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 Post subject: Re: Emanate
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oh, that is a good one seed...

If I were to be making a point - with this particular quote, it would be to point out how it strongly suggests (bolded words) that personal experience (being activated) is required before one could "express" the Identity of a Sovereign Integral ... activation is the first step in the transformation ... and that that specific level of consciousness requires a new way of thinking about one's identity ...

and I might also mention, the WMMs is the ONLY place you will find the concept of being a Sovereign Integral, introduced into the MEST... even though "transformation" is drug around all over the web, it is never suggested that we transform our identity into that of a Sovereign Integral anywhere else.

"The source of spiritual activism is not of the mind. Therefore, it requires a new way of thinking about one’s identity. This is the first step in the method of spiritual activism: Living in the identity of the Sovereign Integral consciousness.

The word- concept “Sovereign Integral” is encoded, unifying the two aspects of the One Being: Sovereign and individuated, and integral as One. We are both sovereign and unique expressions of the one, unified Being.

Words are simply words, but the concept of the One Being as the Sovereign Integral consciousness is the basis of spiritual activism because it is through the expression of this consciousness—this specific level of consciousness—that we gain a familiarity with the quantum level of our existence as a collective, potent entity that cannot be imprisoned, marginalized, or influenced by the mind."

(EVT-3-Spititual Activism-4)

as we have discuss using the quotes the SI is re-established by the merging/integrating/infusing body with soul ... as a "collective (all six "systems" merged into one) potent Being", via the transformation ... and only when living with this identity in this existence ... are we able to reveal a genuine and authentic expression of that "specific state of consciousness" - due to our familiarity with this quantum level of our existence - as one, that has activated their spiritual self ... and this is what defines our "true identity" which the fragmentation of our consciousness caused us to forget, until the WMs reminded us... and why they are showing us how to get "back to our roots" now by sharing "personal wisdom"

At your root, you are not an immortal psychic impression, or mental echo, but rather, you are the faultless triune of First Source, Source Intelligence and the sovereign entity,
http://www.wingmakers.com/philosophy3.html

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only feeling could find "Intelligence of the Heart" , not the words ,judge and logic mind .we only could help other tone with vibration of equality .your vibration behind your words.


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So refreshingly simple as it reaches the core...Thanks :D


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"First Source is all of us. It is the Collective Us. It is not a God living in some distant pocket of the universe. First Source is the Human Collective unencumbered with the HMS. First Source divided itself into individualized expressions – us. In the beginning, we inhabited dimensions that were not material, but existed at quantum levels of time and space.

However, as the dimensions grew in density through the expansion of creation (our creation), we, as individualized, interdimensional beings, were seduced to enter the human body. This seduction was a co-conspiracy of forces led by Anu, the King of the Anunnaki, who required enslaved workers to mine the physical gold that was present on Earth in abundance. Those beings we now consider the Atlanteans, were interdimensional living upon Earth, and Anu, with great cunning, convinced them to embody in human instruments.

This embodiment was a grand experiment in human engineering, and the Human Mind System (HMS) was at the core of this project. Anu realized that the only way to enslave the Atlanteans was to sheath them in a mind system that would reduce their capacity to express their true nature, and instead, express the programs embedded within the HMS. These programs were the creation of Anu and his scientists.

God-Spirit-Soul Complex (GSSC) – This is the central element of the HMS that anchors separation. The individualized human being, free of the HMS, is called the Sovereign Integral in the WingMakers mythology. This is the true identity of each and every human being. In this model of the Sovereign Integral, we are Gods of our local multiverse, and collectively, we are First Source in the multiverse."

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 Post subject: Re: Emanate
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didn't I just post that? .... guess you must have IGNOREd it eh seed? or does it have more meaning when YOU post it?

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When we divide our Self with judgments, comparisons, criticisms we are only choosing to support the dishonesty and separation of the programs of the HMS.....What we truly are is not confined or limited by these programs and their projections/expressions of separation....that is the message. The SI consciousness is being suppressed, but the 'message' causes the sleeper to wake from the 'enchantment' of the world....To leave the prison forever we must fully support the truth of our unity. We must realize the truth of our FS equality....it is the way to freedom for all of us.

