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 Post subject: Re: Jesus - The leader of The LTO
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yes, well said Shay, It is very interesting, when you examine it ... how intertwined the Hierarchies are, how Religion becomes Culture as families become communities that pray together, which turns into local Politics and eventually brings you to Science (facts)... Notice how we are educated to "look in a book" ... and to seek only these accredited "sources" and to ignore any answer coming from within. Religion, unfortunately trains us to be slaves ... and it is considered "scripure" by the 3 most influential Religions on the Earth (Christians, Jews, and Islam... spanning nations and continents and in the secret name of Anu they genocide nations ... murder to get gain and as we have discovered in this age of transparency - worse.

and it is somewhat confusing, when the WMMs talk about Jesus being the "Leader of the LTO" in certain phases of the plan ... and a lot of people believe that Jesus is God (like the Pope) ... incarnate ... so it is not an easy knot to untangle ... especially when it is tied tightly to our emotions ...

you can spend years trying to unsnarl things or just get out the scissors and with a hardy "NO MORE !" start whacking away :D

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 Post subject: Re: Jesus - The leader of The LTO
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I am aware of the whole GSSC with Anu etc. etc. Project Camelot Interview 101 covers that ! :wink:

Consider the following quote from the project Camelot Interview :

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First Source is not God, not as human beings understand what God is. God, as an entity,
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With that statement it is clear that God(Source) interdependent on you and me does exist . It is capable because of it's(our) threefold nature . The very Nature(Reality) that Anu distorted and used as a tool of seperation and enslavement . Yet without that type of Matrix Unity has no meaning or context . Our goals or experiences we are here to achieve or live would have no substance without the seperation membrane of the GSSC . I doubt very seriously that this GSSC is new to the Super Universes or that Anu was the first to implement such a reality for that matter .


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 Post subject: Re: Jesus - The leader of The LTO
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James also talks about being ready to drop the old concepts and make ready for new ones because the new ones don't have the associations and distorted meanings like the old ones. There is a big difference in associations and meaning when you say First Source instead of God, you have no past with First Source and for the Sovereign Integral it pretty well stands on its own for how incomparable to anything else it is. I like the newer concepts for how in the moment they keep you as well since there is no past to go back too in comparison.This is the nature of using words they are normally used in comparison to something familiar as your mind analysizes what you are presented with and another reason to really hone using Heart Intelligence instead, its too quick for words and it is too big for them. Just think of the silence that would mean. :wink:

(It's in the 3rd Interview with James that words and concepts new and old is discussed)

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 Post subject: Re: Jesus - The leader of The LTO
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Anu and his cohorts invention of the HMS was to blind us to the Whole which we are intrinsically and which has no use for separation but separation cannot be what it is if there is no Wholeness. Thus , the need for deception for so many to fall for separation until they eventually think it is natural and intrinsic with nary a thought about Wholeness. Perhaps, the original concept of separation was very different than what we experience with the HMS. The Universe is old beyond our conception in these HMS minds and it could very well be that the advent of the HMS is relatively young. The big mystery is where did they come from originally those who are so low frequency and warring and controlling when most in this Universe had no idea about those things which made them very vulnerable and easy to deceive. Think of all that we don't know about this , its great . I wonder if when we are more heart centered and making full use of Heart Intelligence again how much more we will know and in a very different way than we have become accustomed to in these HMS minds. I love knowing that the Six Heart Virtues and their practice are not within the confines of the HMS and neither is the Energetic Heart . :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Jesus - The leader of The LTO
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I believe, we understood "separation" as Independence which was something we needed to experience ourselves, as individuals and not automatrons ... with a hive mind ... once we recognize and realize our Sovereignty, it doesn't serve a purpose anymore ... so we de-fragment our consciousness (snicker)

It is precisely this sense of independence that the birth of the entity begets. It is the central part of the blueprint of exploration because without this sense of independence, exploration of the cosmos and its various fields of vibration would be limited to the perception of First Source, peering through the lens of Source Intelligence. By definition it is a single dimensional perception, and therefore, an incomplete exploration.

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Contrary to your religious instructions, there is no accompanying punishment that follows the state of independence. The entity is not punished for its choice of explorations, otherwise the state of independence would be impossible to achieve. It is only through this state of independence or freewill that the entity can achieve a unique perspective. If the boundaries were prescribed too narrowly, and the entity was punished or allowed to accumulate sin each time it strayed, it would become more of an automaton than an explorer.

