast range of two Army Posts ... does that make any sense ... again, it is all about frequency IMO ... maybe I am broadcasting so broadly that my PEMF extends the radius of my property (snicker) ... I love a challenge, perhaps dousing WILL reveal the source of this mystery

I personally experience a better sleep when my feet are in the south ... whether I am on "ley lines" or not, - but that is not necessarily - the whole truth, I may have felt the effects of being on a "activated place" while sleeping with my feet in the South ... and not been aware of it ... I still haven't doused my house (its on the list) ... but after sleeping in three directions while here, I re-affirmed my previous belief, that I get the best sleep when I am aligned N/S :wink:

I just may find a "hot spot" under my bed - that accounts for it ... but that remains to be seen :D

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for other just as "lost" as I am - trying to comprehend this, here is a very simple explaination ... that I can grasp - that may be used as a plank to bridge our way to this understanding (or not) ... what say you Kevin, am I getting warmer?


Fractals and the Nature of Truth
August 25, 2012 | By admin | 6 Replies

Steven Paglierani, Guest Writer
Waking Times

So what is a “fractal”? And what do fractals tell us about the nature of truth?

Begin by knowing that a fractal is one of the two kinds of geometry present in our world. And yes, no matter what people say, in our world, there are only two major categories of geometry. Fractal. And other than fractal. Which, to simplify our discussion, we’ll refer to as fractal (non linear) and classical (linear).

Now before proceeding, let’s first define the word, “geometry.” What is “geometry?”

Geometry is the measurement of visual shapes and patterns. Spaces, originally. Moreover, you can know this for yourself by dissembling the word. The “metr” part of the word comes from an old english word which meant “limits” or “boundaries.” Thus the “metr” part tells us what we do with geometry; we measure the limits of something. As in meters, and metrics, and metronomes.

The “geo” part then comes from a word referring to the space in which we live; Earth. Thus, the “geo” part tells us what we’re measuring; we’re measuring the visual patterns of the spaces in our world, as in, “geography” (measures of the visual patterns of earth spaces) and “geology” (logical words about the visual patterns of earth spaces.)

Expanding on these ideas a bit, it might be helpful to know that in ancient Greece, measuring the visual patterns of spaces (geometry) was considered sacred knowledge. A science which the ancient Greeks believed allowed them to peer into the very nature of the spiritual world. Or at least, a way in which they could know there was a spiritual world. And in truth, I am saying very similar things here about fractal geometry. Specifically, that it has sacred qualities, one of them being, that it reveals the underlying structure of natural objects. Or the true visual essence of natural relationships, if this is an easier concept for you to grasp.

As for what makes these two geometries different, know I have spent several decades looking for a way to define fractals. To my surprise, I discovered that we can completely define the essence of these two things using only three qualities. Moreover, two of these qualities are the same for both geometries, while the third is what makes them different. Let’s start with the two qualities which are the same.

The first quality. Both classical geometry and fractal geometry refer to recognizable shapes. This is the first quality. In order for it to be geometry, we humans must be able to recognize these shapes. At least, in theory. And while it might take a bit of work to learn how to do this, this quality must always be present. No recognizable shape. No geometry.

The next quality? Both classical geometry and fractal geometry must refer to recognizable shapes which always repeat. This is the second quality. In theory, all classically geometric shapes can manifest in an infinite amount of ways. So too naturally occurring fractal shapes, which can also manifest in an indefinite variety of ways.

The thing to know here is that when I say, “always repeat,” I am basically referring to that geometric shapes can manifest over and over and over and still not exhaust the possibilities. This potential for repetition is what this second quality refers to. Moreover, it also refers to that in geometry, these repetitions are ongoing. Squares to circles. Waves to water erosion. Cubes to trapezoids. Pendulum swings to mood swings. All these geometric repetitions recreate themselves in endless ways.

Note that it is this second quality which disqualifies as fractal most man made objects, such as couch covers and wall paper. At some point, the detail within these things ends. Whereas, with the nature of something like stock market sales, while humans do initiate these transactions, the resultant cost variations are indeed fractal. Why? Because there is an infinitely detailed nature hidden within these variations, a natural complexity which defies linear analysis. As well as that there are endlessly recurring, recognizable patterns within what appears to be an infinite quantity of detail.

So “always repeat” is the second quality. Then there is the third quality, the one which makes these two geometries differ. What makes these two geometries different?