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we can not "leave" the prison, the entire Universe is imprisoned ... but we can view it objectively from the SIP ... and become aware of the "walls" so we don't have to smash into them all the time, and can remove the ones in our "local Universe" ... the process is done one person at a time, one brick at a time, independently of others, their schedules or life-styles, keeping in mind that the system/GM won't be significantly altered until all the walls are removed. No one is free until everyone in this Universe is free.

While it is true we can assist other so that they can recognize "walls" and in some cases we can even help them dismantle them -especially the ones we share - each individual is responsible for removing their own walls. From a distance, this may appear to be a group project, as we move from our own local universe, sharing our knowledge into extended families, neighborhoods, communities, cities, counties, states, and nationally until the effort becomes global ... it is accomplished from the inside out... and initiated in the hearts of individuals as a sincere desire for equality, honesty and unity that can not be legislated or forced upon anyone unwilling to co-operate.

Even with the assistance of the WN to help us navigate ... we are surrounded by the walls others have built and hide behind . Our view subsequently is blocked and we are limited by the free will of others to hide or to fortify and defend their "space" and BS. There will be no major changes until the consensus reality is aware and collectively working towards this goal, even though it is the innate desire of each SECU, unless it is acted upon, it will remain nothing more than a dream. The individual can extend their personal property line to encompass as far as the eye can see (and beyond) but the Governments still have the right to legslate what they do on it - even within their own homes. If the nation you live in decides to go to war, you by default, are drug right into it and will be responsible for supporting it whether you believe in it or not. If it becomes a "world war" there is no place that one can hide... the fall out and blow back will directly effect your "local universe" even if you have your own fortifications... you are subjected to the will of the many.

so, really, the only thing we can do, is brighten the path by unveiling our own light ... that collectively will light up the world... and remains the individuals' personal responsibility.

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"There are a handful of humans, who have removed the HMS and its assorted systems of separation and broken out of the prison, but these are an infinitesimally small percentage, and generally their writings, stories, techniques are received as “crazy talk” by their fellow inmates. And even if a handful of humans escape the prison, the prison sends its guards to re-capture them or discredit them in such a way as to render their deeds as “supernatural” or, worse yet, demonic.

The real problem in this story is that the humans within the prison do not see the prison as a prison or the guards as guards. They are oblivious to their imprisonment. Thus, they are not trying to escape from the prison; rather, if they are seeking to escape from anything, it is from boredom, anxiety, poverty, pain, bad relationships, illness, depression, and hopelessness. The suppression of their identity as a Sovereign Integral that lives in eternal and unconditional oneness, equality, and truthfulness is not even a consideration in their search.

Earth, consisting of the animal, plant, and mineral kingdoms as well as the elements of air, water, and fire, combined with Nature as defined by the cosmos, is the “Queen” on the chessboard that First Source can use. These are strategic instruments through which specific walls of the prison will be destroyed and individuals who are properly prepared can reclaim their identities as Sovereign Integrals and establish a new transparency and expansion within their wholeness.

Now, just because some walls of the prison will be taken down, does not mean that everyone will run out and embody their new freedoms. The prison is constructed of many walls, and when one wall falls down, there is the initial rush of relative freedom, but there remains another wall and another wall after that. The prison is a labyrinth and until the individual is not relying on pictures, images, sounds, words, feelings, and thoughts to interpret their world, they remain inside a wall of the prison I have previously described as the suppression framework of the Sovereign Integral.

Many will not feel comfortable with the spatial qualities and long horizons of this new era. They will resist the transparency and expansion because they have come to identify so strongly with their HMS that anything that tears at that identity, threatens what they perceive as their hold on existence.

Others, who are prepared, will easily embody this new era and transition into it like a baby eagle taking its first flight – a little awkward at first, but quickly mastering the required skills. While Earth and Universe Nature play key roles in the liberation maneuver, the preparation of the individual is their own responsibility. It is a balanced equation: Earth/Nature + Individual Preparation = Sovereign Integral Realization.

The First Point of process is the key factor of preparation. If your First Point for the reclamation of the Sovereign Integral state of consciousness is anything less than unconditional oneness, equality and truthfulness in the expression of every moment, then you will hit many walls within the prison, and each time you do, you will be required to start over. Thus, the initial point of self-realization must be aligned to the realization itself. This is due to the mathematical equations that guide the process."


