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LTF - Many thanks for your thought provoking personal insight. I just opened the new WM homepage and was immediately transfixed by the beautiful Transparent Woman image - so definitely more to follow.

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[img]http://www.wingmakers.com/images/pagegraphics/transparentwoman.jpg[/img][img]http://www.wingmakers.com/images/wherethesoulflies.jpg[/img]
[img]http://www.wingmakers.com/images/infinity.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.wingmakers.com/images/pagegraphics/whitepg/infinitysymbol.jpg[/img]

[img]http://wingmakers.com/images/quintessenceformula.jpg[/img]

[b]651302[/b]

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Did you notice how the chakra points light up and fade on that picture?
There are also some other subtle lines of movement.

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Hi LTF :) Yup, the energy centers pulsate from yellow to red. There are two chakras in the heart area but no third eye chakra. The entire heart area glows and pulsates as if beating. There also seems to be a connection from this beautiful 'transparent woman' image to the 'quintessence formula' image through the infinity symbols. If you look closely, the quintessence image has a series of numbers just under the infinity symbol. Perhaps 651302?

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I don't see the numbers. But i'm nearsighted.

Is there a significance about the numbers for you?

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The numbers are clearer at the top of the WM products page:

[url]http://www.wingmakers.com/products.html[/url]

Perhaps the numbers correspond to an encoded formula also represented in the Senzar ideographs that run across the Quintessence image. And perhaps the entire Quintessence image represents the soul in the Wholeness Navigator. According to James in answer 34 of the third interview, the following character in Chamber 24 represents the Wholeness Navigator:

[img]http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/imagenes_wingmakers/xglyphbar.jpg[/img]

[Edited on 26-11-2005 by espritducoeur]

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Thank you for your personal insights ladies! What is presented to us on this website goes way beyond only one persons interpretation , it consists of many and for good reason. It takes care of the age old problem of all dictators, totalitarians, kings etc.(I think you get my drift):).And... it allows each of us to open up the treasure drove we each harbour and give our piece to the gigantic puzzle. . We ALL have a piece to the puzzle, we all contribute to the intricately woven tapestry. And to this espridocoeur I thank you and LTF I thank you too ! Perhaps, having the confidence to do this like you are espridocoeur is part of the new preception that is based on personal insight instead of the old established ways of empiricism and reliance on externals for approval. What you have done here is refreshing to see. Thank you.

[Edited on 6-12-2005 by Shayalana]

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Thank you, my dear Shaylana. I certainly don't claim to be an art critic, but it seems apparent that the paintings and other images on the WM site, CD's, etc. are teeming with coded symbols and representations that could well signify the Mother. 3-D has been far too busy lately for me to delve further - but soon I hope :)

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Location: Homer, Alaska---The journey is the destination.
Pregnant expectation of the next discovery in and of creation. ;)

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hummm, I never thought of this as a "woman" but the Spirit Entity

and equated "her" to this picture...

[img]http://www.wingmakers.com/reproductions/hirez/chamber12hr.jpg[/img]

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note the chaukras are pictured on the "light body" and not the fleshy one... in both of these paintings...

[img]http://www.wingmakers.com/reproductions/hirez/chamber6hr.jpg[/img]

another thing I find fascinating about the paintings is that you can zoom in to your hearts content...without distorting the quality... there is so much to see in the paintings.

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[img]http://www.wingmakers.com/reproductions/hirez/chamber12hr.jpg[/img]

The figures in Chamber 12 are that of the Father's light body on the left and the Mother's light body (red figure) on the right. The fragmenting deaccelerated soul/entity is above, connected to the Father's crown chakra and the Mother's Heart. This process takes place before conception, shortly after sexual intercourse, which produces the electromagnetic energy necessary for the entity to begin its journey into form.


Prior to this, Chamber 11 represents the soul entity with spiritual DNA arriving via a life carrier:

[img]http://www.wingmakers.com/reproductions/hirez/chamber11hr.jpg[/img]


Chamber 6 represents the fertilized ovum in the Mother's womb protected by her Higher Self:

[img]http://www.wingmakers.com/reproductions/hirez/chamber6hr.jpg[/img]



[Edited on 21-12-2005 by espritducoeur]

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The Triangle with a circle in it is -Omega Manifested. The beings represent,Gravity Polarity over Celestial Energy/Earth. Its center is water element/Tri flow. Corner/infinity swept away. Layers of Earth,Realms. Center/Cosmic Egg symbol/appears to be more of The Conch of Buddha. Swirling line with dots,looks to be a Bead work patterns,could be decorative design between the two. The Owl split,could be two different Tropics,as in Capricorn and Cancer. Having to do with Trade Winds. Triangle also has a look from something in the Ruins of Four Mile Ruin. (Chamber 12 ) The line in triangle could be Cosmic Duality invoked. Earths Consciousness is directing the Cosmic Eyes Collective towards The Ayin symbol. Magical Flight (Chamber 11 ) could be a Thunder Head.