Classical Geometry refers to “recognizable shapes which always repeat identically,” while Fractal Geometry refers to “recognizable shapes which always repeat differently.” This is the entirety of geometric definition. Simple, really. However, like E=MC2, this very simplicity is what makes it so hard to grasp.

All this said, what exactly makes these two geometries so important to education? Sacred, even?

Their importance lies in that they are the only two ways in which we can truly learn to know and recognize things. Moreover, in order for us to know the nature of anything in our world, we must be able to recognize the visual patterns of relationships present within these things. No visual recognition. No real understanding.

In essence then, both geometries hold the potential to be our teachers. They are, in fact, the essence of being a teacher, regardless of what subject is being taught.

Why this need to be able to visualize a thing’s nature in order to learn what it is? Because all things within our world are made of light. And while much of this light falls outside the range of our natural eye sight, with analog aids (like televisions and radar), we can see all of these visual patterns. Which is why we Emergence Practitioners define “human consciousness” as “the skill of picturing movement.”

Here, “picturing movement” is just a way to refer to that we know things only by measuring light. No coincidence, “picturing movement” is yet one more way to refer to what happens in fractal geometry.

Some would now ask, but what if an oak leaf (which is fractal) were perfectly still. Would this mean it was no longer fractal?

My answer? No. The leaf would still be fractal. Why? Because the thing which enables us to see this leaf is that something in this measurement process must be moving; either us, or the leaf, or both.

What I am saying here is, the movement I have been referring to here is “relative” movement. The very word which defined Einstein’s genius, in fact. This means, whenever we look at a thing, the quality which enables us to see this thing is “movement.”

What I am saying is, either us, or the thing we are looking at, or both, must be moving. No movement. No access to the nature of the thing.

With oak leaves then, if an oak leaf were ever to be perfectly still, and if we could ever keep our eyes perfectly still as well, we would quickly lose our ability to see this leaf. Why? Again, no movement, no vision. No vision, no consciousness. This, in fact, is the nature of the screen of the mind going blank.

In real life, though, everything is always moving in relation to something else, molecules to solar systems. Thus, this stillness never actually occurs. Except in our minds, of course. Moreover, because it does not, it never occurs to us what we would happen if it did occur. Invisibility, to be exact. Again, the blank screen of the mind.

Finally, there is one very important idea you must know in order to access the power of fractal geometry. This idea? That in order to see the truth within things, you must, in some way, be able to picture the visual pattern of movement underlying this thing; peoples’ faces to academic grades; personal psychology to astrophysics. No moving picture. No understanding. Period. No exceptions.

So what about logical understandings? Can’t we logically understand things? Good question. To see the answer, imagine you are visiting a world famous art museum, and as you stand in front of what should be the Mona Lisa, you see only an empty frame with a descriptive plaque beneath it. Now add to this that you are one of the few civilized human beings whom has never seen a visual representation of the Mona Lisa. And that you have been asked to visually describe the Mona Lisa. How well do you think you would do?

The truth is, even if you were to have learned every logical truth about this painting, and about the painter, and about his times, you still would fail miserably. Why? Because even with the myriad of logically true things you could say, given the rest of eternity, you could not know the visual essence of this painting. Why not? Because human consciousness relies entirely on how our minds fill in that frame. Moreover, in order to know the nature of any naturally occurring thing, we must be able to fill in our minds with recognizable patterns of movement.

What I am saying here is, the most beautiful logic in the world is still mere captions to these pictures. Why? Because the very nature of beauty itself is rooted in recognizable visual movements. Including in the Mona Lisa herself. As well as in the nature of each and every human virtue, including the nature of truth.

Herein lies the power and the beauty of fractals. Amazing really. But then, we live in an amazing world, now don’t we?

Warmly,

Steven
About the Author

Steven Paglierani is a writer, teacher, personality theorist and therapist whose work on human consciousness is read weekly by thousands all over the world. He is the author of Emergence Personality Theory, and his mission is to make the world better for children, by restoring and deepening peoples’ love of learning.

He can be read or reached at his site, http://theEmergenceSite.com

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 Post subject: Re: crop circles 2012
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Starduster,
Leylines.
Two seperate but symbiotic geometries involved.
Dimensions involved.
The straight line geometries are imho really really high frequency laser like beams.
They create magnetic flows( think Leedskalnin)
Those flows cross from straight line to straight line always acting under the attraction of least resistance.
Thus You basically have the matrix that supports and enables the infinite fractal variety of creation.