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"There are a handful of humans, who have removed the HMS and its assorted systems of separation and broken out of the prison, but these are an infinitesimally small percentage" and I can assure you, that if you are living here, now, you haven't done that ... not even the Atlantians who avoided the HMS originally are free from its influence or the Prison.

The spiritual and religious leaders are equally caught up in the prison, occupying the more righteous sections, but still within the same prison. [color=#0000FF]The interdimensional beings like ascended masters and angels are also imprisoned though their freedoms seem near-infinite when compared to the human inmates. [/color](just above what you quoted)

The WingMakers mythology is a bridge from the Sovereign Integral to the Human Mind System, and it is designed to awaken this interest by releasing the masks of the HMS in favor of the identity of the Sovereign Integral. It is a preparation process that is different for every individual, but every individual in the human instrument is imprisoned within the HMS to varying degrees.

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When I speak of those who are lost in the prison without knowing it, I am not referring only to the downtrodden – those starving in refugee camps, those with insurmountable health dilemmas or those in abusive relationships (to name a few). No, I am referring to virtually all of humanity incarnated on Earth and those who have moved on to the astral or mental planes and yet remain in the prison. If you are unrealized of Self as the Sovereign Integral, you are somewhere within the prison,
A13 PCI


Answer 17 from James "I am one of those who has been exposed to life outside the prison, and I have returned not with descriptions of the “other side” but with encoded works, techniques, and behavioral systems that can help people form alignments with their preternatural Self, and move into the new era of transparency and expansion with greater eas

while the Wingmakers avoided the HMS (and a free from IT) ... they never the less are also within the prison that encompasses the entire Universe...

However, not every Atlantean was captured and subjected to the process of human enslavement, there were some, who predicted the outcome of the human project that Anu was executing and they fled within a dimensional “pocket” upon Earth, deep within what is now called the Atlantic ocean. A 25 PCI

so being "free" from the HMS is not a "get out of jail" card ... and the SIP only allows us to percieve reality from a perspective outside of the prison ... but it doesn't remove us from it ... the only way we will be "free" is if we take down all of the walls.

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"The First Point of process is the key factor of preparation. If your First Point for the reclamation of the Sovereign Integral state of consciousness is anything less than unconditional oneness, equality and truthfulness in the expression of every moment, then you will hit many walls within the prison, and each time you do, you will be required to start over. Thus, the initial point of self-realization must be aligned to the realization itself. This is due to the mathematical equations that guide the process."


"Those who have lifted their consciousness and deepened their perceptions to the point where they can sense the Sovereign Integral and experience it – no matter how fleetingly – they are the ones who must express this new state in truthfulness and directness. It is the time of the Nunti-Sunya, which is the messenger of stillness or emptiness. This is the ancient, encoded term for the End of Imprisonment. The “emptiness” is the quantum presence or state in which the Sovereign Integral exists.

As I mentioned in a previous answer, Nibiru is no longer a threat to Earth. Our threat is the Human Mind System and its self-perpetuating nature."

(Project Camelot-James-The Sovereign Integral)


I'm focused on the First Point of process....that's all.

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yes, exactaly:


"Those who have lifted their consciousness and deepened their perceptions to the point where they can sense the Sovereign Integral and experience it – no matter how fleetingly – they are the ones who must express this new state in truthfulness and directness.

and due to the fact that you refuse to state that you HAVE experienced the transformation ... I must assume you haven't ... you can quote the materials till the cows come home, seed, but until you actually experience the transformation, you have no way to express it ... and your understanding is just the way you decieve yourself, and hope (because you believe it so strongly) that it will deceive others ... into believeing you have transformed from a fragmented state into wholeness.

Understanding is the aspect of heart intelligence that recognizes this dissociation
from the love frequency is a necessary design component of the larger blueprint
that is occurring on the planet. In other words, it is not that humanity has fallen from
grace or is tilted irrevocably toward sin. Rather, we have simply accepted the
picture of reality that is dominant, and its dominance is not by accident but by the
designs of First Source

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Yes you assume a great deal.

Judgements can't represent the truth of our unity. Our true wisdom will not divide us.


The realization of FS equality is the transformational experience the WM speak of.....And yes, I have experienced this...I have not declared myself a Sovereign Integral as some have because i understand it to be a consciousness that we realize through direct experience and not something that we can achieve, possess or contain individually.


