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A little known fact: Popular ideas about the Sun have not fared well under the tests of a scientific theory. The formulators of the standard Sun model worked with gravity, gas laws, and nuclear fusion. But closer observation of the Sun has shown that electrical and magnetic properties dominate solar behavior.

For centuries, the nature of the Sun's radiance remained a mystery to astronomers. The Sun is the only object in the solar system that produces its own visible light. All others reflect the light of the Sun. What unique trait of the Sun enables it to shine upon the other objects in the solar system?

Today, astronomers assure us that the most fundamental question is answered. The Sun is a thermonuclear furnace. The ball of gas is so large that astronomers envision pressures and densities within its core sufficient to generate temperatures of about 16 million K - producing a continuous "controlled" nuclear reaction.

Most astronomers and astrophysicists investigating the Sun are so convinced of the fusion model that only the rarest among them will countenance challenges to the underlying idea. Standard textbooks and institutional research, complemented by a chorus of scientific and popular media, "ratify" the fusion model of the Sun year after year by ignoring evidence to the contrary.

A growing group of independent researchers, however, insists that the popular idea is incorrect. These researchers say that the Sun is electric. It is a glow discharge fed by galactic currents. And they emphasize that the fusion model anticipated none of the milestone discoveries about the Sun, while the electric model predicts and explains the very observations that posed the greatest quandaries for solar investigation.

More than 60 years ago, Dr. Charles E. R. Bruce, of the Electrical Research Association in England, offered a new perspective on the Sun. An electrical researcher, astronomer, and expert on the effects of lightning, Bruce proposed in 1944 that the Sun's "photosphere has the appearance, the temperature and the spectrum of an electric arc; it has arc characteristics because it is an electric arc, or a large number of arcs in parallel." This discharge characteristic, he claimed, "accounts for the observed granulation of the solar surface." Bruce's model, however, was based on a conventional understanding of atmospheric lightning, allowing him to envision the "electric" Sun without reference to external electric fields.

Years later, a brilliant engineer, Ralph Juergens, inspired by Bruce's work, added a revolutionary possibility. In a series of articles beginning in 1972, Juergens suggested that the Sun is not an electrically isolated body in space, but the most positively charged object in the solar system, the center of a radial electric field. This field, he said, lies within a larger galactic field. With this hypothesis, Juergens became the first to make the theoretical leap to an external power source of the Sun.

Juergens proposed that the Sun is the focus of a "coronal glow discharge" fed by galactic currents. To avoid misunderstanding of this concept, it is essential that we distinguish the complex, electrodynamic glow discharge model of the Sun from a simple electrostatic model that can be easily dismissed. Throughout most of the volume of a glow discharge the plasma is nearly neutral, with almost equal numbers of protons and electrons. In this view, the charge differential at the Earth's distance from the Sun is smaller than our present ability to measure - perhaps one or two electrons per cubic meter. But the charge density is far higher closer to the Sun, and at the solar corona and surface the electric field is of sufficient strength to generate all of the energetic phenomena we observe.

Today, the electrical theorists Wallace Thornhill and Donald Scott urge a critical comparison of the fusion model and the electrical model. Given what we now know about the Sun, which model meets the tests of unity, coherence, simplicity, and predictability? Why did so many discoveries surprise investigators and even contradict the expectations of the fusion model? Is there any fundamental feature of the Sun that contradicts the glow discharge hypothesis?

Our closer looks at the Sun have revealed the pervasive influence of magnetic fields, which are the effect of electric currents. Sunspots, prominences, coronal mass ejections, and a host of other features require ever more complicated guesswork on behalf of the fusion model. But this is the way an anode in a coronal glow discharge behaves!

In the electrical model, the Sun is the "anode" or positively charged body in the electrical exchange, while the "cathode" or negatively charged contributor is not a discrete object, but the invisible "virtual cathode" at the limit of the Sun's coronal discharge. (Coronal discharges can sometimes be seen as a glow surrounding high-voltage transmission wires, where the wire discharges into the surrounding air). This virtual cathode lies far beyond the planets. In the lexicon of astronomy, this is the "heliopause." In electrical terms, it is the cellular sheath or "double layer" separating the plasma cell that surrounds the Sun ("heliosphere") from the enveloping galactic plasma.

In an electric universe, such cellular forms are expected between regions of dissimilar plasma properties. According to the glow discharge model of the Sun, almost the entire voltage difference between the Sun and its galactic environment occurs across the thin boundary sheath of the heliopause. Inside the heliopause there is a weak but constant radial electrical field centered on the Sun. A weak electric field, immeasurable locally with today's instruments but cumulative across the vast volume of space within the heliosphere, is sufficient to power the solar discharge.