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(Chamber 6 ) She is standing in her Element,she is surrounded by her element. Her Infinite wisdom comes from the Hoop. Her soil is her blood,she is bond to it,she is exposed to the Elements. Her children,she doesnt know who there Father well be. She is dreaming of them,Male figure-face and Mask are the Womb. She is able to Hear her Ancestors,she is a Channel. Two hoops are whole,she is awaiting for The arrival of August. They are Stars,many stars,She is waiting for a sound-a Message of there arrival-she hasnt found the Father. She is a dreamer,she awaits the Celestial,The center of the circles isnt the Sun,its the Harvest Moon. She is standing on a Blue Moon, the Crescent is her cycle. The shape of her clothing is of a Bell, It has a India,asian designs. She has already had a Vision of a Daughter. The Cornucopia,is a sacred symbol,on going fertility of the earth. The language of Light,Protection symbols. Pillars/beleif in Many Gods,heros. Matrilineal Society. The Mask is a Gorgon Head/Crone. Postvorta/Antevorta, Mother of Time, ruling The Celestial Hinge at the back of The North Wind, around witch the universe revolved at the Transitional Gate of Midwinter. Archaic female spirit of Janurary. ( Kore,Pluto,Persephone)


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zoa - many thanks for your input. :)

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espirt where are you sister, so near yet, seemingly so far?


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Hey Shay & Russ,


I've been away for awhile immersed in several overwhelming 3-D happenings. Have missed you all so very much.

Russ, the puzzle is definitely not complete, but I haven't had the time or inclination to delve into the WMM these past months. I still feel that the Chamber paintings represent (at least for me) the journey of the incarnating soul from preconception to birth, and also the connection to the fetus in utero. So definitely more to follow.

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espritducoeur! So very happy to hear from you. I understand what you are saying and can appreciate it too. Do you care to share some of your experiences if only in a U2. I do have something to share with you... if you are interested... :)

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"An invitation to vastness" uses a symbol, ancient, and it depicts the ancient Goddess in particular. The nature of this universe is feminine.

"When the Wholeness Navigator
dreams of reunion to its source
within the dimensional body
the true awakening begins
This awakening is for the anointed
who desire nothing more
than the invitation to vastness."

from the "Invitation To Vastness"

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[Edited on 23-5-2006 by Shayalana]

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[img]http://www.wingmakers.com/reproductions/hirez/chamber13hr.jpg[/img]

[img]http://www.wingmakers.com/images/lifecarriers.jpg[/img]

[quote]Energetic Heart - Page 5

This is why the heart develops in the fetus before the brain; it literally informs the life force of the human instrument, preparing it to receive the soul consciousness. [b]When the soul moves within the fetus or infant (it can do both, depending on circumstances I won’t attempt to explain here), it moves through this channel forged by the heart.[/b] It establishes this connection with Source Intelligence—essentially from heart to soul to Spirit to First Source.[/quote]

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[img]http://www.wingmakers.com/images/habitatofsoul.jpg[/img]

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[img]http://www.wingmakers.com/reproductions/hirez/chamber3hr.jpg[/img]

[img=750x500]http://www.wingmakers.com/downloads/habitatofsoul.jpg[/img]
[b]Habitat of the Soul[/b]

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esprit, it is real interesting viewing your thread but it is the oddest thing that really caught my attention. Your lovely purple tetrahedron was twirling normally and then when i looked again it was twirling madly and then when i looked again it had stopped entirely. i looked again and then it was back to normal. Interesting for the variations.

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This is why the heart develops in the fetus before the brain; it literally informs the life force of the human instrument, preparing it to receive the soul consciousness. When the soul moves within the fetus or infant (it can do both, depending on circumstances I won't attempt to explain here), it moves through this channel forged by the heart. It establishes this connection with Source Intelligence essentially from heart to soul to Spirit to First Source."

So what this is saying is that Source Intelligence is the 'medium' which is used as the connecting force of the heart, soul, spirit to First Source. Interesting, when it is looked at from an energetic perspective which allows for explanations from quantum physics(in terms of nonlocality for example), it makes for easier understanding. This takes it out of the nebulousness of abstract theory and gives us something we can actually deal with practically.

[Edited on 26-8-2006 by Shayalana]

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esprit where are you dear sister?:o

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