Transformation is simply the recognition that there are accelerated pathways that bypass the hierarchy leading to sovereign mastership rather than interdependent saviorship, and that these new pathways can be accessed through direct experience of the equality tone-vibration that is present within all entities.

It is a vibration that holds together the three principles of the transformational experience: Universe relationship through gratitude, observance of Source in all things, and the nurturance of life. The application of these life-principles in a specific equation of conduct de-couples an entity from the controlling elements of the hierarchy. (Chamber Philosophy-2)

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an assumption is not a judgment seed, it caries no "verdict" and I was forced to make the assumption when you ignored my direct questions ... so don't judge me :lol:

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Your assumption seems to be hidden judgment, it caries "verdict"
and you wanted to make the judgment (ping pong/reflect your frustration to others)
when your ego felt ignored (not glorified enough)...

so you are mirrored by your own judgement
it is the law of action/reaction

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However, it is perceived, has little to do with how it was intended
somewhere between transmission and reception the message is distorted
then it has to go through all the self imposed veils and around all the baggage
and then sifted through the slotted sieves until it is crammed into a place where it doesn't belong, but what the mind associates with an appropriate response is issued - automatically

so much simpler, to let it flow directly to the heart, which enhances it with the fragrance of Spring, and sends it on its way like sparkles from a sunlit mountain stream... without "thought" nor burdensome emotions ... finding its way back without weighty programs, unevaluated and appreciated for what it is in simplicity.

appreciation:

At a more practical level, appreciation expresses itself in the small gestures of
gratitude that support relationship loyalty and bonding. The deeper levels of
appreciation make the relatively surface level expressions genuine because they
stem from the frequencies of soul instead of the motives of the ego or mind.
Art of the Genuine, A Spiritual Imperative

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"The “higher knowledge” has never been protected, nor has it required protection. As I said, humanity simply learned in the wrong direction. It is not as if the higher knowledge is a nuclear bomb, or that it could be used by someone to manipulate others, destroy someone, or create chaos from order. The higher knowledge cannot be subverted, modified, or otherwise recombined to be anything but beneficent and supportive.

Imagine that you had a secret code, and every time this code was spoken, love filled the world. If you shared this code with others, and they spoke it, more love entered the world, and this grew and expanded until humanity began to see itself as One Being connected in the heart. All of the practices, rituals, culture, and pomp and circumstance that divide us would dissolve amid this rising tide of love. So, this code would be considered by many as harmful to their old ways of doing business. They would try to make it illegal to speak this code and share it. They would try to put the genie back into its bottle. This would be protecting the higher knowledge.

However, as you know, there is no secret code or formula. What the elite have done is turned our attention in the wrong direction, and they have left the higher knowledge untouched, unprotected and languishing in disuse. They model a different behavioral intelligence—one that is fueled by the lower mind and ego-personality.

Yes, there is secret knowledge that is protected, but none of it has anything to do with how to raise the frequency of love within the human instrument so that the individual can find, share, and become a viral entity of the vibration of equality. And this, so far as I know, is the only higher knowledge worthy of contemplation and practice at this time in humanity’s evolution."

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yep, that is what happens when we get distracted and don't stay focused on the goal... :wink:

PS, what has this got to do with "emanate" ? or are we just in the habit of rambling :roll:

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The realization of FS equality is the transformational experience the WM speak of.....And yes, I have experienced this...I have not declared myself a Sovereign Integral as some have because i understand it to be a consciousness that we realize through direct experience and not something that we can achieve, possess or contain individually. seed


The SI is always present within us and is what makes life possible for us to experience in these HIs. Perhaps, it is what initially starts the heart beating in the child in the womb before any brain development takes place. Contemplate how awesome that is. We are Sovereign Integrals for if we weren't you would not be here now in confusion about it. It is individual as much as it is collective. You equate the individual with the ego as if both are dirty words, thus your lack of clarity about this and confusion. It hasn't occurred to you yet that the individuation process or individuated consciousness is the step in evolution we are completing not annihilating or destroying....or ignoring and denying. And with its completion we take it back to the collective where we can experience both like our future selves who come back here to tell us these things. :wink:

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reject nothing .... :wink:

There are, below the surface of your particle existence, energies that connect you to all formats of existence. You are a vast collection of these energies, but they cannot flow through your human instrument as an orchestrated energy until the particles of your existence are aligned and flowing in the direction of unity and wholeness.