The visible component of a coronal glow discharge occurs above the anode, often in layers. The Sun's red chromosphere is part of this discharge. (Unconsciously, it seems, the correct electrical engineering term was applied to the Sun's corona.) Correspondingly, the highest particle energies are not at the photosphere but above it. The electrical theorists see the Sun as a perfect example of this characteristic of glow discharges - a radical contrast to the expected dissipation of energy from the core outward in the fusion model of the Sun.

At about 500 kilometers (310 miles) above the photosphere or visible surface, we find the coldest measurable temperature, about 4400 degrees K. Moving upward, the temperature then rises steadily to about 20,000 degrees K at the top of the chromosphere, some 2200 kilometers (1200 miles) above the Sun's surface. Here it abruptly jumps hundreds of thousands of degrees, then continues slowly rising, eventually reaching 2 million degrees in the corona. Even at a distance of one or two solar diameters, ionized oxygen atoms reach 200 million degrees!

In other words the "reverse temperature gradient," while meeting the tests of the glow discharge model, contradicts every original expectation of the fusion model.

But this is only the first of many enigmas and contradictions facing the fusion hypothesis. As astronomer Fred Hoyle pointed out years ago, with the strong gravity and the mere 5,800-degree temperature at the surface, the Sun's atmosphere should be only a few thousand kilometers thick, according to the "gas laws" astrophysicists typically apply to such bodies. Instead, the atmosphere balloons out to 100,000 kilometers, where it heats up to a million degrees or more. From there, particles accelerate out among the planets in defiance of gravity. Thus the planets, Earth included, could be said to orbit inside the Sun's diffuse atmosphere.

The discovery that blasts of particles escape the Sun at an estimated 400- to 700-kilometers per second came as an uncomfortable surprise for advocates of the nuclear powered model. Certainly, the "pressure" of sunlight cannot explain the acceleration of the solar "wind". In an electrically neutral, gravity-driven universe, particles were not hot enough to escape such massive bodies, which (in the theory) are attractors only. And yet, the particles of the solar wind continue to accelerate past Venus, Earth, and Mars. Since these particles are not miniature "rocket ships," this acceleration is the last thing one should expect!

According to the electric theorists, a weak electric field, focused on the Sun, better explains the acceleration of the charged particles of the solar wind. Electric fields accelerate charged particles. And just as magnetic fields are undeniable witnesses to the presence of electric currents, particle acceleration is a good measure of the strength of an electric field.

A common mistake made by critics of the electric model is to assume that the radial electric field of the Sun should be not only measurable but also strong enough to accelerate electrons toward the Sun at "relativistic" speeds (up to 300,000 kilometers per second). By this argument, we should find electrons not only zipping past our instruments but also creating dramatic displays in Earth's night sky.

But as noted above, in the plasma glow-discharge model the interplanetary electric field will be extremely weak. No instrument placed in space could measure the radial voltage differential across a few tens of meters, any more than it could measure the solar wind acceleration over a few tens of meters. But we can observe the solar wind acceleration over tens of millions of kilometers, confirming that the electric field of the Sun, though imperceptible in terms of volts per meter, is sufficient to sustain a powerful drift current across interplanetary space. Given the massive volume of this space, the implied current is quite sufficient to power the Sun.

Look for more details on the drift current, solar magnetic fields, nuclear reactions, and many other features of the Sun in upcoming Pictures of the Day.

See also these Pictures of the Day -

Arc Lamp in the Sky
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2004/ ... 9solar.htm

Stellar Nurseries
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2004/ ... series.htm

Electric Stars
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2004/ ... -stars.htm

The Iron Sun
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2004/ ... on-sun.htm

Solar Tornadoes
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2004/ ... ornado.htm

Kepler Supernova Remnant
http://www.thunderbolts.info/tpod/2004/ ... ernova.htm


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Thanks for that info Gatemaster, it is great to have your input again...as you know I am a "sun worshiper" and believe that it is the key to our understanding of the Universe... long ignored, he is back with a vengence.

Up until this point I have been leaning towards the "magnetic" school of thinking about the energy of the sun... to me it is part of the "electrical" aspects of this great energy... It became evident to me as I came to recognize that the sun is not "hot"... but the energy is...caused by the friction of protrons, neutrons and electrons in their lively dance on their way through our atmosphere... and also their obvious attraction to our poles...

as we delve deeper into the mysteries of the Sun, more and more scientific theories are biting the dust...(star-dust that is...ha ha which I believe feed the sun), we discover that the sun, appears to have its own agenda, and acts as irrationaly as any other enitiy in the multi-verse...and as we are all witnessing...nothing is "normal" nor can it be taken for granted or ignored any more ... about this increased solar activity.