Without authentic exploration within the worlds of creation, the value of the experience for both the entity and First Source is greatly diminished.
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 Post subject: Re: Jesus - The leader of The LTO
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I like to use the terms that James suggests we use now. The entity star is talking about is now called the Quantum Presence. The Quantum Presence is that specifically because of its purpose for exploration its the reason why there are so many of us , individuated yet, intricately interconnected with each other and all to First Source through our Energetic Hearts. It's so brilliant and awe inspiring. The HMS is an add-on and like a virus it grows and multilayers the the entire system if it can and to the degree one isn't aware of being a Sovereign Integral. We are that first and foremost and because the Energetic Heart and practise of the Six Heart Virtues is outside of the realms of the HMS we are in the process of constructing a bridge over the troubled waters of the HMS from the Energetic Heart to the Sovereign Integral. And as star suggests so aptly the HMS is de-fragmented in the process. :D

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Listening is another form of seeing.

What is invisible is Source, and yet it is before you.

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First Source cannot be communicated as an entity, an interaction, or a modality.

Source cannot be communicated.

Period.

Source can be experienced.

Source is Symphony in every moment of time. Source is not an entity—IT is a Symphony of intelligent vibration.

To experience Source, you have to tap into that Symphony.

In every effort you make to reach into the deeper structures and flows of your Spiritual Center, you move closer to the Living Presence of Source.

Animosity is a signpost away from Source.

Oneness, unity, and wholeness is the SI.....

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 Post subject: Re: Jesus - The leader of The LTO
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It's interesting to contemplate that we were already experiencing a degree of separation from First Source long before the HMS and it was because of how much we had forgotten about our connection to FS that it left us open and vulnerable to being deceived into having the HMS. The HMS only accelerated the illusion of distance from our Source if not purposely trying to make us forever forget it our connection to it and displacing where the connection takes place. And that our purpose was for exploration and to send what we discovered back to First Source , from our first moment in realizing our separation,it was way before the HMS.

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Tide has turned ...Jesus is the leader and despite those who wish to keep this a private club a coalition of many diverse Beings .. has been established ... the foundation has been poured... and Wing Maker Unity is coming into fruition.....now just a question of what happens with the those .....and yes Shay....I most definitely am referring to you here.........am hearing ....let her be ........enough room for all who do love the Work.....even those who do not understand what is behind the words...........the other side of Compassion......am seeing how relating with you gives me the opportunity to stretch my Wings....and for this I thank you Debra dear.


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Jesus, the son of God, aka Anmael, the son of Anu.

Get real.

You are a Sovereign Integral.

There is no son, father, daughter or mother.

Brothers & sisters we are.

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In the DP book Anmael is the first born son of Anu.

The signpost which points to the connection between human mythology and Lyricus stroytelling requires some effort to see, a study requiring some detective work.

*'Anmeal' is a name which can be found in 'A Dictionary of Angels' in a 'fallen angel' list.


DPBook Page 473 » Anmael ran his finger through the hologram before him. He was the eldest son of Anu who was the king…


* http://www.archangels-and-angels.com/mi ... ngesl.html

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Dzala.

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In the DP book Anmael is the first born son of Anu.

The signpost which points to the connection between human mythology and Lyricus stroytelling requires some effort to see, a study requiring some detective work.

*'Anmeal' is a name which can be found in 'A Dictionary of Angels' in a 'fallen angel' list.


DPBook Page 473 » Anmael ran his finger through the hologram before him. He was the eldest son of Anu who was the king…


* http://www.archangels-and-angels.com/mi ... ngesl.html


BILL HAS NOT NOT NOT READ THE DOHRMAN PROPHECY SO HAS NO CONTEXT OF THE STORY TO USE SO IS LIKE ONE OF THOSE GUYS IN THE DARK ROOM FEELING ONLY A PART OF THE ELEPHANT. HE HAS ALREADY MADE IT CLEAR HE HAS NO INTENTION OF READING TDP "ANYTIME SOON". DON'T BE FOOLED BY HIM EITHER BECAUSE HE READS WHAT OTHER WRITE ABOUT THE TDP AND THINKS IT WILL FOOL OTHERS INTO THINKING HE'S READ ALL OF IT THUS THE CONFUSION BY WHAT HE SAYS THAT IS OUT OF CONTEXT, AND/OR NOTHING TO DO WITH THE STORY OR WHAT HE WANTS YOU TO BELIEVE IS CONNECTED TO THE STORY BECAUSE HE PREFERS YOU BELIEVE HIS STORY INSTEAD.

WHY ARE YOU REALLY HERE BILL WE ALREADY KNOW ITS NOT TO DISCUSS THE WMM SINCE YOU DON'T READ LET ALONE STUDY THEM? HE SURE LIKE TO DISCUSS THE PERSONALITIES OF THE MEMBERS ANYTHING BUT THE WMM WHICH HE HASN'T STUDIED OR READ.

THIS APPLIES TO THE REST OF THE WMM FOR BILL AS WELL.



THIS IS WHERE BILL GETS MANU FROM:

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OR FROM A SCRATCH ART PIC SIMILAR TO THIS ONE...SOMEHOW :shock:

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Dzala.

Language is futile.

Feelings are the antidote of limitation and calamity is a byproduct of equality.

Nothing is wrong and right.

IT is all.

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