The straight line geometry is fibonacci based, and is nine fold based( nine gods of the underworld)
See zome tools for the geometry that enables multiple dimensions in the self same location.
Youtube 2,3,5 infinity.
You in 3D are what Your 3D senses see in a mirror.
You in 4D I see via dowsing.
Your heart is the centre of Your universe, as is every atoms, every planetys, every star, every galaxy.
As above, so below.

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 Post subject: Re: crop circles 2012
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OK, after reading that - I just had to know so I got up and doused the house - and yes I did find some activity - a lot compared to the other homes that I have lived in (recently) ... and it made me curious about whether or not a digital camera would pick up anything - maybe orbs dancing, so I started taking snaps of all the active spots -

so what the hell is this (in my foyer) :shock:

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I "sharpened" it to the max in photobucket ... looks like a freak'n Portal ... if it was a "string" or a hair on the lens why does it glow at the bottom ... why is there "steam" rising from it, why does it fan out towards the ceiling, why can't you see through it ... why does it look like a tube ... and why is my plant glowing? :mrgreen: it looks like the end of the rainbow - so where is my pot o gold!

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what do you make of it ? The house was completely dark and I was using a flash w/night setting - I probably walked right through it ... 'cause my "optical sensors" didn't pick up anything - but maybe I did, because I looked at the screen (don't usually do that when I am on an "orb hunt" - just snap away at different angles as fast as I can)
I saw it in the "preview" and tried immediately, to get another shot of it ... but it wasn't there (just a couple of seconds later), but I was moving the whole time, and it wasn't the same angle --- this "glitch" wasn't in any of the other thirty pictures I took, and I've taken thousands of pics with this camera and never seen anything like that before

thank's for the inspiration (i think) :lol:
it was my intent - to see evidence of what you call 4D ... with a lens that can detect such things ... I'm pretty convinced (with years of experience taking pictures of orbs and light that I can't see) that the digi-cam can help enhance our limited vision... but the great part about finding new things, is that when you see them, the mind just goes blank - because the "mind" has no way to identify it - so there are no emotional triggers pulled, by just looking, in awe at it - frozen in a picture ... already in the past.

why would it be in my Entrance way ... you would have to step through it every time you entered or left the house

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 Post subject: Re: crop circles 2012
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Starduster,
I have tried to explain many times WHY only certain people SEE such as orbs etc.
We are within a super super complex system that We know little of, and our abilities to better interact within that system are lifting...some more than most.

I know people who can see many different aspects of this whole system , but don't say much because they are ridiculed.
There is nothing to fear, except fear.
The camera is within YOUR personal memory field, and You clearly have a healthy expanded such field that is able to interact in a radio/antennae type manner with what ,with INTENT, You determine to attune to.
You were focussed on better seeing /percieving something outside of our normal collision based senses, most people simply use a camera to record that which their limited senses see.

Well done.
Think about how We SEE????
Think of signals sent out and returning, think of your black zone perhaps as a powerfull flow where those signals are diverted somewhat.
We may enter the zone of the Philidelphia experiment along this route by the way.
There are more things in heaven and Earth than meets the eyes starduster.
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I appreciate your reply CR ... and I agree that our Intent has everything to do with our ability to perceive ... and I do understand about the ridicule some get when they share such things, but I was raised in an (vocally) abusive environment - and learned early not to take what others project at me - personally (especially their knee-jerk reactions to the "unknown" ... These things don't frighten me anymore than they would a scientist that was looking for something under a microscope ... it was an Eureka moment - and there was no fear associated with this discovery ... any more than there was when I discovered the Orbs in my home.

James mentioned in the early materials, that some people would "need" a (medical) device - to help them adapt to the Age of Transparency ... maybe the digi-cam is a fore runner to such a device, and it could be necessary because we have all encased our Pineal Gland in a Calcium cocoon ... I bet your tap water doesn't have Fluoride in it eh? and you probably don't get a lot of chem-trails (they are far more effective in hot dry areas) so your ability to "see" things hasn't been "retarded" during this last phase of this evolutionary cycle - we should all be seeing them - because obviously they are right here ... serving a purpose

I guess the only question I have now, is what purpose do they serve (me) other than to disrupt my cell service ?

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