I trust the sun's role in our evolution...:cool:

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in the article it states ,it is believed that fields of small amounts of magnetic energy, that are difficult to measure drift through space and accumulate at the sun. On this concept I disagree. I have come to the conclusion that powerful streams of magnetic current flows out of the central universe from the creator. These magnetic currents flow in and out of each universe from one to the other. Through all galaxies and solar systems entering each planet at its pole (north for earth) down to its core then bursts out like sun rays heading back into space like a completed circuit. It is these rays of magnetic current coming out from the core of planets that holds the atoms in place. The cool surface of the sun explains how it is possible for people to live on the surface of the sun, while the outer regions are hot. The creator provides all the energy needed to support the creation by this method. The creation is like a large electrical circuit except magnetic. Electricity is a sub component of magnetic current. Magnetic current can flow through wires like electricity. Ever wonder where a magnet gets its energy from? It is estimated that a magnet has a life of approximatly 10,000 years. A magnet is a portal in which magnetic current flows in and out of it. The strength of the magnet indicates how large the portal is and how much magnetic current can flow through it. ;)


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that is an interesting theory...years ago, I read that science had discovered a "power source" that they thought fed the sun...they named it God..ha ha.

Since then I have read a couple of articles that said that the sun was being "fed" by star dust...or the fragmented pieces of exploded stars that drift in waves to the sun. These particles are "magnetically charged?" at the time of the explosion...and when they reach the sun are mass together ... they are attracted to the sunspots...which are believed to be electrically charged, either positively or negatively and create a filiment between the opositely charged spots, which cause an explosion.., resulting in a flare that sends debrie from the suns surface outward into space. The constant explosions create the solar winds...which carry this debrei that has been super charged to the surrounding planets...as these particles reach our atmospher they are again super charged or heated and greatly excited...and depending upon how they are charged head for either the north or south poles...

When we have an overload of activity...I believe happening now, due to the death of Etna Carrina...it disrupts our magnetic balance...shifting the poles...slightly. The constant barage of these particles weaken the magnetic shield that surrounds the earth, allowing for more and more bombardment of the poles...pushing them to a point where they could actually reverse their polarity...

I don't know if this is a correct understanding, but that is how my mind interperets the data...

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it just LOOKs magnetic to me, take this pic for instance...looks like Iron filings...and where DOES that HOLE go?

http://www.spaceweather.com/swpod2005/0 ... inotto.jpg
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there is a HUGE sunspot happening this week...with a possible M-class flare...http://www.spaceweather.com


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here is something else to consider when thinking "electric"...

Gamma Rays From Thunderstorms?

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Duke University engineers have led the most detailed analyses of links between some lightning events and mysterious gamma ray emissions that emanate from earth´s own atmosphere. Their study suggests that this gamma radiation fountains upward from starting points surprisingly low in thunderclouds. Counter-intuitively, these strong gamma outbursts also seem to precede associated lightning discharges by a split second.

"All of this comes as a huge surprise," said Steven Cummer, an assistant professor of electrical and computer engineering at Duke´s Pratt School of Engineering. "These are higher energy gamma rays than come from the sun. And yet here they are coming from the kind of terrestrial thunderstorm that we see here all the time."

Cummer, Pratt School graduate student Wenyi Hu and postdoctoral researcher Yuhu Zhai described their analyses in a paper published online Saturday, April 30 in the journal Geophysical Research Letters. Other co-authors include David Smith of the University of California, Santa Cruz; Liliana Lopez of the University of California, Berkeley; and Mark Stanley of Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico.

The research was funded by the National Science Foundation.

Natural emissions of gamma rays, the most energetic forms of light, are usually triggered only by high-energy events in outer space. Such events include thermonuclear reactions within the sun, interactions between cosmic rays and black-hole-creating star collapses.

But in 1994, scientists using the Compton Gamma Ray Observatory satellite first detected gamma rays seemingly originating near the earth´s surface. And researchers quickly found evidence that those emissions were connected to lightning, Cummer said.

Beginning in 2002, the Reuven Ramaty High Energy Solar Spectroscopic Imager (RHESSI) satellite -- launched to study x-rays and gamma rays from the sun --also began detecting larger numbers of what scientists began terming terrestrial gamma ray flashes (TGFs).

Smith and Lopez were two of the four authors of a February 2005 paper in the journal Science that first described RHESSI-detected TGFs, and also corroborated those with lightning frequency data.

In the new Duke-led study, Cummer and his assistants made what he termed "very careful and continuous recordings" of lightning emissions in a targeted area over a four month period of 2004.

By analyzing those records, they identified lightning episodes they could link in time and place to TGFs recorded by RHESSI in the tropical Caribbean region. "We quantify the lightning-TGF relationship in detail and attempt to constrain the possible source mechanisms," the authors wrote in Geophysical Research Letters.