An Excerpt from Particle Alignment, Decoded from Chamber 10
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Belief systems are "birthing rooms" ... the origins of our activism ... when they are out of alignment ... nothing works according to the Blueprint.

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Shay...okay.

.....So we've developed unique perspectives based on our individualized personality programs and experience of living in the world.....unique perspectives.

What i'm understanding is that we only have One identity...and many 'unique' perspectives. I agree that the individual perspective is important, and will continue to be important....unique perspectives of FS, not separate identities. So my understand of Self is the collective consciousness of FS. No I don't identify much with my individual perspective, and my attachment to personalities, projections and attachments to a separated-self continue to dissolve.

The HMS is the prison of limitation, we were made to believe we were separated from FS, and that we exist as separate from FS....and that this separation is not only for our own good but that we should actually develop it. This belief in separation is the lie that keeps us striving and searching for what we already are....It keeps us busy pursuing our unity, and striving to become whole again. I'm not saying that a belief in a separate self is wrong, i just don't see it as supporting the truth of what we are. So...no, i'm not busy developing, nurturing or being true to that belief. I'm dissolving and dismantling whatever forms i have may have built in ignorance of SR.


"I live in the corridors of a deeper unity where identity is One and personality is many." (EVT-3)


“The bottom line is that all of this empire of deception, what I have been referring to as a prison, had to be created in order to enslave humans without them knowing they were enslaved. And all of the work that has been done since Anu’s first enslavement of humanity has been deception because humans would never have gone along without it being this way, and Anu and the Elite knew this as a certainty. First Source is re-activating itself within the human family, you can have the condition of forgetfulness, but it is not forgetting. You have not forgotten.” (James-Interview-PC)

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seed said "we were made to believe we were separated from FS, and that we exist as separate from FS....and that this separation is not only for our own good but that we should actually develop it. This belief in separation is the lie that keeps us striving and searching for what we already are....It keeps us busy pursuing our unity, and striving to become whole again. I'm not saying that a belief in a separate self is wrong, i just don't see it as supporting the truth of what we are. So...no, i'm not busy developing, nurturing or being true to that belief. I'm dissolving and dismantling whatever forms i have may have built in ignorance of SR. "

and I assume you are being honest and actually believe that.... but we weren' "made" to believe we were separated , because that was a part of the Plan of FS for this species' progression. ... we fragmented our own consciousness intentionally- of our own free will so that we would believe we were separated . Now we have the opportunity to restore our wholeness, that is what the WMMs offer each of us... at some point in our evolution, we are given this choice... to either continue in our fragmented state of consciousness, or to transform ... nothing more nothing less. Those who choose to transform, can use the WMMs to do that, and no doubt many have self-created their wholeness... and are preparing themselves for the Sovereign Integral state of consciousness, that the next evolutionary shift will make available.

...the entity purposely fragments its consciousness in order to experience separation from wholeness.

In this state of separation, the entity has handicapped itself for the purpose of new experience and a deeper understanding of the Primal Blueprint or grand vision of First Source. Through this deeper understanding, the entity can, through the human instrument, transform the three-dimensional context into a self-aware, integrated component of the Universe of Wholeness. This magnificent and purposeful endeavor produces the urge within the human instrument to seek out its wholeness and re-experience its divine connection to First Source.

This is the experiment of transformation verses evolution

This transformation of the entity is the pathway into wholeness and the recognition that the entity model of expression is a composite of forms and the formless that is unified in one energy, one consciousness. When the fragments are aligned and inter-connected, the entity becomes the instrument that facilitates Source Reality expansion
2nd Philo

why do you resist this awareness when nothing prevents you from experiencing it but your belief that you are already whole, when the materials state that you aren't until you transform ? If you believe the WMMs then you will use them to transform, if you don't then why are you here?

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SD, I'm well aware of your personal beliefs about the materials and how you've decided your insights into what they're saying is the only possible way to understand them. Still it's really only your own understanding that you're constantly defending and trying to enforce here. Arrogantly you call this obvious attempt to dominate the forum "politeness" "valor and "compassion." It would be more respectful to allow anyone who comes here an opportunity to share what they have experienced from contact with the WM materials without your obsessive need to criticize and discount every post that seems to not adhere to your own perspective. It would be more respectful if you would allow unique perspective to be explored and expressed here and not assume you have the right to mistreat anyone who doesn't kowtow to your tactics.