Cummer´s team analyzed data from two specialized instruments installed in Duke Forest, an outdoor research reserve near the university´s campuses. One of those devices performs sensitive long-range measurements of radio waves in the Very Low Frequency and Extremely Low Frequency bands -- from 50 to 30,000 and 3 to 3,000 hertz (cycles per second) respectively. The other instrument is sensitive to even lower frequencies, ranging from less than 0.1 to 400 hertz.

Cummer originally installed these radio wave detectors to perform long range studies tying Midwestern thunderstorms with the creation of ghostly, brief flashes in the upper atmosphere, known as "sprites."

"RHESSI didn´t detect any TGFs in the Midwestern U.S. where people detect sprites," Cummer said. "But there were a lot of TGFs in Indonesia, Africa and the American Caribbean area. Of those, the Caribbean is 2,000-4,000 kilometers from our sensors -- in the scale of things actually quite close. So we were able to say with very strong certainty whether lightning happened in the Caribbean at a specific time."

Their analysis raised major questions about how well the connection between lightning and gamma rays could be explained by a favored hypothesis known as "runaway breakdown," Cummer said.

Runaway breakdown begins with collisions between extraterrestrial cosmic rays and the atmosphere, which generates a few very high energy electrons. A sufficiently strong electric field can further accelerate these electrons. That can cause additional collisions, producing more high energy electrons until "the whole process avalanches," he said.

Such an electron avalanche in the electrical field immediately following a strong lightning discharge could create a high energy electron beam at altitudes of between 30 and 50 kilometers, according to the hypothesis. That beam would then produce gamma rays as it interacts with the atmosphere.

"If this were the operating mechanism, we should see enormous lightning strokes associated with every one of those TGFs," Cummer said. "But we found that this was unequivocally not the case."

Instead, the lightning strokes his group analyzed were 50-500 times smaller than what should be required to create TGFs by runaway breakdown, according to the Geophysical Research Letters report.

Their report suggested that runaway breakdown at a much lower altitude, created within "strong fields in or just above the thundercloud," could have triggered the TGFs instead. "It still almost certainly has to be runaway breakdown that´s creating these," Cummer said. "The only real possibility is that it´s much closer to the cloud top, and linked to something else happening inside the cloud."

The detailed Duke-led analysis also disclosed that, on average, TGFs occurred 1.24 milliseconds before their associated lightning strokes. "That was something we absolutely were not expecting," Cummer said. "But the coincidence between the lightning and the TGFs we found is too good to be random. So, even if the TGFs precede the lightning, they are in some way connected."

Their paper suggests one possibility for such a negative cause-and-effect relationship. Perhaps "TGFs are produced by a process associated with the development of the observed lightning stroke, but that actually occurs about 1 millisecond before the stroke itself," the authors wrote.

Cummer says his Duke group is now building cheaper and more portable versions of both kinds of low frequency radio detectors. He hopes to someday install those closer to satellite-observed TGF hot spots in the Caribbean region in order to make even more detailed observations.

"We now know where to go, because RHESSI has told us where these things happen," he said

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Interesting article on lightning. I had read that lightning as we see it today is not a natural occurance. Has something to do with the planet being out of it's normal orbit. Lightning is something between electricity and magnetic. It and the use of electricity is the real cause of ozone depletion, might have something to do with those gamma bursts. Many of the sites on free energy that work off the theary of tapping into a limitless magnectic field, seem to be shutting down, I wonder what that is about.
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back to the topic of the Sun...I read this today...actually this article goes against everythiing I SEE... course I moved from Phoenix where the sky is clear 360 days of the year to the East Coast where it is cloudy 300 days of the year, which could "dim" my perspective...what do you think?

I think with all the increased Solar Activity, the sun has actually gotten brighter...white hot as opposed to the "yellow" sun of my childhood... perhaps it has to do with the hole in the Ozone...?



[quote]Published online: 5 May 2005; | doi:10.1038/news050502-8
Clear skies end global dimming
Quirin Schiermeier
Earth´s air is cleaner, but this may worsen the greenhouse effect.


Hello sunshine: cleaner air could make the world warmer.
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Our planet´s air has cleared up in the past decade or two, allowing more sunshine to reach the ground, say two studies in Science this week.

Reductions in industrial emissions in many countries, along with the use of particulate filters for car exhausts and smoke stacks, seem to have reduced the amount of dirt in the atmosphere and made the sky more transparent.

That sounds like very good news. But the researchers say that more solar energy arriving on the ground will also make the surface warmer, and this may add to the problems of global warming. More sunlight will also have knock-on effects on cloud cover, winds, rainfall and air temperature that are difficult to predict.

The results suggest that a downward trend in the amount of sunlight reaching the surface, which has been observed since measurements began in the late 1950s, is now over.

The researchers argue that this trend, commonly called ´global dimming´, reversed more than a decade ago, probably following the collapse of communist economies and the consequent decrease in industrial pollutants.

The widespread brightening has remained unnoticed until now simply because there wasn´t enough data for a statistically significant analysis, says Martin Wild, an atmospheric scientist at the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology in Zurich and an author on one of the reports.

Sunny days

Wild and his team looked at data on surface sunshine levels from hundreds of devices around the planet. They found that since the 1980s there has been a transition from decreasing to increasing solar radiation nearly everywhere, except in heavily polluted areas such as India and at scattered sites in Australia, Africa, and South America1.

A second study, led by Rachel Pinker from the University of Maryland, College Park, found a similar trend by looking at satellite data, although their research suggests the extent of the brightening is smaller2. Unlike ground stations, satellites can sample the whole planet, including the oceans. However, satellite data are difficult to calibrate, and so are considered less accurate than measurements from the ground.

Surprisingly, Wild´s study shows a brightening trend in China, despite the fact that there is a booming, fossil-fuel-intensive industry in that country. Wild says he can only speculate that the use of clean-air technologies in China might be more widespread and efficient than has been thought.

In contrast, India´s vast brown clouds of smog, which result from wildfires and the use of fossil fuels, have reduced the sunlight reaching the ground.

Just warming up


Researchers will now focus on working out the long-term effects of clearer air. One thing they do know is that black particulate matter in the air has been contributing a cooling effect to the ground. "It is clear that the greenhouse effect has been partly masked in the past by air pollution," says Andreas Macke, a meteorologist at the Leibniz Institute of Marine Sciences in Kiel, Germany.

Uncertainties remain part of the game because scientists have only a limited ability to track cloud cover and particulates, says Macke. Increased cooperation in programmes such as the NASA-led International Satellite Cloud Climatology Project should help to close the gaps in our knowledge of how dirty air affects climate, he says





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I think the findings in that research make sense. But I also think that all of this fuss about global warming may not be a problem as it is being suggested. The earth used to be a tropical paradise, planet wide until it was knocked out of it's original orbit. Supposedly the creator will set the earth back to it's original orbit gradually so as not to be too disturbing to life here. I don't know if that has started yet.I thought that I had read some observatories questioning whether the earths position in space seemed to be changing. Or maybe that hasn't started yet and we are still coming out of the last phases of the ice age before we start heading back into one. I know that recently some scientists have stated that they think we are heading back into an iceage and that concern about global warming was unjustified. But who knows who they may represent or if there is some validity to it based on credible research. By the way I like your avatar.


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yes, I agree...all things shall be "restored" in the Grand Circle...only this time, I think we will be more apt to appreciate it...as well as aware of the process... with the ice caps melting, there will be more land available...and what has been overpopulated removed...a general healing of the entire planet...I trust that the Universe is part of the "plan" and that all things are for the GOOD of the species.

I also believe that "being prepared" for what we see is inevitable is KEY to our survival...and that those who ARE prepared and willing to accept and adapt to CHANGE, have the greatest potential for surving the Earth Changes...this time it will not be so much the "survival of the fittest" as much as "survival of the smartest"... which IMO is as it should be...with those open to "new" REVEALations, having a distinct advantage...leading and teaching the next generations to respect the "balance" of our multi-verse and using what we have learned from our "mistakes" to create a better world... perhaps the Utopia of our collective dreams

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btw...did you catch the "glow" of the sun the last couple of days...omg...that mega sunspot is blasting...and even though the CMEs are not earth directed...they are sure to have a "ripple effect" on the entire universe...scroll down and notice the latest sunspot is belching out CMEs too... could see an M before it rotates... sure to heat us up all the way to the core;)

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/rea ... me-c2.html

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incoming... http://www2.nict.go.jp/dk/c232/realtime/

notice how the sun "blinks" off and on with the expulation of CMEs... yet NASA refuses to acknowledge it, telling us it was "not geoeffective" or earth directed...while the magometer tells a different story....here:

http://www.lmsal.com/solarsoft/latest_events/

check out the protrons... here: http://www.n3kl.org/sun/noaa.html

I've seen it a lot worse, but never so blatenly ignored...solar wind speeds up from approx 400km/s to 900km/s +...all "blamed" on the huge CH.

and the iceing on the cake.... GRBs...SEVEN of them active as we speak...just look here http://grb.sonoma.edu/index.php


believe who and what you will folks...but the data speaks loud and clear IMO

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SOLAR MINIMUM ..... ( yeah, right!) ... :P


http://umbra.nascom.nasa.gov/eit/images ... it_284.gif?

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ho ho...the sun is cooking today...M8.6 is very close to X...and this sunspot is front and center, making this flare, geo-effective and earth directed...