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I love the way that you call direct quotes, "my perspective" ... I am willing to discuss how they could be perceived another way, but no one wants (or dares) to discuss it... maybe because they are so plain and simple, that there isn't any other way they can be perceived... I mean, what is it about what I quoted that could possibly be misunderstood... when it says "the entity purposely fragments its consciousness in order to experience separation from wholeness." The fact that you flat refuse to believe that is obvious...if that isn't resisting awareness WTF is?

I am not "mistreating" anyone, if they are disrespecting the intent of this forum... that to me is injustice and an opportunity to practice Valor... your tactic of attacking me because you don't like or believe what the WMMs are saying, is what is old... as old as time, when people killed the messenger because they didn't like the message... I didn't write this stuff, but I KNOW from experience what the LTO's message is... and if that is the only fault you can find in me, then I am grateful for the association.

If you don't appreciate the materials, why did you join a forum that is intent on discussing them?

Appreciation: At the subtle levels, this virtue is focused on a specific awareness that
First Source surrounds our fellow beings as a field of consciousness and that this
consciousness unifies us. If we are unified, it follows that we operate as a collective
consciousness at some deeper level, and in this place, we share a common purpose
that is richly textured, supremely vital, and yet mysterious, dynamic and uncertain.
This awareness, or even belief, shifts our focus from the small details of our personal
life to the vision of our purpose as a species.
Art of the Genuine - A Spiritual Imperative


I am not interested in personal BS ... I am looking for the only thing we have in common, or I wish we had in common, for us stay focused on, and hope will unify us. :D

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seed why do you equate the individual with a prison? Do you not believe we have a choice in how we preceive these things or is it so unbearable to you that you can see no other way? Whatever turns your crank to motivate you beyond the inertia of it all. Why does simplicity escape you? In it lyes your salvation and ability to go beyond this without fear, and the beauty of the individual which is you is key.

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There we have it. The beauty of the individual. That's what everybody thinks is most important, that explains the nature of a thousand magazines, so you see how it becomes ugly. They're interested in what they radiate for others not emanate oneself in actual reality. Even if one is not interested in others, the same projection is nurtured as a complete illusion. When what you emanate is inspired of reality, everyone will find you so beautiful; though they may still turn their back. But if you think that this is important, then you are being vain and it is not nice.

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K: That's right. So I can listen to a statement and see the truth in the statement or the falseness in the statement, not through comparison but in the very statement that you are making. That is, I listen to the statement: "Beauty can never exist without passion and passion comes from the understanding of sorrow." I listen to that statement. I don't abstract an idea from it or make an idea from it. I just listen. What takes place? You may be telling the truth or you may be making a false statement. I don't know because I am not going to compare.

Anderson: No, you are going to see.

K: I just listen. Which means I am giving my total attention -- just listen to this sir, you will see what is going to happen. I give my total attention to what you are saying. -- Then it doesn't matter what you say or don't say!

(A wholly different way of living, Krishnamurti & Anderson)

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These four states of the Spiritual Center are:
1. Facilitation
2. Observance
3. Guidance
4. Co-Creation

Accessing these states of being is a matter of consolidating your energies and being in the present. Experiencing these states helps to keep you in the present, and the more one’s life is lived in the moment, the easier it is to be in facilitation, guidance, observance, and co-creation, and therefore to express out of wholeness instead of separation; to live from coherence (inside-out emanation) rather than reflecting decoherence (outside-in radiation).

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"In the new paradigm there is only One Entity, sensing, navigating and finding its resonance within its local universe, and using that resonance to become aware of their Spiritual Center. This Spiritual Center is a “note” (or node) of the Symphony (or network) of Source. The One Entity is therefore a fusion of the Individual, the local universe, the Spiritual Center, and Source."

Evt. 3 Temple of Spiritual Activism pg. 18



"Emanation is the goal of the spiritual activist. It is the quiet, unobtrusive frequency of equality and oneness. It is the tone of equality that flows from this Spiritual Center and nothing else is required. There is no struggle or effort to amp it up, or send it this way or that. It is transmitted without effort and there is no time-switch or channel through which it flows. It permeates the human instrument as a vibratory frequency and is released into the local universe like a perfume’s scent that flows in every direction, taken up by the wind and circulated throughout the Universe."

Evt 3 pg. 17




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