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/rea ... 722_c2.gif

I have been watching the "wobble" as CMEs rock the boat this week...as well as the magnetic shield...it was almost breched this week already... this could be the "pole shift" ... or not...but at any rate...tomorrow will not be a good day to 'sunbathe"...lol

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here come the protons;...to heat up the magma on their way to the core...

http://www.n3kl.org/sun/images/noaa_proton_G8_3d.gif?

while you are at it...check out this data...and note the big gaps...were the satilites knocked off line...or is there some "secret"... NASA doesn't want us to know... time will tell...http://www.lmsal.com/solarsoft/latest_events/

stay out of the sun today...unless you want your brain to look like swiss cheese as the protons travel right through flesh...(what a visual eh?}you could always wear a tin foil helment...ha ha

the "shield" has cooled considerably but check out the "notch" at 13:55 and look how "shattered" the pos and neg particles from the incoming CMEs are... if you are feeling a little confused...here your "cause".

http://www.lmsal.com/solarsoft/latest_events/

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AURORA ALERT: A coronal mass ejection (CME) is heading toward Earth. It was hurled into space on May 13th (1650 UT) by an M8-class explosion near sunspot 759. Sky watchers should be alert for auroras when the cloud arrives, probably after nightfall on Saturday, May 14th.

http://www.spaceweather.com/index.html

here is a great shot of a full halo mass ejection...note the CME (cloud) is projecting from around the entire sun sphere...

http://sohowww.nascom.nasa.gov/data/rea ... 742_c3.gif

note also the Pleadies at 11: o'clock ;)

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May 13, 2005

Massive Pressure Builds upon North American Plate as Continued
Bombardment of Earth´s Atmosphere by Cosmic Blasts Shake Worlds Weather
Systems

By: Sorcha Faal, and as reported to her Russian Subscribers

Russian Scientists are reporting today an enormous buildup of pressure
is now occurring upon the North American Plate at its meeting place with
European Plates in the Northern Atlantic Ocean Regions around Iceland.

In our March 6th report titled "Arctic Circle Earthquakes Begins North
American Continent Instability, Greater Earthquakes Sure to Follow" we
had warned about these events by stating; "And now today as we are
evidencing these events, not to the ´stability´, but rather to the
´instability´ of the entire Eastern Seaboard Regions of the areas of
Canada, the United States and the Caribbean Sea are we concerned about.
Of concern to Russian researchers has also been that the United States
Geological Service´s Quaternary Faults Maps for the Eastern Regions of
this country are non-existent, so no further estimations can be made as
to the immediate future course of these events.

However, if these Northern Hemisphere events are indeed mirroring those
of the Southern Hemispheres experience in December, 2004 (where an
arctic pole (north or south) earthquake event precedes a much larger
boundary plate event) a much larger event for this troubled region may
be imminent."

The pounding of the earth´s atmosphere by the unrelenting blasts of
massive energy surges hitting our planet, and as we have previously
reported on in reports such as "Unknown Energy Surges Continue to Hit
Planet, Global Weather Systems in Chaos", are also contributing to this
danger as large electrical charges are also known to cause earthquake
activity, and as we can read as reported by the Guardian News Service in
their article titled "Sparks that signal the shock" and which says;

"In 1991, a group of American scientists were investigating how natural
background noise interferes with satellite communication. A detector in
Corralitos indicated ultra low frequency radio noise more than 20 times
stronger than usual. It looked like an equipment fault and the signal
disappeared. A few hours later an earthquake struck less than five miles
away. Not all earthquakes seem to produce precursor signals, so they are
unreliable as a means of earthquake prediction.

When they do occur they can cause spectacular effects, described by one
Japanese researcher as Alice In Wonderland syndrome. Before the Kobe
earthquake, there were reports of U-shaped candle flames, clocks whose
second hands suddenly went around very quickly or stopped, swarming
earthworms and schools of fish aligning themselves in the same
direction. Such stories were once dismissed as folk myths, but
researchers at the quantum geophysics laboratory in Osaka found they
could all be duplicated using electrical equipment. There is also a long
history of stories of earthquake lights. These range from glowing
fireballs popping out of the ground to a diffuse sparkling in the sky.

There is no accepted explanation, but they are thought to be related to
St Elmo´s fire, the glowing ionisation sometimes seen on ships´ masts in
stormy conditions. This is caused by a strong electric field in the air,
which Japanese researchers believe may be associated with the precursor
signal. The Soviets set out to map the conductivity of the earth´s
crust in an area of seismic activity in Tajikistan. Their experiments,
carried out in the 1970s, involved firing massive charges of electricity
into the earth. There were tremors but nobody paid much attention. In
1993, Nikolai Tarasov of the institute of earth physics in Moscow
analysed data from the trials and found something remarkable.

The electromagnetic pulses from the experiment were followed by tremors,
each one releasing up to a million times as much energy as the pulse
that preceded it. Tarasov went on to look at the results of similar
experiments carried out at Tien Shan in the 1980s, and found that
two-thirds were also followed by tremors. Tarasov is now part of a team
being funded by the EU to investigate how electricity can cause
earthquakes."

The American Harvard University´s Dr. Bridget Samuels in her research
report titled "Quake Science: Advances in Earthquake Prediction", has
also said about Dr. Tarasovre´s research, "Nikolai Tarasovre-analyzed
the available data from these tests in 1993 and discovered a striking
correlation between the induced charges and the earthquakes that
followed. About two thirds of the electromagnetic pulses were followed
by earthquakes, some releasing up to a million times as much energy as
had been applied during the preceding experiment. This may be because
the electricity heated the groundwater and thus increased its pressure,
triggering instability (as is known to have occurred in the Rocky
Mountain waste disposal site during the 1960´s), or it may be
explain-able by the piezoelectric effect..."

Further effects of these earthquake charges are their being able to
overwhelm electrical power plants, transformers and wires, and as
reports from North America are showing us today an alarming increase of
localized electrical power outages has indeed been occurring, and as we
can see from this sampling of the over 500 example headlines about these
events from this region over the past 2 weeks:

May 13th: "Power Plant Explosion in Texas" May 12th: "PSNH trying to
determine what caused city blackout" May 4th: "Massive Power Outage in
Hartford" May 7th: "Virginia power outage a mystery" May 8th:
"Equipment failure causes east-side power outage" May 5th: "Power outage
hits Toronto" May 7th: "Power outage zaps part of Bozeman" May 12th:
"Thousands lose power in South Carolina; exact cause unknown"

But to the worlds perplexity these Westerns continue to ignore all of
these things, including the warnings of their own scientists, and as we
can read as reported by the United States Space Agency NASA in their
report titled "Scientists Confirm Earth´s Energy Is Out of Balance" and
which says, "Scientists have concluded more energy is being absorbed
from the sun than is emitted back to space, throwing the Earth´s energy
"out of balance" and warming the globe. Scientists from NASA, Columbia
University, New York, and Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory,
Berkeley, Calif. used satellites, data from buoys and computer models to
study the Earth´s oceans. They confirmed the energy imbalance by using
precise measurements of increasing ocean heat content over the past 10
years."

Not even do these Westerns need their scientists reports as just their
observance of their own weather systems gone insane should provide
enough warning to them. But in madness turned into farce, at the exact
point in their history where they need vital and accurate weather
information, they are allowing their Military Leaders to actually censor
the weather information they are able to receive, and as we can read as
reported by the Sun-Gazette News Service in their article titled
"Santorum curiously moves to legislate weather info" and which says;

"A bill in Washington D.C. would restrict what information the National
Weather Service provides to the public. Under the proposed legislation,
the service would be allowed to offer particular types of services only
if the private sector does not offer them."

To the Darwinian mindset of these Westerners, where nothing is connected
and everything is separate, perhaps nothing should surprise us anymore
about them as just this week their Military Leaders enacted the most
draconian National ID Laws in the world towards a free people, and
instead of the Americans themselves protesting about the complete loss
of their freedoms the Mexicans are doing it for them, and as we can read
as reported by the Associated Press News Service in their article titled
"Mexico Says It Will Protest New U.S. Laws" and which says;

"President Vicente Fox said Thursday his government will formally
protest recent U.S. immigration reforms, including the decision to
extend walls along the border and make it harder for illegal migrants to
get driver´s licenses. Fox didn´t give details of Mexico´s plan, but
officials in his administration have raised the possibility of taking
their case to the United Nations or other international organizations."

But as we Russians know well, these barriers to movement of peoples are
never meant to keep peoples out, but rather to keep them in, and as we
can read from this report from the Washington Times News Service titled
"Border Patrol told to stand down in Arizona", the Mexican President has
nothing to really fear, "U.S. Border Patrol agents have been ordered not
to arrest illegal aliens along the section of the Arizona border where
protesters patrolled last month because an increase in apprehensions
there would prove the effectiveness of Minuteman volunteers, The
Washington Times has learned."

In a future time, and when the history of these Americans is being
written, the greatest debate will undoubtedly be whether that history
book will be a tragedy or a comedy.

© May 13, 2005, EU and US all rights reserved.
http://www.whatdoesitmean.com/index739.htm

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woo hoo... the CME has arrived as witnessed by the charts provided here:

http://www.lmsal.com/solarsoft/latest_events/

I have seen them higher and more color-full...but not with so many "gaps" and huge spikes in either direction...which may account for an eratic reaction in our Human Instrument... ;)


as seen here a HUGE polarity is taking place...and I have never seen such a gap or the "pressure" on the magnetic field GREATER!

http://www2.nict.go.jp/dk/c232/realtime/

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[img]http://www2.nict.go.jp/dk/c232/realtime/images/test_1.20050515041955.jpg[/img]

scroll down to see how the "heat" is building up to possibly create a "snap" if they were to come together behind us...and that event COULD ignite our entire atmosphere!

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[img]http://www2.nict.go.jp/dk/c232/realtime/images/test_6.20050515060038.jpg[/img]

note the "vibrations"... this is spectacular!

[Edited on 15-5-2005 by starduster]

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neutrons are spiking also... http://helios.izmiran.rssi.ru/cosray/indices.htm

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G5 Geomagnetic Storm

Power systems: : widespread voltage control problems and protective system problems can occur, some grid systems may experience complete collapse or blackouts. Transformers may experience damage.

Spacecraft operations: may experience extensive surface charging, problems with orientation, uplink/downlink and tracking satellites.

Other systems: pipeline currents can reach hundreds of amps, HF (high frequency) radio propagation may be impossible in many areas for one to two days, satellite navigation may be degraded for days, low-frequency radio navigation can be out for hours, and aurora has been seen as low as Florida and southern Texas (typically 40° geomagnetic lat.)**.


http://www.sec.noaa.gov/NOAAscales/

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:Product: SEC Space Weather Alerts ALTS.txt
:Issued: 2005 May 15 1630 UTC
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# SEC Space Weather Alerts Issued in the last 24 hours
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Space Weather Message Code: ALTK07
Serial Number: 73
Issue Time: 2005 May 15 1009 UTC

ALERT: Geomagnetic K-index of 7
Threshold Reached: 2005 May 15 1009 UTC
Synoptic Period: 0900-1200 UTC
Station: Boulder
Active Warning: [b]Yes[/b]
NOAA Scale: G3 - [b]Strong[/b]
http://www.sec.noaa.gov/ftpdir/forecasts/ALTS.txt

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The dangerous Proton levels have been rising ever since the flare and are now over 10,000 times normal!-

http://www.sec.noaa.gov/today.html

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G 5
Extreme Magnetic Storm:

Power systems: : widespread voltage control problems and protective system problems can occur, some grid systems may experience complete collapse or blackouts. Transformers may experience damage.

Spacecraft operations: may experience extensive surface charging, problems with orientation, uplink/downlink and tracking satellites.

Other systems: pipeline currents can reach hundreds of amps, HF (high frequency) radio propagation may be impossible in many areas for one to two days, satellite navigation may be degraded for days, low-frequency radio navigation can be out for hours, and aurora has been seen as low as Florida and southern Texas (typically 40° geomagnetic lat.)**.


This is weird as even with a positive z-component we have the next Kp-index of 8!
http://www.sec.noaa.gov/alerts/k-index.html

z component was around +20 for the last 3 hours:
http://www.sec.noaa.gov/ace/MAG_SWEPAM_ ... AM_6h.html

click on the magnetic field variation:

http://forecast.izmiran.rssi.ru/

I thought this was coming down...from 9 to 8 on the chart from 1-10 but it appears we are about to be hit by another blast...or so they say

also find it unusual that the "simulation" has not been updated all day (since 6 GMT.)

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This is a HISTORICAL day, something to tell the grandkids about...
think you are not being affected...wait a couple of days...and watch the EQ activity and the Volcanic reactions...when the protons heat up magma...on their way to the core...think the ice caps are melting rapidly...just wait til all this superheated cosmic dust, drawn magneticaly to them starts working.

here is the latest

well here you see the total wave impact:

http://forecast.izmiran.rssi.ru/md_nowe.html

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2:57 pm EDT Re: G5 magnetic storm max scale!!!

PRESTO FROM SIDC - RWC BELGIUM Sun May 15 2005, 1304 UT
The geomagnetic storm which started this night is still in progress on minor/major storm level. NOAA´s estimated Kp indices for today are 5,5,9,8; Izmiran recorded 5,6,8,5; Dourbes recorded 6,5,7,5. This is probably due to the recent halo CME which erupted on 13 May from the center of the disk. CACTus had measured a projected speed of approximately 600 km/s. Due to the early arrival of the CME (+/- 32 hrs after eruption) its real travelling speed must be estimated close to 1200 km/s. Early this morning the solar wind speed jumped from 450 to 900 km/s and Bz turned very strongly southward to a Bz value of -40 nT. This caused a major to severe geomagnetic storm. Later, the Bz turned positive, but the total magnetic field strength remains strong (near 50 nT). We therefor expect the perturbed geomagnetic conditions to continue for the rest of the day on active to minor storm level. The 10 MeV proton flux just turned below the event threshold at the time of this writing. Old cat! ania sunspot group 60 (NOAA 0758) is still producing flaring activity. One of the prominences close to this active region therefor could erupt. This enhances the chance for another proton event. Catania sunspot group 61 (NOAA 0759) remains capable of producing more strong flares.

http://sidc.oma.be/index.php3

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